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10-20-2020, 10:52 AM
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Originally Posted by ondoho
I wouldn't rely on the "Linux ready" label - most hardware works with Linux whether it has that label or not, and the label is no guarantee, due to the nature of Linux. It's just fluff.
That said, if this NVIDIA card has been on the market for +1 year, all's good I'd say.
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Hi,
Your advice noted and thanks
Regards
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10-20-2020, 12:37 PM
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Originally Posted by morning-tea
Which slot shall I use for plugging the graphic card?
Its price is NOT expensive. Although I don't game it doesn't matter.
Thanks and regards
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As long as you plug it into the PCIe x16 slot it should be good to go. Just make sure you load the nvidia drivers so you can get the most out of the card. I am impressed because that card shows 2 HDMI and 2 DP outputs. It could support up to 4 monitors.
BTW, the specs for the expansion slots say that mobo only supoprts x16 mode with the 2nd and 3rd Gen Ryzen processors. You have not said what your CPU is, but that may limit the performance if you have an older CPU.
Last edited by computersavvy; 10-20-2020 at 12:46 PM.
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10-20-2020, 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by computersavvy
As long as you plug it into the PCIe x16 slot it should be good to go. Just make sure you load the nvidia drivers so you can get the most out of the card. I am impressed because that card shows 2 HDMI and 2 DP outputs. It could support up to 4 monitors.
BTW, the specs for the expansion slots say that mobo only supoprts x16 mode with the 2nd and 3rd Gen Ryzen processors. You have not said what your CPU is, but that may limit the performance if you have an older CPU.
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Hi computersavvy,
CPU - AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics
1 physical processor; 4 cores; 8 threads
RAM - 30791632 KiB
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10-20-2020, 07:38 PM
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That seems a 3rd Gen CPU so you should be good to go with the PCIe x16 slot.
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10-20-2020, 07:57 PM
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Originally Posted by computersavvy
That seems a 3rd Gen CPU so you should be good to go with the PCIe x16 slot.
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Your advice noted.
Thanks
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10-21-2020, 01:37 AM
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There is another option besides adding a graphics adapter you might wish to consider before making a purchase. How old is your X570-P? Does your power supply provide enough power reserve for everything you have in your PC now, plus a graphics card, plus anything else you might wish to add later? You might need a new one to handle a power hungry NVidia card. It could make better sense to trade motherboards than to buy a graphics adapter and a power supply when your existing CPU's APU can handle multiple outputs.
Instead, if your motherboard is within its free return period, return it and buy one that uses your present CPU and provides the ports you needs. I have four such, two Intel and two AMD, with four video outputs each (one even has an HDMI input), lighting up as many as three displays at once. The IGPs can handle the extra ouputs without need for more PS watts, or more heat generation, something to seriously consider if you live in a warm climate. Here are the specs from two of mine, both with all expansion slots empty:
Three+ years old:
Code:
# inxi -CS
System: Host: gb250 Kernel: 5.4.0-52-generic x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Trinity R14.1.0
Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS (Focal Fossa)
CPU: Info: Dual Core model: Intel Core i3-7100T bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 3072 KiB
Speed: 800 MHz min/max: 800/3400 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 800 2: 800 3: 800 4: 800
# inxi -Gay
Graphics:
Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 630 vendor: Gigabyte driver: i915 v: kernel
bus ID: 00:02.0 chip ID: 8086:5912
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: modesetting unloaded: fbdev,vesa
display ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x3720 s-dpi: 120 s-size: 541x787mm (21.3x31.0")
s-diag: 955mm (37.6")
Monitor-1: HDMI-1 res: 2560x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 97 size: 673x284mm (26.5x11.2")
diag: 730mm (28.8")
Monitor-2: HDMI-2 res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 94 size: 519x324mm (20.4x12.8")
diag: 612mm (24.1") # Intel hardware lies: "HDMI-2" is a DVI-D CRTC connection.
Monitor-3: DP-1 res: 2560x1440 hz: 60 dpi: 109 size: 598x336mm (23.5x13.2")
diag: 686mm (27")
OpenGL: renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 630 (KBL GT2) v: 4.6 Mesa 20.0.8
direct render: Yes
# xrandr | egrep 'onnect|creen|\*' | grep -v disconn | sort -r
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2560 x 3720, maximum 16384 x 16384 # aka working desktop
HDMI-2 connected 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 519mm x 324mm
HDMI-1 connected 2560x1080+0+1200 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 673mm x 284mm
DP-1 connected primary 2560x1440+0+2280 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 598mm x 336mm
2560x1440 59.95*+ 74.92
2560x1080 60.00*+
1920x1200 59.95*+
Six+ years old:
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# inxi -CS
System: Host: ara88 Kernel: 5.3.18-lp152.44-default x86_64 bits: 64 Desktop: Trinity R14.0.8
Distro: openSUSE Leap 15.2
CPU: Info: Quad Core model: AMD PRO A8-8650B R7 10 Compute Cores 4C+6G bits: 64 type: MCP L2 cache: 2048 KiB
Speed: 1393 MHz min/max: 1400/3200 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1395 2: 1397 3: 3623 4: 3673
# inxi -Gay
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics] vendor: ASRock driver: amdgpu
v: kernel alternate: radeon bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:1313
Display: server: X.Org 1.20.3 driver: modesetting display ID: :0 screens: 1
Screen-1: 0 s-res: 2560x3720 s-dpi: 120 s-size: 541x787mm (21.3x31.0")
s-diag: 955mm (37.6")
Monitor-1: DVI-D-1 res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 94
size: 519x324mm (20.4x12.8") diag: 612mm (24.1")
Monitor-2: DP-1 res: 2560x1440 hz: 60 dpi: 109 size: 598x336mm (23.5x13.2")
diag: 686mm (27")
Monitor-3: HDMI-1 res: 2560x1080 hz: 60 dpi: 97 size: 673x284mm (26.5x11.2")
diag: 730mm (28.8")
OpenGL: renderer: AMD KAVERI (DRM 3.33.0 5.3.18-lp152.44-default LLVM 9.0.1)
v: 4.5 Mesa 19.3.4 direct render: Yes
ara88:~ # xrandr | egrep 'onnect|creen|\*' | grep -v disconn | sort -r
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 2560 x 3720, maximum 16384 x 16384 # aka working desktop
HDMI-1 connected 2560x1080+0+1200 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 673mm x 284mm
DVI-D-1 connected 1920x1200+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 519mm x 324mm
DP-1 connected primary 2560x1440+0+2280 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 598mm x 336mm
2560x1440 59.95*+ 74.92
2560x1080 60.00*+
1920x1200 59.95*+
It's been a very long time since I bought a motherboard with less than two onboard video outputs.
If you do choose a motherboard trade-up, you might wish to consider choosing one with a USB-C port as well, as they can serve as a video port.
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10-21-2020, 11:55 PM
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Originally Posted by mrmazda
There is another option besides adding a graphics adapter you might wish to consider before making a purchase. How old is your X570-P? Does your power supply provide enough power reserve for everything you have in your PC now, plus a graphics card, plus anything else you might wish to add later? You might need a new one to handle a power hungry NVidia card. It could make better sense to trade motherboards than to buy a graphics adapter and a power supply when your existing CPU's APU can handle multiple outputs.
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Hi mrmazda,
Thanks for your advice.
I have no urgency purchasing a graphic card. Now I'm considering to build a new PC. My daily working PC already >2 years old. Neither I'll trade-in the motherboard. I'll use my daily working PC as spare PC.
$ inxi -CS
Code:
System:
Host: PCIeSSD1T Kernel: 5.4.0-52-generic x86_64 bits: 64
Desktop: Gnome 3.36.4 Distro: Ubuntu 20.04.1 LTS (Focal Fossa)
CPU:
Topology: Quad Core model: AMD Ryzen 5 3400G with Radeon Vega Graphics
bits: 64 type: MT MCP L2 cache: 2048 KiB
Speed: 1268 MHz min/max: 1400/3700 MHz Core speeds (MHz): 1: 1341 2: 1435
3: 1316 4: 1327 5: 1313 6: 1281 7: 1257 8: 1267
inxi -Gay
Code:
Error 10: Unsupported value: 0 for option: y
Check -h for correct parameters.
$ sudo inxi -G
Code:
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Picasso driver: amdgpu v: kernel
Display: server: X.Org 1.20.8 driver: ati,fbdev
unloaded: modesetting,radeon,vesa tty: N/A
OpenGL: renderer: AMD RAVEN (DRM 3.35.0 5.4.0-52-generic LLVM 10.0.0)
v: 4.6 Mesa 20.0.8
$ xrandr | egrep 'onnect|creen|\*' | grep -v disconn | sort -r
Code:
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3840 x 2160, maximum 16384 x 16384
HDMI-A-0 connected primary 3840x2160+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 697mm x 392mm
3840x2160 60.00 + 60.00 50.00 59.94* 30.00 25.00 24.00 29.97 23.98
Just found following 2 URLs
USB-C explained: How to get the most from it (and why it's great)
https://www.computerworld.com/articl...its-great.html
Should You Use HDMI, DisplayPort, or USB-C for a 4K Monitor?
https://www.howtogeek.com/661325/sho...for-a-4k-moni/
Regards
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10-22-2020, 12:31 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by morning-tea
Code:
inxi -Gay
Error 10: Unsupported value: 0 for option: y
Check -h for correct parameters.
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You're not using a current inxi version:
Code:
# inxi -V | head -n1
inxi 3.1.08-00 (2020-10-16)
# inxi -Gay
Graphics:
Device-1: AMD Kaveri [Radeon R7 Graphics] vendor: ASRock driver: amdgpu
v: kernel alternate: radeon bus ID: 00:01.0 chip ID: 1002:1313
Display: server: X.org 1.20.3 driver: amdgpu
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa alternate: ati tty: 180x56
Message: Advanced graphics data unavailable in console for root.
The upstream inxi releases provide a -U switch for upgrading directly to the latest version, which some distro releases block.
Last edited by mrmazda; 10-22-2020 at 12:33 AM.
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10-22-2020, 01:41 AM
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morning-tea,
Quote:
Originally Posted by morning-tea
I have no urgency purchasing a graphic card. Now I'm considering to build a new PC. My daily working PC already >2 years old. Neither I'll trade-in the motherboard. I'll use my daily working PC as spare PC.
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I recently built this gaming PC for a friend who is also interested in virtual reality.
He is thrilled with the performance of the PC, especially the RTX2060 and the AOC monitor.
This is the list of components:
Ryzen 5 3600 CPU
MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX motherboard (you already have an X570)
Fractal Design Meshify case (either S2 Larger) or C (Compact). There is also the Fractal Define R6 USB-C.
Corsair 178300 Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Kit for AMD Ryzen
Seasonic CORE-GM-650 Partial modular PSU 80PLUS Gold 650w
Crucial MX500 SSD 1TB
MSI NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER GAMING X Graphics Card 8GB GDDR6, 1695Hz, RGB Mystic Light, 3x DisplayPort, HDMI, Dual Fan Cooling System
EDUP WiFi Card 6 Adapter 3000Mbps, PCIe Network Card Intel AX200 2.4GHz/5GHz with Bluetooth 5.0 & Heat Sink PCI Express Wireless 6dBi Antenna Adapters for Windows 10 64-bit
Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B (SCMG-5100) CPU cooler
AOC Gaming 24G2U 24" 1920x1080 IPS 144Hz 1ms FreeSync Widescreen LED Gaming monitor with 3 x DPs and 1 x HDMI.
Arctic Silver MX-4 thermal paste
Last edited by beachboy2; 10-22-2020 at 01:46 AM.
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10-23-2020, 03:24 AM
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morning-tea,
I recently built this gaming PC for a friend who is also interested in virtual reality.
He is thrilled with the performance of the PC, especially the RTX2060 and the AOC monitor.
This is the list of components:
Ryzen 5 3600 CPU
MSI B450 Tomahawk MAX motherboard (you already have an X570)
Fractal Design Meshify case (either S2 Larger) or C (Compact). There is also the Fractal Define R6 USB-C.
Corsair 178300 Vengeance LPX 16 GB (2 x 8 GB) DDR4 3200 MHz C16 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Kit for AMD Ryzen
Seasonic CORE-GM-650 Partial modular PSU 80PLUS Gold 650w
Crucial MX500 SSD 1TB
MSI NVIDIA GEFORCE RTX 2060 SUPER GAMING X Graphics Card 8GB GDDR6, 1695Hz, RGB Mystic Light, 3x DisplayPort, HDMI, Dual Fan Cooling System
EDUP WiFi Card 6 Adapter 3000Mbps, PCIe Network Card Intel AX200 2.4GHz/5GHz with Bluetooth 5.0 & Heat Sink PCI Express Wireless 6dBi Antenna Adapters for Windows 10 64-bit
Scythe Mugen 5 Rev.B (SCMG-5100) CPU cooler
AOC Gaming 24G2U 24" 1920x1080 IPS 144Hz 1ms FreeSync Widescreen LED Gaming monitor with 3 x DPs and 1 x HDMI.
Arctic Silver MX-4 thermal paste
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Hi beachboy2,
Thanks for your advice. I don't game.
The configuration of new PC under planning
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CPU - AMD Ryzen 7 3700X
Motherboard - ASUS PRIME X570-PRO/CSM X570
RAM - Corsair 32GB Kit Vengeance DDR-4 3000MHz (2x16GB) SODIMM
Hard Disk - Corsair Force Series Gen.4 PCIe MP600 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD
I have old WD 1.5/2TB hard drives. I'll use them for storage of old data. The price of Gen.4 PCIe MP600 2TB NVMe M.2 SSD is quite expensive.
Regards
Last edited by morning-tea; 10-23-2020 at 03:28 AM.
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10-23-2020, 04:40 AM
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morning-tea,
You have referred to laptop SODIMM memory.
Both these desktop memory modules have a latency of 10 nanoseconds (2000 x 15 ÷ 3000 = 2000 x 16 ÷ 3200).
In the UK the C16 is slightly cheaper.
Corsair CMK32GX4M2B3000C15 Vengeance LPX 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR4 3000 MHz C15 XMP 2.0 High Performance Desktop Memory Kit, Black:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK...07T7ZD13Y?th=1
CORSAIR VENGEANCE LPX 32GB (2 x 16GB) DDR4 3200 (PC4-25600) C16 1.35V AMD Optimized Memory – Black:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Corsair-CMK...07T7ZD13Y?th=1
It is a good idea to double-check that the chosen memory is listed on the ASUS’s QVL list for a given motherboard/CPU combination.
I fell foul of this initially when using some particular Crucial RAM which appeared to be in general use.
However, it ran at too high a voltage and Crucial Support confirmed that it was incompatible with my hardware.
https://www.build-gaming-computers.c...important.html
You may have a good reason for choosing the Corsair Force Series Gen.4 PCIe MP600 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD, but since you are not gaming, wouldn't a cheaper 1TB SSD do the job?
Example:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Crucial-MX5.../dp/B077SF8KMG
Last edited by beachboy2; 10-23-2020 at 04:50 AM.
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10-24-2020, 06:59 AM
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It is a good idea to double-check that the chosen memory is listed on the ASUS’s QVL list for a given motherboard/CPU combination.
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Hi beachboy2,
Thanks for your advice. I made a wrong selection. I'll make a further search before purchasing the RAM
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You may have a good reason for choosing the Corsair Force Series Gen.4 PCIe MP600 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD, but since you are not gaming, wouldn't a cheaper 1TB SSD do the job?
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On my daily working PC, I have Gen.3 PCIe 1TB NVMe SSD installed. I have about 35 websites running on VMs of Oracle VirturalBox on this box. For such a reason I'm considering Corsair Force Series Gen.4 PCIe MP600 1TB NVMe M.2 SSD on the new desktop PC. I have old 1TB and 2TB SSDs available. Maybe I'll install them on the new desktop PC first to check the speed.
Anyway I have no urgency building this new desktop PC. My new Dell 32" 4K display is now working on my daily desktop PC. Although there is occasional flickering problem, it is NOT very serious. I'm now contacting Dell Technical Support for a solution.
Now I'm turning my eyes on 8K display. Or I'll wait for 8K resolution becomes the main stream. It won't be long time.
Regards
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10-24-2020, 09:59 AM
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Now I'm turning my eyes on 8K display. Or I'll wait for 8K resolution becomes the main stream. It won't be long time.
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The wait for linux to support 8K resolution will be longer than for windows. I don't suspect it will be far behind, but until the drivers are available you might not have what you expect in performance. There are still some glitches in support for 4K.
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