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Old 05-15-2006, 05:41 PM   #1
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Talking re:ipod usb mounting


I am kinda new to linux and I was wondering if anybody could help me out a bit....
I have searched the forum to no avail...

I am attempting to mount a mac file system ipod nano in fedora core 5
I can't figure out the command line to mount it; however, I can mount it through the GUI having it end up as /media/disk. when i mount it it ends up as read-only

what I was wondering was if anybody could tell me which logs or conf to look in or give me a point to the/a command tutorial?

Thanks for anybodies help
 
Old 05-15-2006, 07:11 PM   #2
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mount /dev/sd*1 /mnt/ipod

That command would do it just fine, exchanging the * for the letter pertinent to the drive. You may find all mountable devices currently plugged in with this command -> fdisk -l (that is a L), there you can probably figure out which letter to place in. iPod's have multiple file systems at their disposal: FAT32 and HFS+, you may need to mount your iPod on Windows first to initialize the secondary FS FAT32 (if HFS+ is on and not working correctly)...otherwise, the command above should suffice. man mount will give you mount options, read-only is an optional argument you can use when mounting devices, but I don't believe it is on by default.
 
Old 05-15-2006, 09:22 PM   #3
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Thank you so much for your help, it was a great thing to learn that command ( fdisk -l )
right ow I do have it in hfs+, everything that I have found has told me that linux doesn't like that fs very much ~ kind of weird both derived from unix....
however. when I try and mount it it says something like this

# /dev/sdb1 /mnt/ipod -w hfs+ rw,user,umask=7000 0 0
bash: /dev/sdb1: Permission denied

then when I run fdisk -l I see this

Disk /dev/sdb: 2047 MB, 2047868416 bytes
63 heads, 62 sectors/track, 1023 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 3906 * 512 = 1999872 bytes

Disk /dev/sdb doesn't contain a valid partition table


I think I may just start fresh with a fat32 fs

thanks again

if you have any more helpful insights into how to get the hfs+ recognized please let me know

Thank you so much again
 
Old 05-15-2006, 10:05 PM   #4
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I believe ` cat /proc/filesystems ` will return all the filesystems you can read, you may want to verify that HFS+ is in that list.
 
Old 05-16-2006, 10:11 AM   #5
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Thank you much for all your help...it's almost like you are a personal support desk or something; and I do thank you for that!

But, I have already done the format to fat32 fs and started to download some of my music via ftp from work. thanks again for all your help wish there was some way to repay ya ~

Thank you much.....
 
Old 05-16-2006, 12:37 PM   #6
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Your continued use of linux is payment to me =)
 
Old 05-16-2006, 03:34 PM   #7
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ok so I get to use a better OS have fun doing it
not spend any real money doing it
and thats what you want....
I'de have bought you a coke too if you said heh heh

can I get a woa linux?

thanks again
 
Old 05-16-2006, 08:00 PM   #8
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ok kinda dumb but I have hit another snag.. same one kinda

i did not reformat left it hfs+ couldn't admit defeat

I added the line

/dev/sda /mnt/ipod hfsplus async,nodev,nosuid,user,rw,noauto 0 0

to fstab and when I run

mount -t hfsplus /dev/sda3 /mnt/ipod

the ipod does now mount; however, it is still read-only?!? i got hfsutils and hfsplusutils via rpm
to no avail also I run dmesg and get this line and I am currently trying to find the force option

hfs: write access to a jounaled filesystem is not supported, use the force option at your own risk, mounting read-only.


Thanks again
 
Old 05-16-2006, 10:11 PM   #9
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I'm pretty sure "use the force option at your own risk" is telling you that you are forcing (with -t hsfplus) to mount the unsupported device but writing to the device is entirely out of the question.

Now, this is probably a bit too lofty for a new linux user, but you can always re-compile your kernel with HFS+ support and it would work, but I wouldn't recommend it. As it is, the kernel doesn't support the file-system and has no means to communicate with it. You can thank Apple for very poor Linux support, even though they made their fame off the same framework (boggles the mind). Proprietary systems in mass-market devices has been and will always be a stupid thing.
 
Old 05-17-2006, 10:31 AM   #10
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"Proprietary systems in mass-market devices has been and will always be a stupid thing" -could not agree with you more.

thanks again for all your help.
 
Old 05-23-2006, 03:30 PM   #11
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OK!! I got it

to mount a ipod nano that is hfsplus it must have journaling *disabled*
and one must have hfsplusutils in order for this to work

I googled everything found a site that shows how to disable journaling, this had to be done on an OS X machine along with gtkpod mounted the volume and taa daa

thanks for all the help
 
  


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