pulseaudio

milomak · 12-17-2020, 04:56 PM

i am running 3 active distros - arch, gentoo and solus

on arch and gentoo, my main speaker sound out of the mother is working. on solus it is not working.

arch (and gentoo) show that this is the card they use
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...1&d=1608244680

solus shows the card is unplugged and unavailable
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...1&d=1608244796

running pacmd list-cards, i noticed this as a difference
arch/gentoo

Code:

output:hdmi-stereo-extra1: Digital Stereo (HDMI 2) Output (priority 5700, available: unknown)

while solus shows

Code:

output:hdmi-stereo-extra1: Digital Stereo (HDMI 2) Output (priority 5700, available: no)

my first suspicion naturally lies here as the first main distinct i can pick up from reading a few links with similar issues

i have not been able to pinpoint a solution how to turn the no to at least unknown in solus and see if that helps

some relevant data on the solus build
$ inxi -A

Code:

Audio:     Device-1: NVIDIA TU106 High Definition Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Device-2: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Starship/Matisse HD Audio driver: snd_hda_intel 
           Sound Server: ALSA v: k5.6.19-159.current

$ pactl list sources

Code:

Source #0
	State: RUNNING
	Name: alsa_output.pci-0000_29_00.1.hdmi-stereo.monitor
	Description: Monitor of TU106 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)
	Driver: module-alsa-card.c
	Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
	Channel Map: front-left,front-right
	Owner Module: 6
	Mute: no
	Volume: front-left: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB,   front-right: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
	        balance 0.00
	Base Volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
	Monitor of Sink: alsa_output.pci-0000_29_00.1.hdmi-stereo
	Latency: 0 usec, configured 40000 usec
	Flags: DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY 
	Properties:
		device.description = "Monitor of TU106 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
		device.class = "monitor"
		alsa.card = "0"
		alsa.card_name = "HDA NVidia"
		alsa.long_card_name = "HDA NVidia at 0xf7080000 irq 71"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:29:00.1"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.1/0000:29:00.1/sound/card0"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "10de"
		device.vendor.name = "NVIDIA Corporation"
		device.product.id = "10f9"
		device.product.name = "TU106 High Definition Audio Controller"
		device.string = "0"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	Formats:
		pcm

$ amixer -c0 (arch returns the same)

Code:

Simple mixer control 'IEC958',0
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',1
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',2
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',3
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',4
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]
Simple mixer control 'IEC958',5
  Capabilities: pswitch pswitch-joined
  Playback channels: Mono
  Mono: Playback [on]

$ pacmd list-cards

Code:

2 card(s) available.
    index: 0
	name: <alsa_card.pci-0000_29_00.1>
	driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
	owner module: 6
	properties:
		alsa.card = "0"
		alsa.card_name = "HDA NVidia"
		alsa.long_card_name = "HDA NVidia at 0xf7080000 irq 71"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:29:00.1"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.1/0000:29:00.1/sound/card0"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "10de"
		device.vendor.name = "NVIDIA Corporation"
		device.product.id = "10f9"
		device.product.name = "TU106 High Definition Audio Controller"
		device.string = "0"
		device.description = "TU106 High Definition Audio Controller"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	profiles:
		output:hdmi-stereo: Digital Stereo (HDMI) Output (priority 5900, available: unknown)
		output:hdmi-stereo-extra1: Digital Stereo (HDMI 2) Output (priority 5700, available: no)
		output:hdmi-surround-extra1: Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI 2) Output (priority 600, available: no)
		output:hdmi-surround71-extra1: Digital Surround 7.1 (HDMI 2) Output (priority 600, available: no)
		output:hdmi-stereo-extra2: Digital Stereo (HDMI 3) Output (priority 5700, available: no)
		output:hdmi-surround-extra2: Digital Surround 5.1 (HDMI 3) Output (priority 600, available: no)
		output:hdmi-surround71-extra2: Digital Surround 7.1 (HDMI 3) Output (priority 600, available: no)
		output:hdmi-stereo-extra3: Digital Stereo (HDMI 4) Output (priority 5700, available: unknown)
		output:hdmi-stereo-extra4: Digital Stereo (HDMI 5) Output (priority 5700, available: unknown)
		output:hdmi-stereo-extra5: Digital Stereo (HDMI 6) Output (priority 5700, available: unknown)
		off: Off (priority 0, available: unknown)
	active profile: <output:hdmi-stereo>
	sinks:
		alsa_output.pci-0000_29_00.1.hdmi-stereo/#0: TU106 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)
	sources:
		alsa_output.pci-0000_29_00.1.hdmi-stereo.monitor/#0: Monitor of TU106 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)
	ports:
		hdmi-output-0: HDMI / DisplayPort (priority 5900, latency offset 0 usec, available: yes)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
				device.product.name = "LG HDR 4K"
		hdmi-output-1: HDMI / DisplayPort 2 (priority 5800, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
		hdmi-output-2: HDMI / DisplayPort 3 (priority 5700, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
		hdmi-output-3: HDMI / DisplayPort 4 (priority 5600, latency offset 0 usec, available: yes)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
				device.product.name = "LG HDR 4K"
		hdmi-output-4: HDMI / DisplayPort 5 (priority 5500, latency offset 0 usec, available: yes)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
				device.product.name = "LG HDR 4K"
		hdmi-output-5: HDMI / DisplayPort 6 (priority 5400, latency offset 0 usec, available: yes)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "video-display"
				device.product.name = "LG HDR 4K"
    index: 1
	name: <alsa_card.pci-0000_2b_00.4>
	driver: <module-alsa-card.c>
	owner module: 7
	properties:
		alsa.card = "1"
		alsa.card_name = "HD-Audio Generic"
		alsa.long_card_name = "HD-Audio Generic at 0xf7400000 irq 73"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:2b:00.4"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:08.1/0000:2b:00.4/sound/card1"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "1022"
		device.vendor.name = "Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD]"
		device.product.id = "1487"
		device.product.name = "Starship/Matisse HD Audio Controller"
		device.string = "1"
		device.description = "Starship/Matisse HD Audio Controller"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	profiles:
		input:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Input (priority 65, available: no)
		output:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Output (priority 6500, available: no)
		output:analog-stereo+input:analog-stereo: Analog Stereo Duplex (priority 6565, available: no)
		off: Off (priority 0, available: unknown)
	active profile: <off>
	ports:
		analog-input-front-mic: Front Microphone (priority 8500, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
		analog-input-rear-mic: Rear Microphone (priority 8200, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-input-microphone"
		analog-input-linein: Line In (priority 8100, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				
		analog-output-lineout: Line Out (priority 9000, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				
		analog-output-headphones: Headphones (priority 9900, latency offset 0 usec, available: no)
			properties:
				device.icon_name = "audio-headphones"

$ pactl list sinks

Code:

Sink #0
	State: IDLE
	Name: alsa_output.pci-0000_29_00.1.hdmi-stereo
	Description: TU106 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)
	Driver: module-alsa-card.c
	Sample Specification: s16le 2ch 44100Hz
	Channel Map: front-left,front-right
	Owner Module: 6
	Mute: no
	Volume: front-left: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB,   front-right: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
	        balance 0.00
	Base Volume: 65536 / 100% / 0.00 dB
	Monitor Source: alsa_output.pci-0000_29_00.1.hdmi-stereo.monitor
	Latency: 32695 usec, configured 40000 usec
	Flags: HARDWARE DECIBEL_VOLUME LATENCY SET_FORMATS 
	Properties:
		alsa.resolution_bits = "16"
		device.api = "alsa"
		device.class = "sound"
		alsa.class = "generic"
		alsa.subclass = "generic-mix"
		alsa.name = "HDMI 0"
		alsa.id = "HDMI 0"
		alsa.subdevice = "0"
		alsa.subdevice_name = "subdevice #0"
		alsa.device = "3"
		alsa.card = "0"
		alsa.card_name = "HDA NVidia"
		alsa.long_card_name = "HDA NVidia at 0xf7080000 irq 71"
		alsa.driver_name = "snd_hda_intel"
		device.bus_path = "pci-0000:29:00.1"
		sysfs.path = "/devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:03.1/0000:29:00.1/sound/card0"
		device.bus = "pci"
		device.vendor.id = "10de"
		device.vendor.name = "NVIDIA Corporation"
		device.product.id = "10f9"
		device.product.name = "TU106 High Definition Audio Controller"
		device.string = "hdmi:0"
		device.buffering.buffer_size = "352768"
		device.buffering.fragment_size = "176384"
		device.access_mode = "mmap+timer"
		device.profile.name = "hdmi-stereo"
		device.profile.description = "Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
		device.description = "TU106 High Definition Audio Controller Digital Stereo (HDMI)"
		module-udev-detect.discovered = "1"
		device.icon_name = "audio-card-pci"
	Ports:
		hdmi-output-0: HDMI / DisplayPort (type: HDMI, priority: 5900, available)
	Active Port: hdmi-output-0
	Formats:
		pcm

$ aplay -l

Code:

**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 11: HDMI 5 [HDMI 5]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: Generic [HD-Audio Generic], device 0: ALC892 Analog [ALC892 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

$ aplay -L

Code:

null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
samplerate
    Rate Converter Plugin Using Samplerate Library
speexrate
    Rate Converter Plugin Using Speex Resampler
jack
    JACK Audio Connection Kit
oss
    Open Sound System
pulse
    PulseAudio Sound Server
speex
    Plugin using Speex DSP (resample, agc, denoise, echo, dereverb)
upmix
    Plugin for channel upmix (4,6,8)
vdownmix
    Plugin for channel downmix (stereo) with a simple spacialization
hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=0
    HDA NVidia, HDMI 0
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=1
    HDA NVidia, HDMI 1
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=2
    HDA NVidia, HDMI 2
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=3
    HDA NVidia, HDMI 3
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=4
    HDA NVidia, HDMI 4
    HDMI Audio Output
hdmi:CARD=NVidia,DEV=5
    HDA NVidia, HDMI 5
    HDMI Audio Output
usbstream:CARD=NVidia
    HDA NVidia
    USB Stream Output
sysdefault:CARD=Generic
    HD-Audio Generic, ALC892 Analog
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=Generic,DEV=0
    HD-Audio Generic, ALC892 Analog
    Front output / input
surround21:CARD=Generic,DEV=0
    HD-Audio Generic, ALC892 Analog
    2.1 Surround output to Front and Subwoofer speakers
surround40:CARD=Generic,DEV=0
    HD-Audio Generic, ALC892 Analog
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
surround41:CARD=Generic,DEV=0
    HD-Audio Generic, ALC892 Analog
    4.1 Surround output to Front, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround50:CARD=Generic,DEV=0
    HD-Audio Generic, ALC892 Analog
    5.0 Surround output to Front, Center and Rear speakers
surround51:CARD=Generic,DEV=0
    HD-Audio Generic, ALC892 Analog
    5.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Rear and Subwoofer speakers
surround71:CARD=Generic,DEV=0
    HD-Audio Generic, ALC892 Analog
    7.1 Surround output to Front, Center, Side, Rear and Woofer speakers
usbstream:CARD=Generic
    HD-Audio Generic
    USB Stream Output

i've also attached the same info for arch

and pavucontrol shows that sound is happening. but i can't hear it. any ideas on how to get the speaker to play it would be appreciated.

i did try to copt default.pa and daemon.conf from the arch install to the solus one, but that didn't make a difference

business_kid · 12-18-2020, 11:00 AM

I would go at solus. Live there, and try to get the card up. About the only thing you told us is that the card works in 2 other distros. So compare

lspci output
lsmod |grep snd
Check is alsamixer muted

Where they differ, show us the working output, and the non-working output, and folks will get to the bottom of this fairly quick.

milomak · 12-18-2020, 12:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by business_kid

I would go at solus. Live there, and try to get the card up. About the only thing you told us is that the card works in 2 other distros. So compare

lspci output
lsmod |grep snd
Check is alsamixer muted

Where they differ, show us the working output, and the non-working output, and folks will get to the bottom of this fairly quick.

what do you mean?

i have provided:
- inxi -A (your lscpi output)
- pacmd list-cards
- pactl list sources
- amixer -c0 (which shows the card is not muted)
- pacmd list-cards
- pactl list sinks
- aplay -l
- aplay -L

as well as attaching the same for arch linux where things are working as expected

business_kid · 12-18-2020, 01:52 PM

Sorry - My mistake. Too busy here, missed some of that.

Is anything using the AMD card? The Nvidia seems to work in 2, but not in 1. I would like to see lsmod |grep snd from solus and one other in case something is odd.

milomak · 12-19-2020, 01:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by business_kid

Sorry - My mistake. Too busy here, missed some of that.

Is anything using the AMD card? The Nvidia seems to work in 2, but not in 1. I would like to see lsmod |grep snd from solus and one other in case something is odd.

no problem. the amd card is the sound related to the chassis

again. on the arch install, sound plays through the speaker. when i plug in headphones in the chassis, sounds shifts to the headphones.

on the solus install, sound from the headphone works.and in pavucontrol, i can see that pulse picks up when the headphones are plugged in.

the solution to the problem seems to be enabling

Code:

output:hdmi-stereo-extra1: Digital Stereo (HDMI 2) Output (priority 5700, available: no)

to unknown or whatever it takes that pavucontrol does not see it it as unplugged and unavailable

business_kid · 12-20-2020, 04:51 AM

Well, that's a complicated sound setup, but I gather it's mostly on the chassis. Personally, I would decide which is the better card, disable the other one and set up the remaining one. Saying it's on the 'chassis' doesn't mean much to me. On the Motherboard?

That aside, is hdmi 2 being fed by AMD or Nvidia card? Can you nobble the working card temporarily while we sort the dud one? tem

obobskivich · 12-20-2020, 03:40 PM

I'm not following exactly what you have hooked up here - and suspect I may not be alone - if I understand right you basically have a tower with onboard audio (with analog output jacks on the front/back - this is what I understand to be the problem child), and a newer nVidia card which has HDMI out (this is what I understand to not be the problem child) - are you using the HDMI audio? (either directly, like into a TV/receiver to use speakers, or 'indirectly' like using a headphone jack built-in to a monitor or via HDMI audio extractor?) If the answer is 'no' for HDMI audio, I would just disable that card in pavucontrol entirely and try again. If the answer is 'yes' to HDMI audio, are you sure whatever application(s) you're using that are sending sound are actually pointed at the right audio card? (is the one you want to use set as 'default'?)

milomak · 12-20-2020, 05:27 PM

the chassis is the case

it's not complicated at all given that 3 of 4 distros handled it without issue without any intervention on my part

milomak · 12-20-2020, 05:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by obobskivich

I'm not following exactly what you have hooked up here - and suspect I may not be alone - if I understand right you basically have a tower with onboard audio (with analog output jacks on the front/back - this is what I understand to be the problem child), and a newer nVidia card which has HDMI out (this is what I understand to not be the problem child) - are you using the HDMI audio? (either directly, like into a TV/receiver to use speakers, or 'indirectly' like using a headphone jack built-in to a monitor or via HDMI audio extractor?) If the answer is 'no' for HDMI audio, I would just disable that card in pavucontrol entirely and try again. If the answer is 'yes' to HDMI audio, are you sure whatever application(s) you're using that are sending sound are actually pointed at the right audio card? (is the one you want to use set as 'default'?)

i have a case that has audio jacks - this is not the problem

the problem is that the main speaker is hooked to the motherboard. debian/arch/gentoo pickup this is

Code:

output:hdmi-stereo-extra1: Digital Stereo (HDMI 2) Output (priority 5700, available: unknown)

solus sees it as

Code:

output:hdmi-stereo-extra1: Digital Stereo (HDMI 2) Output (priority 5700, available: no)

this is the most obvious difference to me in how 4 distros are treating the same card

debian/arch/gentoo work as expected. if i plug in my headphones to the case, they play the sound through the case. solus only plays sound through the case.

cs-cam · 05-14-2021, 11:52 AM

I'm having exactly this problem but on Arch - fresh install. Did you ever get it working?

business_kid · 05-14-2021, 02:13 PM

The way a modern kernel is supposed to be since 3.x.x?)is

The hardware identifies itself
The kernel loads the appropiate modules, & firmware
Any supplementary configuration or options are ap[plied.
Programs are started if applicable.

The part (soundcard in this case) is then ready for use.

I would inspect dmesg between the working and non-working distros. That's as close as you'll get to a kernel's mind on the matter. You should see differences.

milomak · 05-15-2021, 10:47 AM

dmesg shows no change when i put the headphones in the jack or when i take them out

business_kid · 05-16-2021, 06:37 AM

I wouldn't expect it to. If you read my last post you'll see I was more interested in what hardware it sees at boot up. There was, and I suppose still is a hardware switch on earphone sockets to replace the speaker with the earphones when you plug them in. There's some software involvement too