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Old 08-16-2009, 12:43 PM   #1
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Setting up a ATI Radeon HD 3450


Hello,

I have recently installed a ATI Radeon HD 3450 video card into a computer running Fedora 10. X refuses to work with it, only giving me a command line console. I have installed both the "radeonhd" and "fglrx" drivers, and tried my best to configure them from "xorg.conf", but both drivers only give me an unresponsive black screen. When I try using "vesa", I got an unresponsive mess of colours.

Later I tried booting this system up with Knoppix (from which I am currently posting), and it gives me a working "vesa" display. Is there anyway I can use the working Knoppix display configuration on Fedora? I have already posted on the FedoraForum but have have not had an replies.

Thanks in advanced to anyone who may give me help.
 
Old 08-16-2009, 03:01 PM   #2
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What you need to know is that fglrx overwrites some Mesa libs and maybe opengl also and moving from one to the other is not easy.

Fedora might have a doc on their site. Otherwise, decide on one. If radeonhd, get the latest (1.2.5) and reinstall with options like
rpm --nodb --force --middle-finger :-P.

then fix your xorg.conf, and make sure X is reading the one you are fixing! If X tries to booit and fails, use
startx >errorfile 2>&1 and you can read all the stuff that rolls up the screen
 
Old 08-16-2009, 05:18 PM   #3
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An interesting suggestion, although it is not entirely helpful unfortunately. I did try the drivers one at a time, spending hours with each trying to get them working separately (first radeonhd, then fglrx). So I doubt it is a problem with the drivers interfering with each other. If that was the case in theory the Fedora 10 live cd should work fine since it only has the radeonhd driver. It doesn't.

I have already looked at the logs being generated by X when it tries with both radeonhd, flgrx, and vesa, and the only consensus I have is it often complains about video modes not working with my display. I noticed the Knoppix xorg.conf has various display modes specified. Unfortunately I tried these with Fedora with no luck.

Still, thank you for the suggestion. Especially since your the first person on any forum to respond to my posts.
 
Old 08-16-2009, 07:21 PM   #4
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This works sometimes. At the command line as root type

Xorg -configure

or maybe,

X -configure

This will generate a file called xorg.conf.new that may be helpfull.
 
Old 08-17-2009, 03:13 AM   #5
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Often complaints about the display are down to these 2 settings
HorizSync 31.5-55
VertRefresh 50-80

I've given safe values for _nearly_ any monitor these days. Try that as X takes very stupid defaults if they're not specified.
 
Old 08-19-2009, 06:43 PM   #6
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Thanks everyone for their help, I have gotten "radeonhd" working! I upgraded my X sever to "xorg-x11-server-Xorg-1.5.3-17" and reinstalled the driver and now it works. Everything seems functional except for 3D acceleration, which is not currently supported on R600 cards if you use the "radeonhd" driver. It does work with Catalyst apparently, but I am not going to experiment with that until 9.8 is available from RPM Fusion. Ah well, I think I can content myself with classic Doom and Quake II (software render) for a while, and maybe Shogo as well. And now I can code again!

Even though none of the suggestions actually helped solve the problem, I appreciate the suggestions. Thank you.
 
Old 08-25-2009, 12:20 AM   #7
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Something I thought I should mention, to get the radeonhd driver working I needed to add "Option "HPD" "off"" to the "Device" section of my xorg.conf file, as I elaborated in my original FedoraForum post:
http://forums.fedoraforum.org/showthread.php?p=1254320

Still no Catalyst 9.8 RPM available yet. I am almost tempted to install it manually using ATI's installer, but that means no turning back to the free software drivers after installation. I can wait.
 
Old 09-02-2009, 02:09 AM   #8
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After waiting over a week for the Catalyst drivers to appear in the RPM Fusion repository, I tried my luck installing them. While is was able to get a functional display with them, it was more clunky than the "radeonhd" one and OpenGL still refused to work, giving me an error:
Code:
[hamish@localhost ~]$ fglrxinfo
X Error of failed request:  BadRequest (invalid request code or no such operation)
  Major opcode of failed request:  143 (GLX)
  Minor opcode of failed request:  19 (X_GLXQueryServerString)
  Serial number of failed request:  14
  Current serial number in output stream:  14
[hamish@localhost ~]$
I figured I had enough of all this, so I decided to try a different approach. I backed up my files and tried my luck with a fresh install of Fedora 11. By default this used the plain "radeon" driver, and it has working 3D acceleration using MESA, well, to an extent. It runs extremely slow, making almost any 3D game unplayable. I decided to try my luck with Catalyst again, but it gave me the same error so reverted back to my old set-up with the "radeon" driver.

I would like to either find out why Catalyst refuse to work on my computer or why MESA runs so intolerably slow. I have already tried asking this on the FedoraForum with no replies. Any help would be most appreciated.
 
Old 09-02-2009, 10:27 AM   #9
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I was looking through my /var/log/Xorg.0.log and I noticed the following lines in various parts of the log:

Code:
(--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon HD 3450" (ChipID = 0x95c6)
(WW) RADEON(0): R600 support is mostly incomplete and very experimental

(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
[dri] Disabling DRI.

(WW) RADEON(0): Direct rendering disabled
(EE) RADEON(0): Acceleration initialization failed
(II) RADEON(0): Acceleration disabled
The odd thing is, if Acceleration is disabled, why am I getting anything at all in the first place?

Edit: Maybe this can answer my prevous question...
Code:
[hamish@Griffindor ~]$ glxinfo|grep render
direct rendering: Yes
OpenGL renderer string: Software Rasterizer
[hamish@Griffindor ~]$

Last edited by Chargh; 09-02-2009 at 10:54 AM. Reason: New Data
 
Old 09-03-2009, 03:55 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Chargh View Post
I was looking through my /var/log/Xorg.0.log and I noticed the following lines in various parts of the log:

[CODE](--) RADEON(0): Chipset: "ATI Radeon HD 3450" (ChipID = 0x95c6)
(WW) RADEON(0): R600 support is mostly incomplete and very experimental

(EE) RADEON(0): [dri] RADEONDRIGetVersion failed to open the DRM
[dri] Disabling DRI.
I have an R600 card, and get none of that crap.
You need to update. Latest radeonhd is 1.2.5 I also feel you shoould uninstall fglrx if you can't make it work, and then we will make xorg.conf work. When you do, reinstall mesa and opengl
 
Old 09-04-2009, 02:04 PM   #11
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I have an R600 card, and get none of that crap.
You need to update. Latest radeonhd is 1.2.5 I also feel you shoould uninstall fglrx if you can't make it work, and then we will make xorg.conf work. When you do, reinstall mesa and opengl
I have already uninstalled Catalyst and have already reinstalled Mesa, so that is not the problem. And as far as I am aware "radeonhd" is yet to support 3D acceleration for R600/R700 cards.The "radeon" driver is what gives me my half-functional OpenGL and the data I have mentioned in my last post. If this helps at all, here are my driver versions:

Code:
[hamish@Griffindor ~]$ yum info xorg-x11-drv-ati
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Installed Packages
Name       : xorg-x11-drv-ati
Arch       : i586
Version    : 6.12.2
Release    : 14.fc11
Size       : 781 k
Repo       : installed
From repo  : fedora
Summary    : Xorg X11 ati video driver
URL        : http://www.x.org
License    : MIT
Description: X.Org X11 ati video driver.

[hamish@Griffindor ~]$ yum info xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd
Loaded plugins: refresh-packagekit
Installed Packages
Name       : xorg-x11-drv-radeonhd
Arch       : i586
Version    : 1.2.5
Release    : 2.10.20090714git.fc11
Size       : 949 k
Repo       : installed
From repo  : updates
Summary    : Xorg X11 radeonhd driver for AMD GPG r5xx/r6xx Chipsets
URL        : http://www.x.org/
License    : MIT
Description: X.org X11 radeonhd driver for AMD GPG r5xx/r6xx Chipsets.
           : 
           : This package is a snapshot of a work in progress. You may
           : experience regressions, bugs, errors, broken displays, and other
           : undesirable phenomena.
           : 
           : radeonhd mailing list: http://lists.opensuse.org/radeonhd/
           : 
           : Built from git commit: bc42c63d0cf7756a9d31c16d68d1c33a9e225b83

[hamish@Griffindor ~]$
 
Old 09-11-2009, 03:16 PM   #12
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Looks like good news...
http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?pag...item&px=NzUxNg

If I read what I am seeing correctly, Fedora 12 should not give me any problems with my card.
 
  


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