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Old 07-06-2006, 12:09 AM   #1
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Monitor Issues


I am using Suse 9.1 personal on an intel pentium 4.

well i have a dell Ultrascan 1000HS D1025 TM monitor and it is not in the monitor list. When i choose D1025TM only in the monitor list , it says out of scan range and nothing comes on the screen. Any solution???

When i start X it says your monitor did not report its X and Y.

My monitor is currently running with the automatically probed config but i want to correct it.
 
Old 07-06-2006, 12:14 AM   #2
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does your monitor documentation state vertical and horizontal synch/refresh rates? youll need those values and edit your X-configuration file. post the file as it is now.. 9.1 uses xfree, so the configuration file is in /etc/X11/ and called something like XFree86-4 or something similar, i dont use it so i am not sure.
 
Old 07-09-2006, 11:01 PM   #3
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here are the contents of XF86Config

# /.../
# SaX generated XFree86 config file
# Created on: 2006-07-04T13:32:21-0700.
#
# Version: 4.8
# Contact: Marcus Schaefer <sax@suse.de>, 2002
#
# Automatically generated by [SaX2] (4.8)
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
#

Section "Files"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/local"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/URW"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/Speedo"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/PEX"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/cyrillic"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin2/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/latin7/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/baekmuk:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/japanese:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/kwintv"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/truetype"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/uni:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/CID"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/ucs/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/misc:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/75dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/100dpi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/hellas/Type1"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc/sgi:unscaled"
FontPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/xtest"
FontPath "/opt/kde3/share/fonts"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS0"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS1"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS2"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS3"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS4"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS5"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS6"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS7"
InputDevices "/dev/ttyS8"
InputDevices "/dev/psaux"
InputDevices "/dev/logibm"
InputDevices "/dev/sunmouse"
InputDevices "/dev/atibm"
InputDevices "/dev/amigamouse"
InputDevices "/dev/atarimouse"
InputDevices "/dev/inportbm"
InputDevices "/dev/gpmdata"
InputDevices "/dev/mouse"
InputDevices "/dev/usbmouse"
InputDevices "/dev/adbmouse"
InputDevices "/dev/input/mice"
InputDevices "/dev/input/event0"
InputDevices "/dev/pointer0"
InputDevices "/dev/pointer1"
InputDevices "/dev/pointer2"
InputDevices "/dev/pointer3"
EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "type1"
Load "speedo"
Load "freetype"
Load "extmod"
Load "glx"
Load "v4l"
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
Option "AllowMouseOpenFail"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "Keyboard"
Identifier "Keyboard[0]"
Option "Protocol" "Standard"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbModel" "pc104"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "mouse"
Identifier "Mouse[1]"
Option "Buttons" "5"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Name" "Autodetection"
Option "Protocol" "explorerps/2"
Option "Vendor" "Sysp"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection


Section "Monitor"
HorizSync 30-33
Identifier "Monitor[0]"
ModelName "Unknown"
Option "DPMS"
VendorName "Unknown"
VertRefresh 43-72
UseModes "Modes[0]"
EndSection


Section "Modes"
Identifier "Modes[0]"
EndSection


Section "Device"
BoardName "i845"
BusID "0:2:0"
Driver "i810"
Identifier "Device[0]"
VendorName "Intel"
EndSection


Section "Screen"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "640x480"
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "640x480"
EndSubSection
Device "Device[0]"
Identifier "Screen[0]"
Monitor "Monitor[0]"
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Layout[all]"
InputDevice "Keyboard[0]" "CoreKeyboard"
InputDevice "Mouse[1]" "CorePointer"
Screen "Screen[0]"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
Group "video"
Mode 0660
EndSection

i have no such manual for my monitor.
But these are the specifications provided by the website.

General



Model number
D1025TM


Marketing series name
UltraScan 1000HS Series


Part number
55341 (North American)



NOTES: Damper wires are visible on Trinitron monitor displays. You may notice one or more fine horizontal lines on your monitor display, particularly on screens with white backgrounds. Larger monitors have two lines; smaller monitors have one line in the bottom third of the screen. These lines are normal and part of the monitor technology.

The damper wires are used to stabilize the vertically striped aperture grill. This aperture grill design allows more light to pass through to the screen, giving the Trinitron CRT more vibrant color and brightness.







Input Signals




Video
analog, 0.7 Vpp, positive at 75 ohm


Separate sync
TTL level, positive


Composite sync
TTL level, polarity free


Sync on green
0.3 VPP, negative




Scanning Frequency
Horizontal
30 to 85 kHz


Vertical
50 to 120 Hz




CRT



Screen dimensions
17 inches (16.0 inches viewable image size)


CRT deflection angle
90


Aperture grill pitch
0.25 mm


Phosphor type
P22 (medium short persistence)


Faceplate coating
AR film with antistatic coating


Viewable image size
327 x 243 mm


Display picture size
312 x 234 mm




Physical Characteristics



Connector
15-pin D-subminiature


Signal cable type
attached


Dimensions:



Height


432 mm (17.125 inches)



Width


406 mm (16 inches)



Depth


420 mm (16.625 inches)



Weight


18 kg (39 lb 11 oz)




Power



Power consumption:
Normal operation
< 120 W (maximum)
Standby mode
< 15 W (maximum)
Suspend mode
< 15 W (maximum)
Active-off mode

< 8 W (maximum)
AC input voltage


100 to 240 VAC, 50/60 Hz


Inrush current
120 VAC/42 A;
240 VAC/75 A


Steady state current
100 to 120 VAC, 50/60 Hz, 1.8 A;
220 to 240 VAC, 50/60 Hz, 1 A

Environmental

Temperature:

Operating


10 to 40C (50 to 104F)



Nonoperating


0 to 60C (32 to 140F)


Humidity:

Operating


10% to 80% (noncondensing)

Nonoperating


5% to 90% (noncondensing)


Altitude (operating)
0-3048 m (0-10,000 ft.)


Thermal dissipation
341 BTU/hour (normal)

Energy Star certified
yes

Resolution

Maximum horizontal
1280 pixels*


Maximum vertical
1024 lines*


* The highest preset resolution supported is 1280 x 1024 at 75Hz.




Video Presets/Frequencies



Modes
Resolution
Horizontal
Vertical


1
720 x 400
31.5 kHz
70 Hz


2
640 x 480
31.5 kHz
60 Hz


3
640 x 480
43.3 kHz
85 Hz


4
800 x 600
46.9 kHz
75 Hz


5
800 x 600
53.7 kHz
85 Hz


6
1024 x 768
48.4 kHz
60 Hz


7
1024 x 768
60.0 kHz
75 Hz


8
1024 x 768
68.7 kHz
85 Hz


9
1280 x 1024
64.0 kHz
60 Hz


10
1280 x 1024
80.0 kHz
75 Hz





Regulatory




Safety Certifications:


UL Listing

TCO-92

MPR

MPR II

VLF

ELF




EMC Certifications:


FCC Class A

FCC Class B


Well this is all you required!
 
Old 07-09-2006, 11:16 PM   #4
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ok thanks for researching.

from your X config file, this is the section we need to focus on:

Code:
Section "Monitor"
HorizSync 30-33
Identifier "Monitor[0]"
ModelName "Unknown"
Option "DPMS"
VendorName "Unknown"
VertRefresh 43-72
UseModes "Modes[0]"
EndSection
it looks like it already does have values for the VertRefresh and HorizSync.
however, these are the ones specified, from the official documentation for your monitor:
Code:
Scanning Frequency 
Horizontal 
30 to 85 kHz


Vertical
50 to 120 Hz
therefore you need to replace '30-33' with '30-85', and '43-72' with '50-120'.

as the top of the configuration file states:
Quote:
# Automatically generated by [SaX2] (4.8)
# PLEASE DO NOT EDIT THIS FILE!
i dont use this 'SaX2' or XFree86, so i dont know anything about this program and whether it can run from command line or GUI only. anyway, look into it and try and run this configuration tool and look for the vert/horiz options, or maybe there will be an option for 'Configure rates manually' or something like that, i wouldnt know. if that program doesnt have this option, try and run 'xf86config' or something similar (again, not sure the name) as i would think this would let you specify these rates. it may be good to make a backup of your current XFree config file before. after running the tool(s) then try and 'startx' again. if that fails, post the complete X log file.


also, something else to note is this part of your config file:
Code:
Section "Screen"
DefaultDepth 16
SubSection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "640x480" 
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "640x480" 
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "640x480" 
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "640x480" 
EndSubSection
SubSection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "640x480" 
EndSubSection
you may want to change "DefaultDepth 16" to "DefaultDepth 24" to get a better appearance. again, first look for these options during the configuration with the previously mentioned tools.


and one last thing, notice all of the lines with 'Modes "640x480"'. this means you wont be able to run at 800x600 or 1024x768.. if you want that, then change the line for the depth that you want, and add resolutions in order of priority. again, look for these in the tools before editing the file because it asked nicely not to. you could cut this whole "Screen" section down to this:
Code:
Section "Screen"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "640x480" 
EndSubSection

Last edited by nadroj; 07-09-2006 at 11:19 PM.
 
Old 07-10-2006, 01:02 AM   #5
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hey thanks for replying.

I changed the syncs to what you suggested but then my monitor says 'out of scan range ' and nothing appears on it.

So i restored it to original. It does not complain about any syns.

It says that your monitor did not report its X and Y geometry. Everytime i start X.
 
Old 07-10-2006, 01:09 AM   #6
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could you post the complete log file please as well as 'lsmod' and 'lspci' (may need to run them as root)
 
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Also, what specific video card are you using?
 
Old 07-10-2006, 10:56 PM   #8
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as for video card i am using intel 845g and as for log file, where do i find these files??
 
Old 07-10-2006, 11:01 PM   #9
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log file is /var/log/XFree86.0.log or something similar.

at your command prompt run 'lspci' and 'lsmod' each command will print out a bunch of output that may look foreign to you right now (or maybe not). please post the complete output of each of these commands.

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