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Old 01-25-2023, 03:56 AM   #1
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Need enclosure for hard drives. Does Icy Box IB-3740-C31 work with linux?


I'm looking for cheap and smart solution to replace my current home server (CentOS on common PC, some disks, samba, apache and others, no big load).
My idea is to use thin client (Dell Wyse 5060, four 2.4GHz cores, 8MB Ram, disk replaced with 128GB SSD) plus external JBOD enclosure with four disks (two in raid 1 for important things and the rest as free use storage)

I already have Such Wyse client, that's the point. So, looking for (as stated - cheap) HDD enclosure.
I found Icy Box IB-3740-C31. It looks to be just hardware interface (multiple SATA to USB-C) and I don't see a reason to not to work under linux, but - I asked the support... And the only response is "we don't support Linux. We don’t know how it work on Linux.".
Probably it works, but it will be nice to know surely before I buy. Maybe someone have such experience?


I guess that if it works I can just create soft raid on my OS, I do not expect hardware raid controller in that device.
 
Old 01-25-2023, 08:14 PM   #2
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I have no experience with that particular device, but, as it does is connect the HDD to the computer, its function is at a level well below that of the OS. I would expect it to work just fine.

Just my two cents.
 
Old 01-25-2023, 10:40 PM   #3
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This might be worth a read - especially the last 2 entries.
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(two in raid 1 for important things and the rest as free use storage)
I hope you're aware RAID1 (any RAID) is a resiliency solution, not a backup solution.
 
Old 01-26-2023, 04:25 AM   #4
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Individual access to drives, over one single point of failure, the cable - if you are happy with that, it'll likely work on Linux, all it's doing is giving connections to each drive.

However, I would just use individual external drives myself, if I was interested in such, & it would be a lot cheaper.
 
Old 01-26-2023, 10:42 AM   #5
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andrkac,


Review from a Slackware user:

Overall I'm really pleased with the ICY BOX, which does exactly what I wanted and performs beyond expectations. I'd say performance is as good as connecting directly to SATA, at least it was for the tests I've show below.

I'm dropping a star because I had a nightmare fitting the drives, due to the alignment of the backplane against the case. This was resolved by losening all the case and motherboard screws (probably voiding my warranty), installing the drives, then tightening the screws again, with the drives still fitted while I also held the backplane in place. Subsequent hot-swap drive installations and removals have been fine, but I don't expect to have to mess with stuff like that straight out of the box.

The only other minor gripes I have, which don't affect my given score are: (1) there is some fan noise when it spin on settings 2 or 3. It doesn't really bother me and you can switch speed between auto and manual 1,2,3 anyway. (2) I did knock the USB lead out of my computer once, which caused the RAID to stop. Fortunately, I didn't lose any data. It's not really a fault of the ICY BOX, but more to do with the fact that the design of the USB Type C connector is pretty naff.

I'm using this with Slackware Linux, as a disk-based Amanda backup virtual tape archive. I have 3 disks configured as MD RAID5, with a LUKS encrypted LVM on top, with one ext4 LV for the tapes, plus some unused space for future use (as well as the additional drive bay, which is mostly unoccupied).

My motherboard is an ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI), which supports USB 3.2.

I purchased 3 new 4TB WD Red Pro WD4003FFBX drives at the same time as this and before migrating everything, I decided to run some basic speed tests to compare my old SATA-connected drives (ancient WD BLACK WD1002FAEX) /dev/sd[bcd], against the new Reds, connected to the ICY BOX as /dev/sd[fgh]. I'm using --direct to get a better idea of actual throughput, without buffering.

Here are some tests using hdparm - I'm sure there are better test tools, but this was good enough for me. The internal disks are the first three results and the ICY disks are the last 3 (which actually perform better than the old local disks):

$ sudo /sbin/hdparm --direct -t /dev/sd[bcdfgh]

/dev/sdb:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 380 MB in 3.02 seconds = 126.02 MB/sec

/dev/sdc:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 362 MB in 3.00 seconds = 120.65 MB/sec

/dev/sdd:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 426 MB in 3.01 seconds = 141.67 MB/sec

/dev/sdf:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 714 MB in 3.01 seconds = 237.40 MB/sec

/dev/sdg:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 742 MB in 3.01 seconds = 246.88 MB/sec

/dev/sdh:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 752 MB in 3.00 seconds = 250.52 MB/sec
antowen@thing:~$


Here are tests with the new disks swapped (the Reds are sdb, c and d now as they're on SATA and the old disks are on the ICY BOX), showing no significan speed difference between SATA and USB speed:

Code:
sudo /sbin/hdparm --direct -t /dev/sd[bcdefg]

/dev/sdb:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 720 MB in 3.00 seconds = 239.79 MB/sec

/dev/sdc:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 752 MB in 3.00 seconds = 250.26 MB/sec

/dev/sdd:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 760 MB in 3.00 seconds = 253.31 MB/sec

/dev/sde:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 374 MB in 3.00 seconds = 124.55 MB/sec

/dev/sdf:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 392 MB in 3.02 seconds = 129.96 MB/sec

/dev/sdg:
Timing O_DIRECT disk reads: 438 MB in 3.01 seconds = 145.57 MB/sec


I only tested the slower disks in parallel and they gave the same results as individuals. I forgot to test the faster disks.
Also, look at the reviews from Linux users on:
https://www.amazon.co.uk/External-En.../dp/B07G6X524P
 
Old 01-28-2023, 06:07 AM   #6
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too much work, no time to read answers...
Thank all of you for them. As I thought it should work.


Quote:
Originally Posted by syg00 View Post
This might be worth a read - especially the last 2 entries.I hope you're aware RAID1 (any RAID) is a resiliency solution, not a backup solution.
In theory I know it, but - why? Why I can't treat it as backup solution? Ok, it won't cover all possible data fails, but for single disk crash it is enough in my opinion?

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Originally Posted by beachboy2 View Post
andrkac,
Review from a Slackware user:
My motherboard is an ASUS TUF GAMING X570-PLUS (WI-FI), which supports USB 3.2.
I've checked that my thin client has USB 3.0 only.
Does it still make sense?
I don't have very hard tasks for those disks, copying files mainly.
 
  


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