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Old 06-27-2012, 03:21 AM   #1
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Need an AGP 8x video card that works with Linux as well as Windows 7


My MB has 3 PCI slots and 1 AGP 8x slot. Does anybody know of an AGP 8x video card with a DVI or HDMI output that will work for Fedora 13 as well as Windows 7?
 
Old 06-27-2012, 01:05 PM   #2
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Pretty much any Nvidia or ATI card like that will be supported. If you want to use proprietary drivers Nvidia might be a better choice. AGP is pretty old, so this is strictly legacy stuff.
 
Old 06-27-2012, 01:17 PM   #3
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the old agp cards from 2000 to 2005
if it is an old gforce 5 and older
forget fedora
fedora is way too now
and so is win7 for a gf5 and older


now the version of xorg in cent6 will run the old nvidia 96 and 173 driver

as to fedora 13
DO NOT USE IT it went END of LIFE on 2011-06-04
it has NOT received any security fixes for OVER a year now


on an older computer i would look at centOS6.2
 
Old 06-27-2012, 01:21 PM   #4
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the bigger trick is going to be getting windows 7 to ever RUN on a machine that old, i seriously doubt that the machine is going to support enough ram to make windows 7 functional, let alone have powerful enough CPU. is there any reason why windows XP won't work?
 
Old 06-28-2012, 04:05 AM   #5
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My MB has 3 PCI slots and 1 AGP 8x slot. Does anybody know of an AGP 8x video card with a DVI or HDMI output that will work for Fedora 13 as well as Windows 7?
Lots of them do, but its pointless posting a 'what card should I get' for AGP now. Check what you actually can get, then ask whats the best of them. You probably wont have many choices....

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the old agp cards from 2000 to 2005
AGP- 1996 release date, well on the market by 1997, last card were released mid 2007 (nVidia) late 2008 (ATI/AMD)

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if it is an old gforce 5 and older
forget fedora
fedora is way too now
and so is win7 for a gf5 and older
AFAIK Fedora, even the absolute newest versions, will run just fine with AGP cards.

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as to fedora 13
DO NOT USE IT it went END of LIFE on 2011-06-04
it has NOT received any security fixes for OVER a year now
+1. Please dont use old unsupported versions of OSes.

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the bigger trick is going to be getting windows 7 to ever RUN on a machine that old, i seriously doubt that the machine is going to support enough ram to make windows 7 functional, let alone have powerful enough CPU. is there any reason why windows XP won't work?
I think you've underestimated what sort of hardawre you can get with older AGP systems. There were lots of dual core, 4GB max RAM sysems with AGP slots.

Mind you, I wouldnt be running windows 7 on any old AGP system either, even if it was supported.
 
Old 06-28-2012, 10:57 AM   #6
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Lots of them do, but its pointless posting a 'what card should I get' for AGP now. Check what you actually can get, then ask whats the best of them. You probably wont have many choices....
yep, ebay is a good start, or amazon

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AGP- 1996 release date, well on the market by 1997, last card were released mid 2007 (nVidia) late 2008 (ATI/AMD)
4-5 years in modern technology is a long time.

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AFAIK Fedora, even the absolute newest versions, will run just fine with AGP cards.
indeed, though you might not get all the fanciest eye candy effects to run, and 3d acceleration might be a bit slow, but it's older hardware, what would you expect even with older software

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+1. Please dont use old unsupported versions of OSes.
indeed, you are just asking for trouble there.

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I think you've underestimated what sort of hardawre you can get with older AGP systems. There were lots of dual core, 4GB max RAM sysems with AGP slots.

Mind you, I wouldnt be running windows 7 on any old AGP system either, even if it was supported.
precisely, just because it will install and run doesn't mean you will get satisfactory performance. Kinda like trying to run win95 on a 486, yeah it might install and run, but how well?
 
Old 06-28-2012, 01:32 PM   #7
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If you can find a Matrox card, theya ren't the fastest things in the world (even when they were SOTA) but the video quality is generally excellent and I have yet to see an OS they won't work on.
 
Old 06-28-2012, 03:32 PM   #8
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AFAIK Fedora, even the absolute newest versions, will run just fine with AGP cards.
just try and run a gforce2 on fedora 17
the nouveau does not even work ,Xorg is way too new
and the 96 driver stopped back in fedora 14

the gforce2 does NOT even run on rhel6 using the 96.run
you have to use the nouveau on rhel6
 
Old 06-28-2012, 03:35 PM   #9
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just try and run a gforce2 on fedora 17
the nouveau does not even work ,Xorg is way too new
and the 96 driver stopped back in fedora 14

the gforce2 does NOT even run on rhel6 using the 96.run
you have to use the nouveau on rhel6
'just fine' doesn't necessarily include all the 3d whiz-bang effects that come along with modern distributions, but i wouldn't expect that of an older machine anyways.
 
Old 06-29-2012, 09:15 AM   #10
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On my recent experience with Xubuntu 12.04 on old systems.

Ati Radeon 9200: not supported by binary drivers. Fine desktop with radeon driver although poor 3d performance.
Ati Radeon 9600: not supported by binary drivers. Fine desktop with radeon driver and enough 3d performance for old games.
GeForce FX5200: supported by legacy binary drivers, installation could be tricky. Fine desktop with nouveau driver but almost no 3d performance at all.
GeForce 7600GS: supported by current binary drivers which provides fine desktop and expected 3d performance for such an old card. Fine desktop with nouveau driver but 3d performance almost inexistent.

I hope this could help your search on ebay.
 
Old 06-30-2012, 07:48 PM   #11
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precisely, just because it will install and run doesn't mean you will get satisfactory performance. Kinda like trying to run win95 on a 486, yeah it might install and run, but how well?
I've seen win7 running on a AM2/2GB/nVidia 7600 (AGP) system, it ran pretty well. I've also seen win95 running on a 486, it ran just fine. Better than on my cyrix actually.....

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just try and run a gforce2 on fedora 17
the nouveau does not even work ,Xorg is way too new
and the 96 driver stopped back in fedora 14

the gforce2 does NOT even run on rhel6 using the 96.run
you have to use the nouveau on rhel6
I'm 99% sure you've got nouveau mixed up with nvidia-legacy-96.XX.

Seeing how I've got a a few GF4Ti and a GF4MX440 (aka 'GF2MX ultra', LOL) cards sitting around here, and a system or 2 with AGP slots and 1GB, I might d/l fedora 17 just to make 100% sure it will work with older nVidia cards and nouveau.
 
  


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