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Old 01-02-2006, 02:37 AM   #1
satimis
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Seeking recommendation


Hi folks,

I'm preapared to build a 64bit AMD box for TEST purpose NOT for producion. I haven't had a budget in mind but prefer to be economical as possible. My preliminary setup as follows;

CPU 64 bit AMD Athlon 3000+/3200+ 939 socket
RAM 1G DDR400/500
OS Linux/Unix

please recommend;
Motherboard - with build-in sound card and "VGA card", if possible to save the cost of a VGA card
VGA - card with DVI input
SATA 80G 7,200rpm HD, 8MD cache memmory

I will retain the old CDWriter 12x/8x/32x

Any suggestion would be appreciated. TIA

BR and Happy New Year
satimis
 
Old 01-02-2006, 02:44 AM   #2
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Pretty hard to get a socket 939 with vga or onboard video... Mostly PCIE...

nforce 4 chipset should be good.

AMD uses DDR400
 
Old 01-04-2006, 12:11 PM   #3
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good mobo

Hello, Maximum PC recently published an article called $300 budget pc or something like that. They used a MSI motherboard and Ubuntu and were very pleased with the results. I think they used the older 64 bit AMD proc but that might give you a good place to start.
 
Old 01-04-2006, 01:08 PM   #4
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I built a cheap PC for someone which turned out to be a great system, and 64 bit, all for under 400 bucks, INCLUDING windows. I would have used it, especially as a test box, but personally I can only not recommend it because i can't live without an offboard video card and more ram. It was an Intel, but here is the direct AMD equivilent, all with wonderful high quality parts from good brandsrealize going 939 makes both the processor and board go up in price, with emphasis on processor.)

Gigabyte Socket 939 board with onboard video(nvida 6100), supports 4 Gig of ram, 4 SATA II ports, etc:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Item=N82E16813
128315
74.99

AMD 64 Venice 3200+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103535
165.00

80Gig SATA 2 Drive @ 3M burst, Barracuda:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16822148107
66.50

Corsair 2x512 Dual Channel kit, PC3200:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145440
75.50
You could also go High End with Corsair XMS, PC3200, also 1 gig 2x512 dual channel: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820145450
100

If you need no other drives, you are set right there. Assuming you choose XMS, that is:
165+66.50+74.99+100=496.49
And that gets you XMS ram with a SATA 2 HD, a motherboard with onboard 6100 quality video and 5.1 surround, dual channel support etc. Hope that is the kind of thing you were looking for.

If you really want to push lower end stuff(which I do not recommend)you can probably drop 100 or 125 off getting normal Corsair, a SATA I drive, and a low quality motherboard.
 
Old 01-04-2006, 04:23 PM   #5
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Cool

Quote:
Originally Posted by satimis
Hi folks,

I'm preapared to build a 64bit AMD box for TEST purpose NOT for producion. I haven't had a budget in mind but prefer to be economical as possible. My preliminary setup as follows;

CPU 64 bit AMD Athlon 3000+/3200+ 939 socket
RAM 1G DDR400/500
OS Linux/Unix

please recommend;
Motherboard - with build-in sound card and "VGA card", if possible to save the cost of a VGA card
VGA - card with DVI input
SATA 80G 7,200rpm HD, 8MD cache memmory

I will retain the old CDWriter 12x/8x/32x

Any suggestion would be appreciated. TIA

BR and Happy New Year
satimis
Hi!

I've had some problems with my Epox NPAJ socket 939 motherboard with
built-in audio.
I'm not sure if it is the nVidia nForce4 chipset or the built-in audio
but I didn't get Ubuntu or Fedora Core4 installed because my computer
jammed.

AMD Athlon 64 3200+, 1Gb of RAM, 2 SATA hard drives, ATI RADEON X600 video.

Now I'm running Slackware 10.2 on it and it works fine...

Last edited by TexLinux; 01-04-2006 at 04:26 PM.
 
Old 01-04-2006, 10:00 PM   #6
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Quote:
Originally Posted by satimis
Hi folks,

I'm preapared to build a 64bit AMD box for TEST purpose NOT for producion. I haven't had a budget in mind but prefer to be economical as possible. My preliminary setup as follows;

CPU 64 bit AMD Athlon 3000+/3200+ 939 socket
RAM 1G DDR400/500
OS Linux/Unix
Hi,

The system I have is basically what you describe. I have a Gigabyte K8NSC-939 (version F7 BIOS), an AMD64 3200+, 1 Gb (2 DIMMS) of DDR400 memory, nForce FX5500 AGP video card, and multiple UDMA 100 and UDMA 133 drives. I'm currently running Suse 10.0 32 bit on the primary boot drive.

When I first got the K8NSC-939 board, I tried to use some PC2700 memory from the older Celeron board I had. Since they were mismatched. 1 DIMM was double side and the other was single sided. They wouldn't work in the Gigabyte board. So I had to use one DIMM or the other. After several attempts to load 64 bit Suse 10.0, I figured out I had to use the "noapic nolapic" to install the OS. Same thing with FC4. Except FC4 was a little easier to load. I wondered why I HAD to use the "noapic nolapic" options to load the 64 bit OS. 32 bit loaded without any problems. Come to find out, after installing some DDR400 (PC3200) memory. one HAS to use 2 DIMMS in this motherboard with a 64 bit OS. If not, the "noapic nolapic" options must be used in order for the OS to boot. Install or otherwise. I still don't know if this is normal for the 64 bit kernel or if it's a BIOS issue. Gigabyte sent me the latest version, F8D, BIOS but I haven't tried it. 64 bit is/was too much of a hassle with trying to get everything to run that I had running fine on 32 bit. So I went back to 32 bit and plan to stay there until more things work and work properly on 64 bit. Just my opinion on 64 bit. At least for the time being anyway.


Stan
 
Old 01-05-2006, 01:30 AM   #7
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Hi RedShirt,

Tks for your advice and URLs.

Quote:
Gigabyte Socket 939 board with onboard video(nvida 6100), supports 4 Gig of ram, 4 SATA II ports, etc:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Item=N82E16813
128315
74.99
This URL does not work.

Quote:
AMD 64 Venice 3200+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16819103535
165.00
Is there a big difference on performance between 3200+ and 3000+

Re: Dual-channel RAM.
How it is coded?
Whether "PC3200-1024 (2 X 512)  1024MB / DDR-RAM / PC3200"
means
"2 pcs DDR400 512MB Dual-channel Ram" ???

The mobo must support it indicating "Memory Support Dual-Ch DDR"


Quote:
If you need no other drives, you are set right there. Assuming you choose XMS, that is:
165+66.50+74.99+100=496.49
And that gets you XMS ram with a SATA 2 HD
Sorry, I don't catch. Pls explain in more detial. I'm going to connect one HD.

TIA

BR
satimis
 
Old 01-05-2006, 01:48 AM   #8
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"Is there a big difference on performance between 3200+ and 3000+"

Not enough to really notice in every day use... But might make a couple of fps difference in a game
 
Old 01-05-2006, 02:02 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by amosf
"Is there a big difference on performance between 3200+ and 3000+"

Not enough to really notice in every day use... But might make a couple of fps difference in a game
Noted with tks

satimis
 
Old 01-05-2006, 02:07 AM   #10
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Hi folks,

Tks for your valuable advice.

I heard many bad stories about 64bit mobo in the past. I'm going to build a 64bit AMD box for testing 64bit software. Therefore I'm very cautious on selecting mobo. Although the box is neither for game nor for graphic editing I need speed on software compilation. As onboard VGA eating CPU resource now I change my requirement abandoning it. On Newegg site I found following mobo which meet my requirement both on performance and budget;

Motherboard
===========
Asus A8N5X
Code:
nForce4 Ultra / ATX / SOCKET939
Chipset  nForce4 Ultra
Format  ATX
CPU Platform  SOCKET939
Video  Integrated
Audio  ALC850
Max. FSB  2000MHz
HDD Interface  UDMA+SATA
Memory Support  Dual-Ch DDR
No. of CPU Supported  1
No. of USB ports  8
No. of PCI Slots  3
No. of PCI Express  4
No. of ISA Slots  0
On-Board RAID  Yes
On-Board LAN  Yes
1394 Adapter  No
OR

Asus A8N-VM
Code:
nForce4 Ultra / microAT / SOCKET939
Chipset  nForce4 Ultra
Format  microAT
CPU Platform 	SOCKET939
Video 	Integrated
Audio 	AD1985
Max. FSB 	2000MHz
HDD Interface 	UDMA+SATA
Memory Support 	Dual-Ch DDR
No. of CPU Supported 	1
No. of USB ports 	8
No. of PCI Slots 	2
No. of PCI Express 	2
No. of ISA Slots 	0
On-Board RAID 	No
On-Board LAN 	No
1394 Adapter 	No
What is microAT format? The second mobo is a little bid lower in price.


Graphic Cards
=============
WINFAST PX6600 TD   GF 6600 / 128MB / DDR RAM
Chipset GF 6600 GT
Memory 128MB
Memory Type DDR3 RAM
Interface PCI-Express
TV Out Yes
No. of Output Single
DVI Yes


OR


Gigabyte 
GV-NX62TC128D   GF 6200 / 128MB / DDR RAM
Chipset GF 6200
Memory 128MB
Memory Type DDR RAM
Interface PCI-Express
TV Out Yes
No. of Output Single
DVI Yes

Also Gigabyte is lower in price.

Your comment and/or suggestion would be appreciated. TIA

B.R.
satimis
 
  


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