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Old 01-10-2019, 04:30 PM   #1
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Question RAID 10 not dected [Solved]


I am trying to install MX-18 Linux on the new computer that I built with a hardware RAID 10 and it doesn't show up in GParted so I could set up patricians then format. I am using new HDDs that have never been used. Does anyone know how I can get GParted to detect it?

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Old 01-10-2019, 04:58 PM   #2
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What's the RAID controller?
 
Old 01-10-2019, 05:18 PM   #3
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What's the RAID controller?
I don't know. It's what ever ASUS uses on the TUF X470-PLUS Gaming motherboard. It's a hardware RAID 10. The RAID 10 shows in the BIOS but not in Gparted when I boot from a live USB with MX-18 Linux on it.
 
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What's the RAID controller?
I went into the RAID configuration tool and it said: AMD-RAID Array Configuration (Build:8.1.0-00064) Is that it?
 
Old 01-10-2019, 07:43 PM   #5
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From the livecD what does "lsblk" show ?. Looking at the boot messages might be enlightening too - see what devices are detected and/or any error messages.

Edit: ugh - just found this discussion. May or may not apply to you. Note the comments further down re a later patch needed (as well ?) for current systems.

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Old 01-10-2019, 08:24 PM   #6
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From the livecD what does "lsblk" show ?. Looking at the boot messages might be enlightening too - see what devices are detected and/or any error messages.

Edit: ugh - just found this discussion. May or may not apply to you. Note the comments further down re a later patch needed (as well ?) for current systems.
What is lsblk and where or how do I find it? I don't know what the boot messages say since I can't read that fast.
 
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lsblk is a terminal command - open a terminal type it in, hit <Enter>.
 
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lsblk is a terminal command - open a terminal type it in, hit <Enter>.
All what shows is the thumb drive. lsblk
NAME MAJ:MIN RM SIZE RO TYPE MOUNTPOINT
loop0 7:0 0 1.3G 1 loop /live/linux
sda 8:0 1 14.6G 0 disk
├─sda1 8:1 1 14.6G 0 part /live/boot-dev
└─sda2 8:2 1 50M 0 part
The only time I can make all the drives show is by disabling the RAID in the BIOS.
 
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Old 01-11-2019, 09:19 AM   #10
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The only time I can make all the drives show is by disabling the RAID in the BIOS.
Then why not setup software RAID instead? There are many examples on the web, here are couple:

https://www.tecmint.com/create-raid-10-in-linux/
https://www.digitalocean.com/communi...n-ubuntu-16-04
 
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Then why not setup software RAID instead? There are many examples on the web, here are couple:

https://www.tecmint.com/create-raid-10-in-linux/
https://www.digitalocean.com/communi...n-ubuntu-16-04
Because I tried those and none of them work.
 
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Update on the RAID issue. Called ASUS support for the 5th time and finally they told me it's a software chipset array that they have no Linux drivers for. ASUS falsely advertises that their motherboards have RAID. This explains why their motherboards have dropped in price from previous motherboards that I have used that have hardware RAID embedded into the motherboard and all setup and control was in the BIOS. This was the last product I will ever buy from ASUS. I have ordered a hardware RAID card that I hope will work because I couldn't find any cards that say they are for Linux and can do a RAID 10 with 4 drives with 4TB total support. I have 4 HDDs 2TB each that will come out to 4TB in a RAID 10 configuration. At least this card is a hardware RAID and can handle up to 4TB drives. :happy: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... -_-Product I will update when I receive it and install it.
 
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Update on the RAID issue. Called ASUS support for the 5th time and finally they told me it's a software chipset array that they have no Linux drivers for. ASUS falsely advertises that their motherboards have RAID. This explains why their motherboards have dropped in price from previous motherboards that I have used that have hardware RAID embedded into the motherboard and all setup and control was in the BIOS. This was the last product I will ever buy from ASUS. I have ordered a hardware RAID card that I hope will work because I couldn't find any cards that say they are for Linux and can do a RAID 10 with 4 drives with 4TB total support. I have 4 HDDs 2TB each that will come out to 4TB in a RAID 10 configuration. At least this card is a hardware RAID and can handle up to 4TB drives. :happy: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product. ... -_-Product I will update when I receive it and install it.
I've used MegaRAID RAID controllers over last 10 years with SuSE/RHEL/CentOS without any problems; works out of box. I am sure there are many others out there that work as good.
 
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Old 01-13-2019, 07:48 PM   #14
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I don't know. It's what ever ASUS uses on the TUF X470-PLUS Gaming motherboard. It's a hardware RAID 10.
Actually it isn't real hardware RAID. This is BIOS RAID and is derogatively called fakeRAID. Anything built onto a motherboard is fakeRAID. True hardware controllers are separate PCIe cards and cost $200+.

For Linux I recommend using software mdadm RAID 10 with LVMThis was the last product I will ever buy from ASUS. on top. You can create as many Logical volume virtual partitions as you want. However you can't boot directly off of RAID 10 so you will need to create a separate /boot partition.

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ASUS falsely advertises that their motherboards have RAID. This was the last product I will ever buy from ASUS.
You won't be able to buy a motherboard from anyone else in the future as virtually all companies do this. They call fake BIOS RAID hardware RAID.

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Old 01-13-2019, 11:27 PM   #15
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Actually it isn't real hardware RAID. This is BIOS RAID and is derogatively called fakeRAID. Anything built onto a motherboard is fakeRAID. True hardware controllers are separate PCIe cards and cost $200+.
I had hardware RAID 0/1 embedded into the motherboard on my two previous builds which is a real RAID. I found out later this current motherboard doesn't have RAID. All it has is a cheap garbage software RAID which is a FAKE RAID that doesn't work for installing any Linux distro. I ordered a hardware RAID card to solve the issue.
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For Linux I recommend using software mdadm RAID 10 with LVMThis was the last product I will ever buy from ASUS. on top. You can create as many Logical volume virtual partitions as you want. However you can't boot directly off of RAID 10 so you will need to create a separate /boot partition.
That's useless for me because I want a RAID 10 that I can boot from and set up all my patricians in it with GParted which is what a real RAID is which is why I have a hardware RAID on order.


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You won't be able to buy a motherboard from anyone else in the future as virtually all companies do this. They call fake BIOS RAID hardware RAID.
So I heard on another forum which is bad. They are all going on the cheap. I won't buy anything from ASUS any more because they lied to me and it took me calling the idiots at ASUS 5 times and they called me once to tell me it's a software RAID after interrogating it out of them which is means the motherboard doesn't have RAID. What good is crappy software that GParted can't see the RAID 10 drive?
 
  


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