Radeon 9000 rv200 series
Prices take a big jump for 9500 and above, rv300 series.
Xorg's ATI/Radeon driver officially supports these, but does better with rv300, a much improved technology, than rv200.

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Well this falls under the what the hell category. Why is Linux seeing a different MB? I double check my receipt, the box, the owners manual and the UPC label and all listed A7N8X. Found nothing on MB until I pulled off a quality control sticker and..wait for it..NF61S-M2B-TE.
https://www.memory4less.com/images/p...1S-M2TE-lg.jpg

That looks identical to my MB. The specs, who knows as even my ASUS owners manual pic doesn't look the same and wrong # of slots and says 3GB ram max, but has 3 slots in manual, mine has 2.

Maybe this explains the driver issue, if not and I really have 4GB ram capacity that's an option. Also, Asus manual may be wrong again and I have a PCI-e slot? Much easier to get a graphics card in that format I think. Never seen anything like this before. Maybe Biostar was part of Asus/Nvidia some time?

Now who knows what the MB real specs are since the ASUS owner's manual is worthless and incorrect.

Here are the specs of the Biostar NF61S=M2B-TE:




Socket AM2


AMD 64Architecture enables 32 and 64 bit

CPU


AMDAthlon 64 /Athlon 64FX / Athlon 64 X2


computing



/ Sempron processors

Supports Hyper Transport andCool= n=Quiet

FSB


Supports up to 1GHz Bandwidth




Support HyperTransport



Chipset


GeForce 6100-405


ITE 8716F

Environment Control initiatives,


Super I/O


Provides themost commonly usedlegacy

H/W Monitor

Super I/O functionality.

Fan Speed Controller
Low Pin Count Interface


ITE's "Smart Guardian" function

DIMM Slots x 2


Dual Channel Mode DDR2memorymodule

Main


Each DIMM supports 256/512MB/1GB/2GB


Supports DDR2 400 / 533 / 667 / 800

Memory


DDR2



Registered DIMM and ECC DIMM is not supported


Max Memory Capicity 4GB
















Graphics


GeForce 6100-405


MaxSharedVideo Memory is 256MB

IDE


Integrated IDEController


Ultra DMA 33 / 66 / 100 / 133 Bus Master Mode














supports PIO Mode 0~4

SATA II


IntegratedSerial ATA Controller


Datatransfer rates up to 3.0 Gb/s.



SATA Version 2.0specificationcompliant.










LAN


Realtek 8201CL PHY


10 / 100 Mb/s Auto-Negotiation


















Half / Full duplexcapability


Sound


ALC662


5.1 channels audio out




High-DefinitionAudiosupport















PCI slot


x2


Supports PCI expansion cards




Slots


PCI Express x16 slot


x1



Supports PCI-E x16 expansioncards



PCI Express x 1 slot


x1


Supports PCI-E x1 expansioncards




On Board


Floppyconnector


x1


Eachconnector supports 2 Floppy drives


Connector


IDE Connector


x1


Eachconnector supports 2 IDE device


SATA2 Connector


x2


Eachconnector supports 1 SATA devices



Front Panel Connector


x1


Supports front panel facilities



Front Audio Connector


x1


Supports front panel audio function

There's no AGP on that motherboard. The white expansion slots are PCI and the green PCIe. So the HD 3450 should do nicely.

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These things are completely wrong ore belongs to another elder computer! It's possible that your computer case originally had contained an Asus A7N8X-UAYZ which was later replaced with the Biostar NF61S-M2B-TE.

See the differences between Socket A (e.g. on Asus A7N8X-UAYZ) and Socket AM2 (e.g. on your Biostar NF61S-M2B-TE):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_A
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Socket_AM2

Glad to see progress here. I ordered a Radeon HD3450 256MB for $6. That should be a massive improvement over my 128MB onboard shared memory, not that I needed it but will be much nicer and cheap. And now that I know the correct MB, it looks like I can upgrade to 4GB ram from 2GB, also for a few dollars. This will really bring new life to an already fast(on Linux) old computer.

Arnulf- I bought all the components for this computer, including the case, still have the receipt and it shows ASUS A7N8X, so does the box. There is no chance any of this stuff was pre-instaled anywhere. I never even owned or bought a Biostar MB, but now by default own one. This is a mystery. I have the serial # of the MB as listed on the box if there is a way to check but yeah, 100% sure this MB came in my ASUS box. Who knows, odd.

Thanks for the help everyone and I look forward to installing the new card this weekend. I assume Linux will auto-detect the new card or do I have to enter something manually? I'm also assuming that since AMD/ATI seem to be more code friendly to open source that maybe there is a better driver for the HD3450 than the generic one used for my on-board graphics?

First, remove any entries (e.g. in grub.cfg) which disable kernel modesetting and check /lib/firmware. It must contain a subfolder /radeon with files *.bin in it.

Check dmesg output for lines starting with [drm]. For a Radeon HD3450, first related line shoud be something like:
[drm] radeon kernel modesetting enabled.

Well, got a new in box Radeon HD4350 installed and it does the exact same thing as the Radeon HD3450, red is orange, blue is aqua and green is black. The clarity of print is very good. Still, 256MB of on board shared graphics look 100X better than either video card. Its no longer possible for it being my system or card error, has to be a Linux issue or compatibility. I bought the ATI cards as they were suppose to be a good fit for Linux. My experience has been poor.

Device-1: AMD RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4330] vendor: VISIONTEK driver: radeon
v: kernel bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 1002:955f
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: ati,radeon unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa
compositor: marco tty: N/A
OpenGL: renderer: AMD RV710 (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.4.0-131-generic LLVM 12.0.0)
v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes

display
description: VGA compatible controller
product: RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4330]
vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
physical id: 0
bus info: pci@0000:02:00.0
version: 00
width: 64 bits
clock: 33MHz
capabilities: pm pciexpress msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
configuration: driver=radeon latency=0
resources: irq:24 memory:e0000000-efffffff memory:fdce0000-fdceffff ioport:bc00(size=256) memory:c0000-dffff
me@Random:~$ lsmod | grep radeon
radeon 1474560 12
i2c_algo_bit 16384 1 radeon
ttm 106496 1 radeon
drm_kms_helper 184320 1 radeon
drm 495616 9 drm_kms_helper,radeon,ttm
me@Random:~$ glxinfo -B
name of display: :0
display: :0 screen: 0
direct rendering: Yes
Extended renderer info (GLX_MESA_query_renderer):
Vendor: X.Org (0x1002)
Device: AMD RV710 (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.4.0-131-generic, LLVM 12.0.0) (0x955f)
Version: 21.2.6
Accelerated: yes
Video memory: 512MB
Unified memory: no
Preferred profile: core (0x1)
Max core profile version: 3.3
Max compat profile version: 3.0
Max GLES1 profile version: 1.1
Max GLES[23] profile version: 3.0
Memory info (GL_ATI_meminfo):
VBO free memory - total: 511 MB, largest block: 511 MB
VBO free aux. memory - total: 1021 MB, largest block: 1021 MB
Texture free memory - total: 511 MB, largest block: 511 MB
Texture free aux. memory - total: 1021 MB, largest block: 1021 MB
Renderbuffer free memory - total: 511 MB, largest block: 511 MB
Renderbuffer free aux. memory - total: 1021 MB, largest block: 1021 MB
Memory info (GL_NVX_gpu_memory_info):
Dedicated video memory: 512 MB
Total available memory: 1533 MB
Currently available dedicated video memory: 511 MB
OpenGL vendor string: X.Org
OpenGL renderer string: AMD RV710 (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.4.0-131-generic, LLVM 12.0.0)
OpenGL core profile version string: 3.3 (Core Profile) Mesa 21.2.6
OpenGL core profile shading language version string: 3.30
OpenGL core profile context flags: (none)
OpenGL core profile profile mask: core profile

OpenGL version string: 3.0 Mesa 21.2.6
OpenGL shading language version string: 1.30
OpenGL context flags: (none)

OpenGL ES profile version string: OpenGL ES 3.0 Mesa 21.2.6
OpenGL ES profile shading language version string: OpenGL ES GLSL ES 3.00

Both Radeon HD3450 and Radeon HD4350 are not generally problematic with Linux. I'm using both cards in different old systems without any errors or color mismatch. Therefore it looks like a compatibility issue with your system and Radeon HD cards, or something goes wrong during driver load. I don't now anything about performance of your distro kernel which necessarily uses "late KMS". I'm using Slackware with self compiled vanilla kernels with "early KMS" included. Compiling a kernel that fits to your hardware may be a solution.

Yeah that was one of the options I was thinking about. I just upgraded to 4GB ram with no issue so I have more distro options now. Mint should be well rounded. There are PPA driver sites that claim to have drivers that work, not familiar with them, some say PPA's are unsafe, but the driver or a kernal issue seems most likely and more complex than I wanted.

This is one of them: https://launchpad.net/~oibaf/+archiv...aphics-drivers

That both 3450 and 4350 work similarly improperly for you, yet for me and others with same or related ATI models correctly, suggests strongly a configuration or hardware or compatibility problem with your PC. My 3450 and my 4650 work fine with multiple versions of Mageia, openSUSE, Debian, Fedora and others, all using both radeon and modesetting FOSS drivers exclusively.

Could it be there is some residue from having used the onboard NForce/NVidia graphics that still hasn't yet been eradicated?

What doesshow?

An easy (and cheap) solution for this "old computer" is to switch to another mainboard with following specs:

• Socket AM2 XOR Socket AM2+: This enables reuse of your AMD Athlon64 X2 5000+ and its cooler.
• No chipset integrated graphics device!
• PCIe x16 slot: Both Radeon HD3450 & HD4350 should work on a Socket AM2 or Socket AM2+ mainboard.
• 4 DIMM slots for DDR2 RAM modules: This gives you 6 GiB RAM by reuse of your 2× 1 GiB + 2× 2 GiB DDR2 RAM modules.

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I've been looking at the Bios settings, especially PCI-e, once again for a solution. I now get 2 devices listed:
Graphics: Device-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6100 nForce 405] vendor: Biostar Microtech Intl Corp
driver: nouveau v: kernel bus ID: 00:0d.0 chip ID: 10de:03d1
Device-2: AMD RV710/M92 [Mobility Radeon HD 4330] vendor: VISIONTEK driver: radeon
v: kernel bus ID: 02:00.0 chip ID: 1002:955f
Display: x11 server: X.Org 1.20.13 driver: ati,nouveau,radeon
unloaded: fbdev,modesetting,vesa compositor: marco tty: N/A
OpenGL: renderer: AMD RV710 (DRM 2.50.0 / 5.4.0-131-generic LLVM 12.0.0)
v: 3.3 Mesa 21.2.6 compat-v: 3.0 direct render: Yes

The other result:
ls -Ggh /etc/X11/xorg*
ls: cannot access '/etc/X11/xorg*': No such file or directory

What is a model # of this MB and I will look. Would prefer to find a fix here as it seems it is a glitch somewhere and if found, a lot easier, but definitely a good idea/option if I need to take that route, thanks.

Some old settings may very well be an issue as the more I read about this, there should usually be no bios changes for installation on a pci-e card. The MB should recognize it automatically. That leaves a software issue in a driver or an odd bios setting I can't find.