no brightness control on my vaio with nvidia driver installed

mrmazda · 03-17-2020, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pierre032020

I have problem with nv driver

According to the logs you shared, you are not using any NV driver.

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as I don't see the totality of page in second screen.

To troubleshoot this we need to see Xorg.0.log produced by your current configuration while you are attempting to use the second screen and display something on it that extends beyond its edge(s).

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Other example, with a movies in tv (second screen) movie is jerky.

This may be a problem that can be solved only by using the NVidia driver or a PC with more graphics power. Please also provide output from

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xrandr

while a movie is being played on the second screen. If it is easier for you, you may attach this output to the head or end of Xorg.0.log before uploading instead of pasting it here.

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I think that the response is in these links :

Those point to an ancient bug report whose content is very likely obsolete or deprecated for current kernels and Xorg.

Pierre032020 · 03-18-2020, 05:23 AM

I found this http://users.skynet.be/thomasvst/linux-on-laptop/
I tested but I have error when I do "make"

mrmazda · 03-18-2020, 06:01 AM

Tested what exactly? What makes you think anything on that 15 year old page will help any part of any current distro release?

Pierre032020 · 03-24-2020, 10:45 AM

Dear, sorry, for my late response.
I don't know.
I'm not comfortable with the command lines,...
On the other hand, I've looked a lot for solutions on the internet, but I'm not good enough to judge if this or that tutorial is obsolete or not.
Most of the time I copy and paste the command lines, either it works or not. I don't necessarily understand what I'm doing even as I try to understand.
I would like that it to work.

mrmazda · 03-24-2020, 06:05 PM

Comment #16 has an unfulfilled request that the possibility of further help depends on.

Pierre032020 · 03-27-2020, 08:29 AM

Hi mrmazda
so, I restore my initial configuration with timeshift

I verified in the driver manager (sorry it's in french) :
https://zupimages.net/up/20/13/4evg.png
It's marked "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" and "X.Org Xserver - Nouveau display driver"
In french "nouveau = new"
So for me it was the "nv driver". I didn't know they were two differents things.

This is with the first connection to second screen (hdmi): https://pastebin.com/V40fZFFP
The full screen is more little that tv. But in display options, I separated screen and here The full screen take a full TV.

Here the new file : https://pastebin.com/BsK9e9nb

xrandr gives :

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xx@xx:~$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3200 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
LVDS-1 connected primary 1280x800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
1280x800 59.94*+ 59.81 59.91
1280x720 60.00 59.99 59.86 59.74
1024x768 60.04 60.00 59.95
960x720 60.00
928x696 60.05
896x672 60.01
1024x576 59.95 59.96 59.90 59.82
960x600 59.93 60.00
960x540 59.96 59.99 59.63 59.82
800x600 60.00 60.32 59.96 56.25
840x525 60.01 59.88
864x486 59.92 59.57
800x512 60.17
700x525 59.98
800x450 59.95 59.82
640x512 60.02
720x450 59.89
700x450 59.96 59.88
640x480 60.00 59.94 59.94
720x405 59.51 58.99
720x400 59.97
684x384 59.88 59.85
680x384 59.80 59.96
640x400 59.88 59.98 59.96
576x432 60.06
640x360 59.86 59.83 59.84 59.32
640x350 59.84
512x384 60.00
512x288 60.00 59.92
480x270 59.63 59.82
400x300 60.32 56.34
432x243 59.92 59.57
320x240 60.05
360x202 59.51 59.13
320x180 59.84 59.32
VGA-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI-1 connected 1920x1080+1280+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 16mm x 9mm
1920x1080i 60.00*+ 50.00 59.94
1920x1080 60.00 50.00 59.94 59.93 24.00 23.98
1680x1050 59.95 59.88
1600x1024 60.17
1400x1050 70.00 59.98
1600x900 59.95 59.82
1280x1024 75.02 60.02
1440x900 59.89
1400x900 59.96 59.88
1280x960 60.00
1368x768 59.88 59.85
1360x768 59.80 59.96
1280x800 59.97 59.81 59.91
1152x864 75.00 75.00 70.00 60.00
1280x720 59.99 59.86 60.00 50.00 59.94 59.74
1024x768 60.04 75.03 70.07 60.00
960x720 75.00 60.00
928x696 75.00 60.05
896x672 75.05 60.01
1024x576 59.95 59.96 59.90 59.82
960x600 59.93 60.00
832x624 74.55
960x540 59.96 59.99 59.63 59.82
800x600 75.00 70.00 65.00 60.00 72.19 75.00 60.32 56.25
840x525 74.96 69.88 60.01 59.88
864x486 59.92 59.57
720x576 50.00
800x512 60.17
700x525 74.76 70.06 59.98
800x450 59.95 59.82
720x480 60.00 59.94
640x512 75.02 60.02
720x450 59.89
700x450 59.96 59.88
640x480 60.00 75.00 72.81 75.00 66.67 60.00 59.94
720x405 59.51 58.99
720x400 70.08
684x384 59.88 59.85
680x384 59.80 59.96
640x400 59.88 59.98
576x432 75.00 75.00 70.00 60.06
640x360 59.86 59.83 59.84 59.32
512x384 75.03 70.07 60.00
512x288 60.00 59.92
416x312 74.66
480x270 59.63 59.82
400x300 72.19 75.12 60.32 56.34
432x243 59.92 59.57
320x240 72.81 75.00 60.05
360x202 59.51 59.13
320x180 59.84 59.32

Two remarks :
_In extended desktop or only on the tv screen (no without laptop screen), when I disconnect, the windows that were in my TV don't automatically transferred to my laptop screen. Is there a solution ?
_With no nvidia driver, so with Pilote X (according to you), I get the feeling that my fan working overtime.

Thank you

mrmazda · 03-27-2020, 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Pierre032020

so, I restore my initial configuration with timeshift

I verified in the driver manager (sorry it's in french) :
https://zupimages.net/up/20/13/4evg.png
It's marked "xserver-xorg-video-nouveau" and "X.Org Xserver - Nouveau display driver"
In french "nouveau = new"
So for me it was the "nv driver". I didn't know they were two differents things.

The upper listed in the image is the optional non-Free NVidia DDX driver. The lower is the optional FOSS DDX. Neither of these is in current use. As shown by the uploaded logs, the default modesetting DDX driver is in use. It does not appear in the driver list because it can neither be installed nor uninstalled, as it is provided by the X server package. Either optional DDX driver, if installed, and not explicitly overridden by a config file, will override use of the default DDX.

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This is with the first connection to second screen (hdmi): https://pastebin.com/V40fZFFP
The full screen is more little that tv. But in display options, I separated screen and here The full screen take a full TV.

Your grammar and/or word choice makes understanding the message you are trying to convey too difficult for me.

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Here the new file : https://pastebin.com/BsK9e9nb

This seems to be the same file, but captured at a later time, after some growth had occurred.

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Code:

$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 3200 x 1080, maximum 8192 x 8192
LVDS-1 connected primary 1280x800+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 0mm x 0mm
   1280x800	59.94*+	59.81	59.91
   1280x720	60.00	59.99	59.86	59.74
   1024x768	60.04	60.00	59.95
   960x720	60.00
   928x696	60.05
   896x672	60.01
   1024x576	59.95	59.96	59.90	59.82
   960x600	59.93	60.00
   960x540	59.96	59.99	59.63	59.82
   800x600	60.00	60.32	59.96	56.25
   840x525	60.01	59.88
   864x486	59.92	59.57
   800x512	60.17
   700x525	59.98
   800x450	59.95	59.82
   640x512	60.02
   720x450	59.89
   700x450	59.96	59.88
   640x480	60.00	59.94	59.94
   720x405	59.51	58.99
   720x400	59.97
   684x384	59.88	59.85
   680x384	59.80	59.96
   640x400	59.88	59.98	59.96
   576x432	60.06
   640x360	59.86	59.83	59.84	59.32
   640x350	59.84
   512x384	60.00
   512x288	60.00	59.92
   480x270	59.63	59.82
   400x300	60.32	56.34
   432x243	59.92	59.57
   320x240	60.05
   360x202	59.51	59.13
   320x180	59.84	59.32
VGA-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
HDMI-1 connected 1920x1080+1280+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 16mm x 9mm
   1920x1080i	60.00*+	 50.00	59.94
   1920x1080	60.00	50.00	59.94	59.93	24.00	23.98
   1680x1050	59.95	59.88
   1600x1024	60.17
   1400x1050	70.00	 59.98
   1600x900	59.95	59.82
   1280x1024	75.02	60.02
   1440x900	59.89
   1400x900	59.96	59.88
   1280x960	60.00
   1368x768	59.88	59.85
   1360x768	59.80	59.96
   1280x800	59.97	59.81	59.91
   1152x864	75.00	75.00	70.00	60.00
   1280x720	59.99	59.86	60.00	50.00	59.94	59.74
   1024x768	60.04	75.03	70.07	60.00
   960x720	75.00	60.00
   928x696	75.00	60.05
   896x672	75.05	60.01
   1024x576	59.95	59.96	59.90 59.82
   960x600	59.93	60.00
   832x624	74.55
   960x540	59.96	59.99	59.63	59.82
   800x600	75.00	70.00	65.00	60.00	72.19	75.00	60.32	56.25
   840x525	74.96	69.88	60.01	59.88
   864x486	59.92	59.57
   720x576	50.00
   800x512	60.17
   700x525	74.76	70.06	59.98
   800x450	59.95	59.82
   720x480	60.00	59.94
   640x512	75.02	60.02
   720x450	59.89
   700x450	59.96	59.88
   640x480	60.00	75.00	72.81	75.00	66.67	60.00	59.94
   720x405	59.51	58.99
   720x400	70.08
   684x384	59.88	59.85
   680x384	59.80	59.96
   640x400	59.88	59.98
   576x432	75.00	75.00	70.00	60.06
   640x360	59.86	59.83	59.84	59.32
   512x384	75.03	70.07	60.00
   512x288	60.00	59.92
   416x312	74.66
   480x270	59.63	59.82
   400x300	72.19	75.12	60.32	56.34
   432x243	59.92	59.57
   320x240	72.81	75.00	60.05
   360x202	59.51	59.13
   320x180	59.84	59.32

Please always use code tags to preserve output formatting in pasting command output, as you see I have done. Using the [ # ] icon above the input window can assist in doing so.

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Two remarks :
_In extended desktop or only on the tv screen (no without laptop screen), when I disconnect, the windows that were in my TV don't automatically transferred to my laptop screen. Is there a solution ?

I believe there should be but I don't know what it might be. Possibly switching away from X and back might help (Ctrl-Alt-F3 then Ctrl-Alt-F7). Possibly disconnect needs to be literal cable disconnect rather than simply powering the external display off.

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_With no nvidia driver, so with Pilote X (according to you), I get the feeling that my fan working overtime.

I don't know what Pilote X is. I expect more heat generation and thus need for more fan flow when the NVidia GPU is in use. It's possible the non-free NVidia driver would be more efficient and thus cause less heat generation.

Shadow_7 · 03-27-2020, 12:06 PM

I had a vaio in the early 2000's. It needed SonyPI to adjust the backlight. Although that never worked for my model at the time. Package sensors-applet seems to have sonypi listed. And some support in mate it seems. Not sure how things have / have not changed in nearly 20 years though.

Pierre032020 · 03-27-2020, 12:29 PM

So, there are 3 drivers.
But as these pictures :
https://zupimages.net/up/20/13/k2e9.png
https://zupimages.net/up/20/13/hkdq.png
When I open my driver management software, the "open-source" driver is already selected and the buttons are grayed out (not selectable)
I can select nvidia driver and the buttons are black (selectable).
For me it's open-source driver that working. But I don't understand all. If you say it's a third driver that works, I believe you.

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I don't know what Pilote X is

Sorry, "pilote" is " driver".

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I expect more heat generation and thus need for more fan flow when the NVidia GPU is in use. It's possible the non-free NVidia driver would be more efficient and thus cause less heat generation.

So it's best to use nvidia driver, but i have my first problem : no brightness control with (fn+f5/f6) and dashboard and max luminosity.

what should I do?

Hi shadow 7, what can I do with sonypi

Thank you.

mrmazda · 03-27-2020, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pierre032020

So, there are 3 drivers.

Actually there are two others previously unmentioned, but both are crude, optional fallbacks, most often used for repairing broken good ones, or with small volume brands of GPUs that don't have a dedicated driver's or modesetting's support.

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For me it's open-source driver that working. But I don't understand all. If you say it's a third driver that works, I believe you.

There's no need to. In your "new" pastebin link in your comment #21 you can see a large number of lines that include modeset(0):. Those lines are reporting what is happening with the DDX driver in use.

The Mint driver manager is mismanaging. It's purpose is apparently only to let you choose between optional drivers, without mentioning or taking into account the default driver, which cannot be installed or uninstalled without rendering X completely useless, since it non-optionally accompanies the X server.

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So it's best to use nvidia driver, but i have my first problem : no brightness control with (fn+f5/f6) and dashboard and max luminosity. what should I do?

I'm almost out of ideas. My experience with Vaio laptops is limited to figuring out how to make X work at all. I never touched on the subject of keyboard brightness control while I worked on one.

Last idea: ask in NVidia's own forum for help.

Shadow_7 · 03-28-2020, 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Pierre032020

Hi shadow 7, what can I do with sonypi

Thank you.

Well 20 years ago it was a executable that you passed parameters to adjust your displays backlight. (but never worked for my model). It had a one line tcl script for a slider to adjust it though. Much like we $( echo ### > /sys/class/backlight/*/brightness ) today to adjust brightness when things like xbacklight fail to do that adjustment. Or whatever slider is in whatever GUI environment (WM/DE) exists.