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12-04-2020, 09:23 PM
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Member
Registered: Oct 2016
Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
Distribution: Crunchbang++ Openbox
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ferrari
Ok, that shows that CUPS (in particular cupsd) is not active.
This thread may be helpful to you...
https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=216216
The printing service can be checked with...
Code:
systemctl status org.cups.cupsd.service
If necessary, it can be enabled with...
Code:
systemctl enable org.cups.cupsd.service
which will have it start at next boot. To start it immediately, do
Code:
systemctl start org.cups.cupsd.service
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The thread you cited seems to be all over the map about what "might" work - or not.
Code:
[drew@archlabs-drew ~]$ systemctl status org.cups.cupsd.service
Unit org.cups.cupsd.service could not be found.
[drew@archlabs-drew ~]$ sudo systemctl enable org.cups.cupsd.service
[sudo] password for drew:
Failed to enable unit: Unit file org.cups.cupsd.service does not exist.
[drew@archlabs-drew ~]$
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12-04-2020, 09:30 PM
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#17
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LQ Guru
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Auckland, NZ
Distribution: openSUSE Leap
Posts: 5,968
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You're using ArchLabs (ArchLinux derivative) right? Which version? That can influence the required steps.
One way to get that info definitively...
Code:
cat /etc/os-release
Post the output of...
Code:
systemct | grep cups
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12-04-2020, 09:39 PM
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#18
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Member
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Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ferrari
You're using ArchLabs (ArchLinux derivative) right? Which version? That can influence the required steps.
One way to get that info definitively...
Code:
cat /etc/os-release
Post the output of...
Code:
systemct | grep cups
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ArchLabs version is 2020.11.04 (the most recent release)
Code:
[drew@archlabs-drew ~]$ systemctl |grep cups
[drew@archlabs-drew ~]$
But:
Code:
[drew@archlabs-drew ~]$ pacman -Q cups
cups 1:2.3.3op1-1
[drew@archlabs-drew ~]$
Before I waste any more of your time, I'm going to do some more reading and thinking so that I have a little better insight into this and can ask more intelligent questions. Thanks for sticking with me thus far.
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12-04-2020, 10:00 PM
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#19
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LQ Guru
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Auckland, NZ
Distribution: openSUSE Leap
Posts: 5,968
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All good. Not an ArchLabs (ArchLinux) user, so not sure what the CUPS-related service units are called (apart from what is shown via googe)...anyway, there should be some pertinent unit files present...
Code:
systemctl list-unit-files | grep cups
Last edited by ferrari; 12-04-2020 at 10:18 PM.
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12-04-2020, 10:29 PM
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#20
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Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ferrari
All good. Not an ArchLabs (ArchLinux) user, so not sure what the CUPS-related service units are called (apart from what is shown via googe)...anyway, there should be some pertinent unit files present...
Code:
systemctl list-unit-files | grep cups
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Code:
[drew@archlabs-drew ~]$ systemctl list-unit-files | grep cups
cups.path enabled disabled
cups-browsed.service disabled disabled
cups-lpd@.service static -
cups.service enabled disabled
cups-lpd.socket disabled disabled
cups.socket enabled disabled
[drew@archlabs-drew ~]$
From what little I think I have learned, I think I want to use cups.socket so that cups only runs when called by an app that wants to print (e.g. Document Viewer, File Manager, etc)
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12-04-2020, 10:37 PM
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#21
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LQ Guru
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Auckland, NZ
Distribution: openSUSE Leap
Posts: 5,968
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I generally have cups.service (openSUSE Leap) started at boot, but yes, you can rely on socket activation if desired. In any case, make sure the relevant unit files are enabled.
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12-04-2020, 10:38 PM
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#22
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LQ Guru
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Auckland, NZ
Distribution: openSUSE Leap
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12-04-2020, 10:43 PM
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#23
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LQ Guru
Registered: Aug 2016
Location: SE USA
Distribution: openSUSE 24/7; Debian, Knoppix, Mageia, Fedora, OS/2, others
Posts: 6,353
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Two different ethernet connected Brother printers, HL-5470DW and MFC-8910DW, are making me nuts trying to get working on Leap 15.2. After following Brother's rpm installation instructions I tried configuring via YaST, which seems to get everything right except when it comes to actually printing, so I tried with CUPS, which neither can print a test page. I started a mailing list thread that has produced no progress here. This contains terminal output and more of the goings on, including some sort of debugging suggested by http://localhost:631/help/. This is where I'm at:
Code:
# file out
out: ASCII text
# ls -l out
-rw-rw-r-- 1 root root 322 Dec 4 01:51 out
# lpr out
lpr: Unsupported document-format "text/plain"
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12-04-2020, 10:59 PM
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#24
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LQ Guru
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Auckland, NZ
Distribution: openSUSE Leap
Posts: 5,968
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@mrmazda: Why not start your own thread? Different hardware, different distro.
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12-04-2020, 11:17 PM
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LQ Guru
Registered: Aug 2016
Location: SE USA
Distribution: openSUSE 24/7; Debian, Knoppix, Mageia, Fedora, OS/2, others
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Because: - this one is fresh/active
- according to the title language, it's generic
- ferrari is a thread participant who uses Leap
- it's in the hardware rather than the suse/opensuse forum
- my last printer before my Brothers was a Canon MFC
- it seems to be focused on CUPS
- hopefully it will lead to a howto that works
Last edited by mrmazda; 12-04-2020 at 11:22 PM.
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12-05-2020, 03:54 AM
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#26
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LQ Guru
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Auckland, NZ
Distribution: openSUSE Leap
Posts: 5,968
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Your issue is not related to the OP's. The OP is using ArchLabs. I do use openSUSE Leap but not relevant to this thread. I'd be happy to assist with your issue in it's own thread, either here (or in the openSUSE Forums).
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12-05-2020, 04:46 AM
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#27
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Senior Member
Registered: Sep 2004
Distribution: slackware
Posts: 4,736
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Quote:
Originally Posted by llewellen
localhost:631 won't connect on my system.
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Then the cups service isn't running. Getting it running is step 1 towards fixing this.
On Slackware it's easy:
Code:
# chmod +x /etc/rc.d/rc.cups
# /etc/rc.d/rc.cups start
Job done.
Last edited by rkelsen; 12-05-2020 at 04:50 AM.
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12-05-2020, 03:09 PM
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#28
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Registered: Oct 2016
Location: Vancouver Island, Canada
Distribution: Crunchbang++ Openbox
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Embarrassed
Quote:
Originally Posted by ferrari
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I feel like a total idiot. I'm going outside now to find a hole to crawl into until my embarrassment subsides.
My system actually has two menus. There is the Openbox right click menu, which I always use, and there is another jgmenu lauched from an icon in the panel, which I seldom use. I accidently stumbled upon "Printer Management" in that other menu, which led me to the CUPS home page, which had a section on setting up a local printer. It identified my printer and then went through a few set up options. It worked! Both printing and scanning are now working fine. The utility I was whining about not existing in Linux actually does exist.
I would like some horseradish please with the crow I'm about to eat. I'm very sorry to have troubled you with my dullness. Thank you for helping. I will expect to hear laughter here, all the way from NZ.
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12-05-2020, 03:33 PM
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#29
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LQ Guru
Registered: Sep 2003
Location: Auckland, NZ
Distribution: openSUSE Leap
Posts: 5,968
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Well done with getting the printer configuration completed. Don't beat yourself up. Learning is part of the fun. 
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12-05-2020, 03:37 PM
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#30
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LQ Guru
Registered: Aug 2016
Location: SE USA
Distribution: openSUSE 24/7; Debian, Knoppix, Mageia, Fedora, OS/2, others
Posts: 6,353
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ferrari
I'd be happy to assist with your issue in it's own thread, either here (or in the openSUSE Forums).
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Here you go.
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