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Old 05-27-2011, 08:53 PM   #1
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NewEgg DIY kit for server


My current desktop has lost its place as my serer due to space concerns and very crappy tower space. (My secondary drive is being held in position by the memory and pci cards ). So I need to get a new set. Is this a good setup for a simple data server?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/ComboB...t=Combo.638451
Hard Drives:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...scrollFullInfo

It's going to have 3 (possibly 4 depending on if I can get good over time this summer) of the 1TB hard drives in a raid 5 configuration (3 year warranty and parity should give me good protection.

Any suggestions or comments are appreciated.
 
Old 05-27-2011, 09:02 PM   #2
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What do you want to do with that machine? If it is a simple file-server for home use, this machine is pure overkill. I do that with a small Intel Atom machine with 1GB RAM. It is more than sufficient to act as file-server for 12 clients that only occasionally access that machine (Samba+FTP), additionally I run a web-server (Apache), a rsync-server, SSH and pyload on that machine, and mostly this thing is idling (currently using 114MB of RAM). Since this machine is running 24/7 it saves a lot of money using such low-energy hardware instead of a full blown desktop machine that you linked to.
 
Old 05-27-2011, 09:15 PM   #3
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I know its going to be a file server using samba+ftp (both for me on my local router and on a hamachi group). It might run web-server (I guess mySQL is assumed in this). It would be an ssh server (mostly for tunneling, might add a second nic to connect to college network so i can tunnel out while in labs). Maybe a git server as well as I'm a CSE student. (no compiling though, my main laptop is an i5 with 4GB of ram, much better for compiling). I might also run an IRC serer and possibly armagetron dedicated server.

If the set up i have is overkill, any suggestions on what to get (possibly newegg links?) thanks in advance

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Old 05-27-2011, 09:28 PM   #4
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Sorry, no newegg link, since I would build that machine myself, I would go for a cheap case, an Intel Atom or AMD Zacate board. I don't know about Armagetron, but if you don't have too many clients on that machine I think you should be fine with 2GB RAM. I also would use a PSU with high efficiency. This will be a little bit more expensive as the system you linked to, but I think that you will save money due to lower power consumption in the end.
 
Old 05-28-2011, 01:01 PM   #5
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I'd avoid the linked system...I've never heard anything good about rosewill power supplies.

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I also would use a PSU with high efficiency. This will be a little bit more expensive as the system you linked to, but I think that you will save money due to lower power consumption in the end.
+1, I'd go for a high efficiency power supply. But even for the newegg system, I wouldnt get a standard ATX high efficiency power supply-

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Like all machinery, every power supply achieves best efficiency over a certain range, usually at 40~80% of full capacity. With most ATX12V power supplies rated at a minimum of ~400W these days, there's not much hope for them to achieve their maximum efficiency with systems that pull under 50W at idle and barely 100W at maximum load. The majority of mini-ITX PCs fall into this category as do many efficiency-optimized micro-ATX systems designed for use as media PCs or file servers.

Even modestly priced DC/DC converters offer very high efficiency, often 90% or higher, and AC/DC adapters of 60W~150W that achieve 90% efficiency are not uncommon. Such a combination for a PC with modest power demand can often draw less power than conventional ATX12V PSUs, even those rated for 80 Plus. Why? Because the vast majority of high effiency ATX12V PSUs are rated for 500W or higher; at 40W, many struggle to make 70% efficiency and barely reach 75% at 65W. In contrast, an efficient DC/DC converter can be used with an efficient AC/DC adapter of just the right power rating to achieve ~80% and better efficiency throughout the actual power range of the low power computer.
http://www.silentpcreview.com/Winmate_DD-24AX

I'd get something like the Winmate DD-24AX DC-DC for those reasons.

Even the newegg linked system with 4-5 HDDs would be under 130watts power consumption, and if you went for Intel Atom/AMD Fusion then it wouldnt even break 80 watts @ absolute max load.
 
Old 05-28-2011, 03:43 PM   #6
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Might look at something like a qnap nas. Many nas run less watts and provide quality nas performance.
 
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Might look at something like a qnap nas. Many nas run less watts and provide quality nas performance.
But won't run gameservers.
 
Old 05-29-2011, 03:22 PM   #8
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"Is this a good setup for a simple data server"

"I might also run an IRC serer and possibly armagetron dedicated server"

The OP is welcome to view all of their choices and decide.
 
Old 06-11-2011, 02:34 PM   #9
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Thank you for your input. I know my needs for a server kinda went from basic to all in one. I'm hoping to compile a list of what the "final" uses are. (I'll list what I am at at the end of this post)
As for hard ware, I am scraping the DIY that I put there as I need 5 internal HDD bays (1 for main server and 4 1TB using Raid 5 for parity. [3 HDD if needed due to money woes]). I'm probably going to be getting a little better case that has better airflow as I don't really want to cut the side to put in a fan.
Anywho, I'm getting help from coworker about what to do. Also, I probably won't get enough money until mid to late July (since 50-70% is going into a savings account). So don't expect much out of me until around mid July when I can get a better idea on what I'm able to get. I might still through some links into here with ideas.

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List of services my server will host:
File Storage = Using samba for windows clients
FTP          = Ability for Downloading files
SSH          = Same as ftp and other obvious reasons
Music        = mtdaap so that it can be streamed for users
             = maybe a internet radio setup
Video        = Going to be a headless vlc for streaming
               Probably going to make a custom webpage to allow requests and etc
Apache       = obvious
irc          = Need a chat server on campus, teamspeak lacks in standard chat room
Hamachi      = obvious
Torrent      = a daemon for web gui access
Armegetron   = server for my game club
Firewall?    = if I can figure out how to set one up behind the router
DNS          = Custom as this whole DHS takedowns might start taking down sites
Repository   = Debian or Ubuntu repository as my school doesn't have one
I might add more.

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Old 07-03-2011, 02:42 AM   #10
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I'm trying to select a power supply, however I don't understand where there is a number next to "SATA power connector". If I have 5 sata hard drives and 1 dvd drive, do I need one that has 6 sata power connectors or do I only need like 2-3 since there are multiple connectors on each cable?
 
Old 07-03-2011, 02:55 AM   #11
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There are sata powersupply adapters which may come with the drives.
 
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If it is A SATA DVD-drive you will need six SATA-plugs. But as EDDY1 already stated, you can get cheap adapters for the older PATA plugs to make them SATA-plugs.
 
Old 07-03-2011, 05:10 AM   #13
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I'm trying to select a power supply, however I don't understand where there is a number next to "SATA power connector". If I have 5 sata hard drives and 1 dvd drive, do I need one that has 6 sata power connectors or do I only need like 2-3 since there are multiple connectors on each cable?
The number of SATA power connectors (or molex for that matter) is the total number, not the number of cables.

Assuming that your HDDs and DVD all use SATA power connectors (dotn assume SATA drive = SATA power connector) unless you want to use molex-> SATA converters you will need 6 SATA power connectors.

BTW, besides molex-> SATA converters, there are also molex splitters. You wont need 6 power connectors in total if you dont mind using splitters.
 
  


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