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Old 05-15-2017, 02:10 PM   #1
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Angry Problem with YaST Network settings


I am using OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 on a Dell Inspiron 1545.
There is an error when I change from eth1 to eth0 after deleting another entry:
"key given for udev rule is not supported"
When I searched those quotes on Google, it showed no results. Am I the only one that has this problem?
How do I fix this? Why don't they have an automatic problem detector that shows problems?

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Old 05-15-2017, 03:24 PM   #2
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First, just to clarify - YaST Network Settings is used for configuring when wicked is used for network management rather the Network Manager, so I assume you are wishing to use wicked? (The former is similar to the old traditional ifup method of controlling network interfaces).

There are entries added automatically to /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules to designate the eth* naming based on device MAC addresses. The following commands should confirm the association...
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/sbin/ifconfig -a
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cat /etc/udev/rules.d/70-persistent-net.rules
 
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I am using OpenSUSE Leap 42.2 on a Dell Inspiron 1545.
There is an error when I change from eth1 to eth0 after deleting another entry:
"key given for udev rule is not supported"
When I searched those quotes on Google, it showed no results. Am I the only one that has this problem? How do I fix this?
...and another network 'problem':
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ms-4175605946/

Read the "Question Guidelines" link in my posting signature. You say you 'change from eth1 to eth0 after deleting another entry'...but don't tell us where you did this, how, what you clicked on/typed in. We can't guess. You can easily go into YAST, and change your network management from wicked to NetworkManager, and get the GUI that you seem to want in the system tray.
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Why don't they have an automatic problem detector that shows problems?
Because they don't exist, for any computer or operating system, anywhere, and probably won't in our lifetimes. If you're so unhappy with Linux, why do you persist in using it?
 
Old 05-15-2017, 06:35 PM   #4
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...and another network 'problem':
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ms-4175605946/

Read the "Question Guidelines" link in my posting signature. You say you 'change from eth1 to eth0 after deleting another entry'...but don't tell us where you did this, how, what you clicked on/typed in. We can't guess. You can easily go into YAST, and change your network management from wicked to NetworkManager, and get the GUI that you seem to want in the system tray.

Because they don't exist, for any computer or operating system, anywhere, and probably won't in our lifetimes. If you're so unhappy with Linux, why do you persist in using it?
Deleting an entry and changing eth1 to eth0 was in YAST. Before that, I was using virbr0 or whatever it is, and somehow eth0 changed to eth1
Why don't they make it so settings from both NetworkManager and YAST(Wicked) be used at the same time? Some things cannot be done with networkmanager, so I have to change between them with settings over and over?
The final one, maybe I miscommunicated.
 
Old 05-15-2017, 10:09 PM   #5
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Deleting an entry and changing eth1 to eth0 was in YAST. Before that, I was using virbr0 or whatever it is, and somehow eth0 changed to eth1
I wonder if you may have had a stale config in /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-*. Start by sharing
Code:
/sbin/ifconfig -a
Code:
ls -l /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-*
and we can advise from there.

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Why don't they make it so settings from both NetworkManager and YAST(Wicked) be used at the same time?
The former is used to allow regular users to connect to network environments that may change frequently (eg laptop in various wireless environments), while the latter is for more static network environments (eg desktop or server environments). Having both enabled concurrently can cause issues as they will both attempt to control given network interfaces.

This openSUSE reference guide may be useful to you
https://doc.opensuse.org/documentati....basicnet.html

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Some things cannot be done with networkmanager, so I have to change between them with settings over and over?
You should elaborate with respect to what you are trying to achieve. NetworkManager can do most things that regular users might need to do. It even has a dispatcher script facility that can be used to perform quite complex operations if necessary.
 
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BTW, your mention of virbr0 (virtual bridge) interface makes me wonder if you are in a VM environment perhaps? It is used for NAT.
 
Old 05-16-2017, 07:49 AM   #7
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Deleting an entry and changing eth1 to eth0 was in YAST. Before that, I was using virbr0 or whatever it is, and somehow eth0 changed to eth1
No, not 'somehow'....you changed them.
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Why don't they make it so settings from both NetworkManager and YAST(Wicked) be used at the same time? Some things cannot be done with networkmanager, so I have to change between them with settings over and over? The final one, maybe I miscommunicated.
Nope, sorry. Anything that can be done with wicked can be done with the CLI or network manager. They are all different utilities that do the same thing.
 
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I wonder if you may have had a stale config in /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-*. Start by sharing
Code:
/sbin/ifconfig -a
Code:
ls -l /etc/sysconfig/network/ifcfg-*
and we can advise from there.


The former is used to allow regular users to connect to network environments that may change frequently (eg laptop in various wireless environments), while the latter is for more static network environments (eg desktop or server environments). Having both enabled concurrently can cause issues as they will both attempt to control given network interfaces.

This openSUSE reference guide may be useful to you
https://doc.opensuse.org/documentati....basicnet.html


You should elaborate with respect to what you are trying to achieve. NetworkManager can do most things that regular users might need to do. It even has a dispatcher script facility that can be used to perform quite complex operations if necessary.
I agree with wicked and network manager being separate as to not cause conflict, and that network manager can do most things. Truth in your words.
 
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Nope, sorry. Anything that can be done with wicked can be done with the CLI or network manager. They are all different utilities that do the same thing.
Oh! Sorry for me. I just didn't know how.
 
  


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