segueing from my last post here https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...4/#post6410217


antiX-19.4_x64-full.iso LINK https://distrowatch.com/?newsid=11251 on a live USB is loading up just fine but I'm just now starting to see if it will install.

UNFORTUNATELY HOWEVER The installation software from
antiX-19.4_x64-full.iso like the Mint linuxmint-19.3-xfce-64bit live USB onto my laptop process started to work ok, but the computer shuts off just as the install process starts. Hard drive is (a
Seagate BarraCuda 1TB Internal Hard Drive HDD – 2.5 Inch SATA 6 Gb/s 5400 RPM 128MB Cache for PC Laptop)
(This problem is entirely another issue for another thread)

So what are the possible problem(s) anyone cares to suggest ?

anyways my next troubleshoot will be to change the hard drive

So just to clarify
Trying to install antiX-19.4
and
trying to install Mint 19.3

the laptop shuts down

on the live session is it going into some power save mode = check the power setting on the live session that would be my first look at point
Q Keeping the lid open ?
I know seemingly stupid Q and hey seen (read) people do worse.

if it's actually shutting down with both antix and mint I would look at ah what distro is installed on the laptop

OK far fetched but hey this is not standard behavior or problem, so look outside the usual

in the installed distro go to it's bios settings (again) and power settings and scratch around in there again,


staring at the screen with a cuppa and maybe Tux will switch a light on and you will get an idea for what to do,
I do hope you find a solution,

Not much help although a bit more encouragement never goes astray.
but I am hoping it's a something you might have overlooked (easily done) previously.

Thanks for your ideas artytux,


Whenand when

Yes

Just as a note, I don't know if it means anything to you, but it's this hard drive

Seagate BarraCuda 1TB Internal Hard Drive HDD – 2.5 Inch SATA 6 Gb/s 5400 RPM 128MB Cache for PC Laptop)

I tried both the monolithic standard install without any partitions other than a root partition of 65GB

And I'm tried something similar to this custom partition scheme of 4 partitions Linux Tip | Advanced Drive Partitioning Schemes for Linux https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwqP_4vlOP4 999 mb boot, 108,000mb root, 12,800 swap (for each 12 gig of RAM), & the other 800,000MB+ home drive


There's no direct install without the AntiX 19.3 nor Linux Mint 19.3 live desktop loading first.
It goes to about 16% of the install process and just dies! The PC RESETS half ass (or rather 16% ass) https://youtu.be/uNf9-GRr_8M?t=215 , without any sense that its trying to complete the installation.

Q Keeping the lid open ?
I know seemingly stupid Q and hey seen (read) people do worse.
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If it's going into some automatic power save mode, I certainly haven't hardly a clue what the setting is to tweak it or change it or what the settings do much in the bios. It's reset to factory. I did disabled the blank screen screen saver timeout.


There's no distro installed. It's never before used hard drive which with what little brief quick diagnostic in the BIOS and other software found no errors, but the former hard drive was Windows 10 that ended up crashing. I don't know what kind of residual tweaks that Windows install made on the rest of the hardware. I hadn't even turned this PC on for at least a year.





thanks

studpenguin,

I would be inclined to swap the HDD for an SSD, then format it as GPT using Gparted to create 4 partitions including:
sda1 FAT32 esp partition flagged as boot and esp.

Add the 3 additional partitions for root, swap and home, sized as you wish.

Boot from installation media, select Advanced partitioning/Something Else/ whatever and choose sda1 (esp) as bootloader with the other 3 partitions as above.

I would use Linux Mint 21 MATE or MX-21 instead of the older versions you have tried.

Not sure why your laptop shuts down during install. Off the top of my head. Sounds like a hardware problem to me.

I've taken hard drives out of laptops. Installed antiX on them using another laptop after removing it's hard drive and installing the blank one I took out of the problematic laptop.

Change wlan0 to wlan1 or eth1 . Whatever shows up after reinserting the drive back into the problematic laptop. To get wifi going again. Works like a charm.

19 is getting long in the tooth. We are already discussing kernel choices for 32 and 64 bit antiX 23.
Just waiting for Bookworm to unfreeze but Bullseye antiX 22 32 bit full iso is the current release.

will be a good tool to show the differences between the laptops and help identify wifi interface name
. Just wondering. Are you filling out the info requesting during install and hitting the next betton when you say it quits.

Sounds like it could well be the screensaver or power setting kicking in, in which case, move the mouse pointer or hit the space bar; doing it every minute or so prevent it going to sleep; it should show the desktop again, & carry on the installation.

It might be a problem that this little laptop has way too much dust in it so bad that it overheats when the intense installation process happens. I was never good at disassembling laptops and re-assembling enough to totally clean out all the dust from the fans. I usually just take the can of computer duster & blow the nozzle straight in and maybe that never gets everything clean enough. I don't konw. I don't have the eye vision, patience, work space, and time to organize a complete assembly and re-assembly. I'd love to learn though.

why Linux Linux Mint 21 MATE or MX-21?

I explained why https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...os-4175721814/ I did these last experiments with (antiX-19.4_x64-full.iso & Mint linuxmint-19.3-xfce-64bit live USB) instead of these:

antiX-22_x64-full.iso
EndeavourOS_Cassini_22_12.iso
kali-linux-2022.4-installer-amd64.iso
linuxmint-21.1-cinnamon-64bit.iso
manjaro-xfce-21.3.0-220617-linux515.iso
MX-21.3_x64.iso
pclinuxos64-xfce-2022.12.iso
pop-os_22.04_amd64_intel_22.iso

there is something about this "VMX" feature or whatever with the recent developments in a lot of the most current and modern live distro published during the past year.


SO if Mate has something that seems better to you I want to know why.

This below sounds great, but what is so special over XCFE or Cinnamon and the boot startup?

https://linuxmint.com/download.php
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...os-4175721814/

Some BIOS will warn of CPU overheat by beeping 10°C before CPU critical temp is reached. Does the laptop's speaker work?

Have you tried the failsafe boot mode of any of the media you tried?

Just from reading the last few post is there any way that to monitor the system loads and most important the temperatures while on a live session umm Simple Monitor that sort of tool.
from everything written here
I would say the laptop could be struggling with the workload of an install not enough efficient cooling
the laptop could be overheating going into 'Nope too hot to work here installing is very demanding on a little laptop.
You being pressed for with time and feeling that you are not good at computer cleaning is not a problem
So what spend a few dollars and get someone else to clean it for you
There should be no shame in being time poor when you have better things to do.
After all you drive a Linux
Either before or after you get it cleaned up try installing a distro that is completely different and you have no intention of leaving on try one of those extra light could almost fit on a usb distros just to see what gives and happens.
If you don't know what distro to aim for inquire at Distrowatch > search (top of page)

Eventually you will have to do or get someone to clean it for you who has with time and patience to clean that little laptop that is if you intend to keep using it.

That's what I get from re_reading this thread it could be Hardware overheating bang system shuts down during an install.

All we can do is try to give you ideas and the post above are what I'm referring to about with temp etc.

All the Best and Good Luck

If it is down to overheating when installing, you could try using a fan, blowing through the vent, it may keep the temperature down enough to get the installation done - I used to use a fan in this way on an old laptop that would overheat in the Summer, worked 'perfectly' for me.

(But it could also be needing the thermal paste renewing on the CPU.)