Hi all, this is my first post here at this forum, however I am not an idiot, just very used to windows. I usually post over at cybertechhelp.com but those guys dont know linux for shit so hopefully ive come to the right place for help.

before i get to my problem, a few things must be said:

1) i realize this post is not formatted correctly for a hardware post like in the sticky, but i dont care. i didnt understand what the hell he was talking about so im doing it my way.

2) i know what a kernel is, but i dont know how to do anything with it, so take that into consideration.

3) ive been jerked around from distro to distro and ive decided im sticking with mandrake 10, so dont suggest anything else.

4) be specific in whatever u tell me to do, dont just say "run aoined8ha-98whpd9a.rpm" and expect me to know what to do, lol.

5) i know im a dick sometimes,its only cuz i get frustrated sometimes so be the bigger man and help me anyways.

here we go.


i have already said what distro im using, hopefully u read the above. i have 2 things that i cannot get to work and i cant find drivers for linux for them. both hardware. i have the cds for them but only linux drivers.

1) Xterasys XN-2511b Wireless PCI Card. Lets all *gasp* at once now, as at CTH forums a wireless card in linux was a sin, it can work, i know it can, tell me how.

2) Logitech MX1000 Laser Wireless USB Mouse. currently in the USB port but it came with the PS/2 adapter, didnt help using it though. NO MOUSE support whatsoever. um, also, i tried every config and none of them worked, not in any way shape or form, i got very good at navigating via keyboard today, lol.


please help! this is the linux forum, and u guys are the only ones who can help me! i hope to be here a long time, helping others as soon as i get my feet off the ground with linux and ditch that wannabe OS, "Windows XP".

would you like that with fries??? GEEZ!!!

okay, seriously... i did some googling for you... here's what i came-up with:

according to the xterasys faq, there's linux support for your card somewhere (a good sign):

http://www.xterasys.com/faq_wireless...%20and%20Linux

i wasn't able to come-up with any free updated linux drivers (although there might be), but i believe you can get the card going on linux with your windows xp drivers by using ndiswrapper:

http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/

the site has decent documentation and stuff...

here's some LQ threads relating to ndiswrapper that you probably wanna have a look at:

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l...rg&btnG=Search


as for your mouse, well, this guy seems like he has it working well:

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/history/247340

i think if you ask him nicely he'll give you a hand... notice how the word nicely is in bold... it's in bold because this is a free tech support forum made possible by volunteers, this is NOT a Burger-King...


here's a thread on another website dealing with the mx1000:

http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/...id=861&forum=5


and here's something you can try once you have it working, if you want to give it a boost:

http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/...p?articleid=47


just my two cents.. good luck...

ugh... ok i found some info on the damn linux driver for the wireless card, get this shit:

uh yeah, guess what, my username doesnt have AMD in it for no reason. so what the hell am i supposed to do? can i get around that somehow? anyways, ive got a little closer to something with that, whataya think?

-------------------------

Next order of business, about this tutorial on getting the mouse to work:

http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/...p?articleid=46

1) wtf is ROOT and how do i log on as it?

2) I have Mandrake 10.0 Official. Can I do all of the things the info at the link above calls for me to do? can do i do them all EXACTLY like it tells me?

3) when it says...

...does that mean I have to go to Run Command and enter that "jibberish"?

4) the tutorial seems to be for people who can use the mouse, but not ALL of the buttons. is it going to be any help to someone like me who has no mouse action going on AT ALL? will i be able to get linux to see my mouse using this or do i need to start somewhere else to get a connection, then use this to get all the buttons to work?



Please understand that i HATE windows, and i am really eager to get a firm grasp on linux as a whole. i am dying for all of this to make sense to me and it will seen, i can already tell that i will understand it before long, so until then, thanks for everyones help, and thanks in advance for the continuous help i will be calling for as time goes by and i dig deeper into mandrake and any other OS's i may dive into.

yeah, the xterasys faq mentioned all that... it doesn't matter anyways, as you're not using red hat 7.3 or 8.0... you need a solution that will work nicely on mandrake 10.x... oh, and i think that when they say "intel" they mean the "intel specification", not the brand name... AMD's CPUs use the intel specification, don't worry...

so anyways, the whole point of using ndiswrapper is that you don't have to go around looking for linux drivers for the card anymore - you can simply use the windows xp drivers on it...

=)

Quote:

wtf is ROOT and how do i log on as it?

root is the system administrator's account...

to become root, open a terminal window and run the command "su", it will ask you for the root password (which you assigned during installation)...

http://linuxnewbies.editthispage.com/tips/20000107

Quote:

the tutorial seems to be for people who can use the mouse, but not ALL of the buttons. is it going to be any help to someone like me who has no mouse action going on AT ALL? will i be able to get linux to see my mouse using this or do i need to start somewhere else to get a connection, then use this to get all the buttons to work?

did you see the link i posted to the mx1000 thread?? *hint*

Quote:

does that mean I have to go to Run Command and enter that "jibberish"?

nobody should be entering jibberish into a console (specially as root)...

it would be very wise if you took a few days to read-up on the general linux concepts and methods before diving-into the shell...

http://linux.org.mt/article/terminal#N10042

Quote:

Please understand that i HATE windows, and i am really eager to get a firm grasp on linux as a whole. i am dying for all of this to make sense to me and it will seen, i can already tell that i will understand it before long, so until then, thanks for everyones help, and thanks in advance for the continuous help i will be calling for as time goes by and i dig deeper into mandrake and any other OS's i may dive into.

if you can buy a linux book it would be really helpful... oreilly seems to have some nice ones:

http://linux.oreilly.com/

of course there's also plenty online documentation...

the most important thing when learning linux is to READ... faqs, howtos, guides, etc... the linux documentation project is a good source for these:

http://tldp.org/

they have some decent intros, such as:

http://tldp.org/LDP/intro-linux/html/index.html

http://tldp.org/LDP/sag/html/index.html


another good read is the slackware book... even though you aren't currently using slackware linux, it's still packed full of good, essential material for all linux power users...

http://www.slackware.com/book/


oh, and this link is extremely vital for searching for any linux stuff:

http://www.google.com/linux

i must admit that alot of it doesnt make sense to me, i need to get my head out of "windows mode", lol.

please, everyone stop saying things like "youre not ready" and this and that about doing things in linux, because if its explained right, anyone can do anything with a computer, so just give me good instructions and ill be fine, dont discourage me.

thanks for your help though, win32sux, i think i might be able to get the wireless card and mouse working, not sure but ill give it a shot. besides, no one seems to realize that if u f*ck up something in linux, big deal, format, reinstall, try again. life goes on. the best way to learn is to make mistakes. i think ill be alright though.

again thanks alot for all the help, ill keep posting in this thread as time goes by and i get from one point to another. check back!

??? The advice win32sux has offered is excellent, and nowhere in it do I see anything negative, discouraging, or otherwise suggesting that "you're not ready". Instead, win32sux has gone out of his/her way to be helpful by providing you with numerous links to relevant information to the questions you've asked.

At the risk of stating the obvious, Linux != Windows, and it does take some time to learn. Just as it would take someone who has never used Windows at least a few weeks if not months of working with it to really learn it, it's the same deal with Linux. (As they say, at one time or another, we *all* were complete newbies, regardless of the OS). Anyhow, IMO the most effective and efficient way to learn Linux is to simply spend a little time doing some background reading and preparation. To use an analogy, if you dive right into Linux but can't be bothered to do some introductory reading, it would be a lot like buying a new computer game, but then complaining that your character keeps getting killed because you don't want to spend a few minutes to read the manual to learn how to work the controls.

The purpose in writing all of this is just to encourage you to consider spending some time with a quality Linux reference book. The experience will be well worth it, believe me. I will second the recommendation for O'Reilly's "Running Linux" and would also suggest Paul Scheer's Rute which can be freely downloaded. Both of those books contain plenty of good, clearly written instructions on how to use Linux, and have been (and continue to be) an excellent source of information. Good luck with your Linux introduction and Welcome to LQ -- J.W.

ok first of all i dont know who the hell you are, but i never said anything negative about win32sux's help. in fact i thanked him personally in my last post. dont talkin to me like im ingrateful or something just because u took something i said the wrong way. please quote me where i said that HE was discouraging me or telling me i wasnt ready? huh? yeah u cant. so leave it alone.

second, what i said about discouraging me was not directed toward anyone, instead, everyone that ever discouraged ANYONE away from linux. ive been to many many forums and i see it all the time, people saying "hey man u should just stick to windows, blah blah.." its ridiculous, and i just wanted to state first off and there will be none of that in my thread.

i never "imply" anything i dont say, so if i wanted to tell win32sux his help was worthless, i would say hey man, that was a shitty response to my question, please dont help me anymore. i wouldnt have said...
You see the word "THOUGH" in that sentence? that was put there to let him know i set him aside from all those that discourage linux newbies. take a f*ckin second to think about things before u come and blast me for asking NOT to be discouraged and pushed away from linux, or talked down to. mind ur god damn business.

oh and just so you know, i read every word on every page of EVERY link he sent me, and responded to all that i could understand of it directly back to him personally.

Wow -- let's slow down. First of all, please re-read what you wrote, namely that you wanted "everyone" to "stop telling you you're not ready" and to stop "discouraging" you. Because there weren't any comments like that being made, all I was trying to point out was that the advice that had been offered to that point was actually really good, and furthermore that learning Linux can be made a lot easier with a good reference book. It wasn't meant to be taken as personal criticism towards you. If you took it that way, sorry.

Also, let me also point out that these boards are visited by users of all ages. Please refrain from using 4 letter words in your posts. -- J.W.

again...

it didnt happen here, and i was pointing out that it happened elsewhere to let everyone know that it really bothers me when people do it, so i was just asking that it doesnt happen here. that is all. i never said anyone here did anything, and also AAAAAGAIN, i thanked win32sux for his help, and ill thank him again in the future, im sure. it has been great reading the info in his links and ive already learned alot having only been at this site for one day now. if u take ur head out of ur... BUTT (lol), then you would see what ive pointed out several times now.. NO ONE AT THIS SITE has done anything wrong, and thats how i like it because thats what might set this forum apart from others, everyone encouraging and not making people feel dumb because they dont understand things right away. AGAIN AGAIN AGAIN this is not any of you, and especially not win32sux. you are the one who is taking it personally.