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Old 05-02-2007, 04:08 AM   #1
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Smile SATA DVD writers & Linux


Hi fellows.

I'm planing to upgrade my pc and change every drive to SATA and found Asus DRW-1814BLT dvd writer but I don't want to buy it unless I know it works on Linux. I've searched for this kind a stuff and found a maillist that someone says it works on Linux but not on FreeBSD but not specified kernel version or distro or anything.

Please if someone knows this drive works on kernel 2.6.18 (Debian 4.0) please let me know or if someone knows another SATA writer that works please also post to here.

Thanks.

Note: usefull stuff found here: http://linux-ata.org/ ,but I'm not sure
 
Old 05-02-2007, 04:13 AM   #2
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I didnt even think of this, I just brought a SATA DVD writer too and I didnt even think to check, linux support for CD/DVD drives is very good, so it didnt even cross my mind to check the hardware compatability lists.

Best way to find out is to check the HCL (hardware compatability list) for your specific distro probably on thier website.
 
Old 05-02-2007, 08:36 AM   #3
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The sata CD/DVD writers have a bad history with both linux and windows. That is why the majority of motherboards still have pata connections.
 
Old 05-03-2007, 02:47 AM   #4
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I was just considering asking the exact same question for exactly the same reason. Yesterday I was checking out drives and found that same ASUS DVD burner and a Pioneer DVR-212, but not much else with a SATA interface.

There are two problems I have with just going for PATA drives. One, the mainboard I'm going to get has 6 SATA ports, but only one IDE port, and I have a couple of old PATA hard drives that are already slotted to go there. Two, it wouldn't help much in the long term. PATA is on the way out, and SATA is faster. I'm looking at buying two drives for my new system, and and I don't like the idea of shelling out the yen for PATA drives only to have to replace them a year down the line for SATA replacements.

So the real question is whether to risk going for SATA now in the hopes that it will work, or at least that the problems will be minor and quickly corrected, or fall back on old, reliable technology and ignore the very reason I'm upgrading to begin with.

I read through the linux-ata page posted above, and I think you'll be ok if your SATA controller supports AHCI, since it's an open specification and is well supported by the driver. So most of the common controllers, the newer Nvidia, Intel, Sis, Via should work. Your problems will probably occur if the controller is less-well supported, as shown in the driver chart. This is only my guesswork though.

I did find this thread about someone who seemed to have no trouble on Etch, so it's working for at least some people.
 
Old 05-03-2007, 10:47 AM   #5
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The sata transfer rate is faster than pata, but right now the drives themselves are not any faster. So buying sata for higher speed now will still mean you have to buy another sata drive later in order to see any real speed advantage. As far as hard drives are concerned(the 1st link does not talk about dvd/cd)virtually all the issues are under control. You could pick up a add on ide/pata controller for cheap ($15 US) and run that until the old drives die off.

On the other hand newegg now lists 16 sata dvd burners and I did not see any rated really bad (as opposed to a year ago).
 
Old 05-07-2007, 04:04 AM   #6
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Thank you all for a posting.

I keep my old pata writer because I have 1 pata controller, but I definitly buy a sata writer in september not for speed improvment but for less cables .

I will post here if the that drive works or not.
 
Old 05-07-2007, 05:42 AM   #7
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I just bought a sata dvd writer (without checking first) and it just works.
Device is /dev/sr0.

Yves.
 
Old 05-07-2007, 10:51 AM   #8
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I've decided myself to buy only one SATA drive now and see how it works. If there are no problems I'll buy the second one. If there are, I'll probably have to return the first one and buy a separate IDE card to handle the extra PATA drives. I'm hoping it doesn't come to that.

@lazlow: I suppose it depends on where the bottleneck is. If the disk speed is faster than the connection, then I'd expect SATA would speed things up. But if a PATA bus is already fast enough to handle the full load, then there likely won't be any difference. From the pages I've found so far, it seems like it's mostly a wash, so you seem to be right.

But speed doesn't really matter all that much to me in any case. Writing at high speeds has given me enough unreadable disks that these days I never write at more than 4x anyway. And I've found that most drives read fast enough not to be a big problem in most situations (though faster is always better). The important thing is that the drive works.
 
Old 05-08-2007, 03:34 AM   #9
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Hello theYinYeti.

Please tell what type of dvd writer did you bought and what kernel are you using on what distro.

Thank you.
 
Old 05-09-2007, 08:25 AM   #10
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My hardware:
http://www.materiel.net/ctl/Socket_7...e945G_DVI.html
http://www.materiel.net/ctl/Graveurs...OEM_beige.html

At the time I bought this drive, I was using Mandriva 2007; now it is 2007.1 (aka "Spring"). I think the default kernel is 2.6.17.x (don't remember the x).

Yves.
 
Old 05-09-2007, 11:32 AM   #11
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Sorry mistaken interface..

Last edited by farslayer; 05-09-2007 at 11:38 AM.
 
Old 05-11-2007, 12:38 AM   #12
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I finally have my new machine working, and it's temporarily running an Ubuntu live disk. So far there seem to be absolutely no troubles with the SATA drive. Everything appears to read normally, and I even successfully burned a disk with it. Here's the specs:

AMD Athlon64 X2 5000+
Gigabyte GA-M57SLI-S4 MB (Nvidia MCP55 chipset)
Pioneer DVR-212 SATA drive.
Ubuntu Feisty 64bit (kernel 2.6.20-15)

I'm a happy camper.
Now I just have to decide which distro to install permanently.
 
Old 05-11-2007, 12:54 AM   #13
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You might as well get used to this now. All distros are just visiting. You may stick with one more than others but in the end we all switch every once in a while. The grass is always greener....
 
Old 05-11-2007, 05:27 AM   #14
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Oh, I know. I started off with Mandrake a few years ago, then switched to Debian because certain things were too frustrating, especially the dependency hell. I've been very happy with Debian since then, in spite of the lack of polish, but now I'm trying *buntu to see if it lives up to the hype. So far I'm not that impressed. The live gui, at least, seems too dumbed-down for me, and there are certain other design decisions and bugs I don't like. I'm going to give it some more time, but it's starting to look like I'll be sticking with Debian for the time being.

But this is getting off topic for this thread. The important thing is that the SATA drives all work. As I said before, I think the SATA controller is the key. You should be safe with almost any distro and drive as long as the chipset is fully supported.
 
  


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