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gech00 04-24-2013 02:56 AM

newbie -- feodora onto a DellDimension -- finding no devices
Hi, Im trying to resurrect a Dell Dimension 5000 that someone had thrown away. It seems that the CD drive is not connecting to Processor since it won't take that as boot device. Meanwhile I have successfully booted from USB-stick with feodora 17 on it.
However up and running I dont find any devices at all; for the ethernet I think there is a LOM (connector goes directly to motherboard), but I cant find that as a device (em-0 ? , eth0 ? ) where should /could I look to find Hw.

Then, I cant either find out how to mount the USB for file copying, even though that Hw obviously works since I once booted from it.

Thx for any help


michaelk 04-24-2013 08:50 AM

Welcome to LinuxQuestions.

Check the BIOS configuration to verify the ports are enabled. I believe that the CDROM drive is an IDE device. It is possible the drive is broken but check the date cable to make sure it is connected and secure etc.

Did you install Fedora to the hard drive or are you still running from USB?

gech00 04-24-2013 02:09 PM

Yes I have put the feodora onto the HardDrive so I boot from that nowadays

I also have checked the CDROM cabling and actually changed the drive to a spare I have with no difference.
However it actually blinks while booting but is not recognized as a boot device. Putting it as sole boot device
the boot procedure complains that there is no boot device avail.

Im just now not in the place where I have the PC so I cannot experiment. Would it be in the boot menues where
Bios would give information about "ports" availability ?

Br Georg

michaelk 04-24-2013 04:24 PM

Looking at the BIOS configuration settings will show whether or not the ethernet port is enabled. Also post the output of the command lspci and lsmod. This will tell what chipset the ethernet hardware is using as well as if the correct module is loading.

How did you burn the CD/DVD?

gech00 04-25-2013 02:40 AM

The CD
The CD was actually the XP delivered with another Dell I have, I have the notion that they are not Hw marked or dependent. However that was for a Laptop. will be back with more info for lspci and lsmod when I meet with the machine again.

gech00 04-27-2013 04:54 PM

Hi Tnx a lot michaelk,

of cause it was BIOS, I had removed on board NIC while removing the PXE, so no network dev. was active in BIOS.

It woke nicely and without any more work for my part.t

Did also, now when connected, succeed in installing the httpd = Apache server demon, that in version 2.2, but when yum install php
I got php5 which Im not happy about, my development has been for php4, so I guess I have to figure out how to switch between then.
Then I need to figure out how the httpd is attached to the net, guess it gets out there when I issue #service httpd start,
but on what port :80 guessingly ? then like to get onto it via the loopback i/f in some way

And the USB I did find all right. So for now most things are confused but on a higher level :)

Need to figure out how I and when I get public with the httpd, i.e. when can someone get onto my server, and where are my .htaccess files (or equivalent) and what kind of firewall protection do I need, and how do I get an URL and connect to my server.

Tnx again

gech00 04-28-2013 04:18 AM

Hello again,

I forgot I have not gotten any contact with the CD-drive, it would be good if it could be resurrected.

cannot see what in the lspci would be that ?

The CD drive is connecxted to what I would assume is the IDE bus, a broad grey cable, I have tried to shift position
on the bus to the furthest out from second furthest, no improve.

br georg

michaelk 04-28-2013 07:15 AM

Make sure the red strip on the cable aligns with pin one on the motherboard connector as well as the CDROM drive. From lspci you can see the IDE controller but not the drive itself. The drive might be broken.

Once you start httpd you should be able to see the default page in a web browser at http://localhost. You will need configure the firewall if running to allow http traffic to access the server on a network. If you have a router then you will need to forward port 80 traffic to your server's IP address if you want traffic outside your LAN to access your web server.
However, your ISP may block port 80 traffic.

gech00 04-28-2013 07:33 AM

CD drive
Hi again,

well I dont think the drive is broke, have switched to another without any differnce

however: find no red strip on cable, ( though the cable is heavily cut into piece-cords, something like 8-10 strands
before being squeezed into a rubber hose, could be that the strands are rearranged.)

what name would I look for for IDE device in the lspci (sorry for not posting output, on other machine
when communicating, having my password here)

tnx again

gech00 04-28-2013 07:38 AM

httpd seem to start quietly, no error message

# service httpd start

I can see in system processes that the httpd is in the process list

AND yes; thanks michaelk !

I have now successfully actually reached the server, over the eth, from external host. TNX !

So now only kicking PHP4 alive and get it go over ODBC to my MIMER SQL server, which I also need to kick alive.

gech00 04-28-2013 07:42 AM

Red line found on cable; yes there is a red line on the very edge of the band cable inward towards the machine

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