seeking 4x AGP video card for 3D desktop effects
Yea, I know that I'm running dino hardware, but it is what I already own -- motherboard has 4xAGP slot.
Q1. Which AGP card has the graphics horsepower to run 3D desktop effects **AND** has a driver that works? Q2. Where might one acquire said AGP card or two? Thanks, ~~~ 0;-D |
I would think most 8x AGP cards can run in a 4X slot.. taking backwards compatibility into consideration. the Slot keys for the card voltage would be more of aworry, and even that isn't usually an issue.
Nvidia http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...48&name=NVIDIA ATI http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...20549&name=ATI Wikipedia Quote:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...Keying.svg.png You can pretty safely ignore the PRO slots for most home systems. I think I've only ever seen ONE on all the machines I have ever worked on.. |
Linux vs. ( ATI -or- Nvidia )
A google search yields a plethora of ATI does not play well with Linux postings. However, it seems that most have a couple of years of dust gone by. There are also troubles over the use of ndiswrapper for the Nvidia cards.
Have these troubles died out or died down? What is the reality of vendor support for linux at the chipset level? There are third parties using one or other chipset. Which of these are more trouble than they are worth? Living with older hardware. Trying to keep from going mad. ... wait, I already talk to a box of sand... ~~~ 0;-D |
Ndiswrapper is for wireless network cards not video cards. I avoid ndiswrapper and purchase Wireless hardware that has native Linux drivers available.. no reason to use a shim if you purchase the correct hardware to begin with.
Personally I run all nvidia cards and I believe they work great in Linux. I run everything from TNT2, nvidia2go Geforce 2, Geforce 3, 4800SE, 5200, 5700 through Geforce 6800 which is the fastest card I could find for AGP. I currently have 8 systems with nVidia cards all of which work perfectly for me in Linux. ATI's drivers have improved a lot in the last couple years, ATI has released a lot of info for their cards so a full open source 3D driver will eventually show up. Their are a lot fo ATI Fans. The video card debate is sorta like the Ford vs. Chevy debate, you know ? Each have their fans. I have my preferences, and can only speak for what works for me, but I know there are tons of users out there running ATI in their Linux boxes without any issues. Now if you go off the reservation and start buying something other than nvidia, or ATI then you ar pretty much on your own. I have a couple systems with the integrated intel graphics chips in them and I'm not impressed at all.. They work well, but the performance rather bites. |
Nvidia Quadro FX 1000
I struggled for a year or more with ATI geforce and finally bailed and got one of these on ebay. It was a snap, I don't recall any problems and it does the 3d stuff perfectly. Dual head came up easy.
You can not use just any Quadro though. I have an older one at work and it is not fast enough for the 3d, very slow. |
There are hell lot of ATI cards that are supported in Linux with full 3D support
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seeking a knowledgeable recommendation
I know there are hundreds of cards.
I know that nVidia and ATI own the 80%. I know that Intel and others have the 20% I want to buy, plug, boot, use, forget the details. My mom-board says, "4x AGP". I'm not going to change the whole system. Can someone post a solid recommendation -- this means that you installed the card and are using the card without troubles -- for a "4x AGP" card that does pretty good 3D. Thanks to all who have taken time to comment. ~~~ 0;-D |
PNY Nvidia Quadro FX 1000 (128MB, AGP) on 8X is as close as I can come.
I have attached my hardware. You can look up the MB if you wish it is an 8X AGP. I got this card for about $40 including shipping on ebay. Don't let a bad fan discourage you it is easy to rig a new one. I would think it would be worth trying, you can always sell it again.
The integration wsa very good for FC8, and for an FC9 upgrade. The speed if very good, the effects are perfect, and very neat. I particularly like the way a maximize window, stretches and then springs free of the frame. 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