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Old 07-02-2008, 09:37 PM   #16
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Congrats on your new kernel. As you've found out, kernel panic is probably due to not having the proper File System (ext2, ext3, etc) in the kernel or not having initrd in the boot up (grub or lilo) options if the File Systems are in modules. How did you fix?

With new kernel did you compile sound card drivers as modules or in kernel?

You should post info on your system.

1. What motherboard (make, model, north bridge, south bridge, bios version)
2. What soundcard (integrated?)
3. Other cards (tv tuner, modem)
4. Linux distribution/version (Debian/Lenny?)
5. output from lspci with new kernel
6. output from lsmod with new kernel
7. relevant portions of dmesg

Maybe this info will help.

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Old 07-03-2008, 08:37 AM   #17
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new message at boot

Thanks, forum1793. Mobo make and model unknown. I even contacted Dell support (this is a Dell Dimension 4400) and they could not provide that info. However, I cracked open the case and the mobo has a marking "Mic N232", if that helps.

processor=Pentium 4, 1.6 GHz.
RAM=one gig

/var/log/boot now =
Code:
^[]R^[[9;30]^[[14;30]Setting up ALSA...done (none loaded)
lspci now =
Code:
00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset Host Bridge (rev 04)
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82845 845 (Brookdale) Chipset AGP Bridge (rev 04)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 05)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801BA ISA Bridge (LPC) (rev 05)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801BA IDE U100 (rev 05)
00:1f.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #1) (rev 05)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM SMBus (rev 05)
00:1f.4 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801BA/BAM USB (Hub #2) (rev 05)
01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV11 [GeForce2 MX/MX 400] (rev b2)
02:09.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82557/8/9 [Ethernet Pro 100] (rev 08)
02:0a.0 Communication controller: Conexant HCF 56k Data/Fax Modem (rev 08)
02:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs Ectiva EV1938
lsmod now=
Code:
Module                  Size  Used by
ipv6                  227268  10 
ppdev                   8516  0 
lp                     10828  0 
ac                      5956  0 
battery                12996  0 
speedstep_lib           4548  0 
cpufreq_conservative     7400  0 
cpufreq_powersave       1792  0 
cpufreq_ondemand        8300  0 
cpufreq_userspace       3780  0 
cpufreq_stats           5156  0 
freq_table              4416  2 cpufreq_ondemand,cpufreq_stats
loop                   16932  0 
parport_pc             31768  1 
parport                33588  3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
psmouse                35408  0 
serio_raw               6532  0 
pcspkr                  3072  0 
rtc                    13664  0 
pwc                    79492  0 
compat_ioctl32          1376  1 pwc
videodev               28992  1 pwc
v4l1_compat            12580  1 videodev
i2c_i801                9168  0 
i2c_core               22292  1 i2c_i801
button                  8144  0 
shpchp                 29716  0 
pci_hotplug            26692  1 shpchp
intel_agp              24700  1 
agpgart                31732  1 intel_agp
evdev                  11040  3 
dcdbas                  8064  0 
ext3                  119624  2 
jbd                    43636  1 ext3
mbcache                 8388  1 ext3
sha256_generic         11552  0 
aes_i586                8256  2 
aes_generic            27688  1 aes_i586
cbc                     4224  1 
dm_crypt               14756  1 
crypto_blkcipher       18084  3 cbc,dm_crypt
dm_mirror              25732  0 
dm_snapshot            17540  0 
dm_mod                 52592  10 dm_crypt,dm_mirror,dm_snapshot
ide_cd_mod             32804  0 
cdrom                  31804  1 ide_cd_mod
ide_disk               13664  3 
ide_pci_generic         4196  0 [permanent]
floppy                 52916  0 
uhci_hcd               22320  0 
piix                    7112  0 [permanent]
usbcore               128240  3 pwc,uhci_hcd
ide_core               99256  4 ide_cd_mod,ide_disk,ide_pci_generic,piix
e100                   32396  0 
mii                     5248  1 e100
thermal                18780  0 
processor              38800  1 thermal
fan                     4032  0
dmesg now=
Code:
Linux version 2.6.25.9
Debian 4.3.1-2
agpgart: Detected an Intel 845G Chipset
CPU0: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz stepping 02
Thanks for the congrats on the kernel. I overcame the kernel panic by adding an initrd line to grub. Please let me know if I can provide any more information, particularly from dmesg as I was not certain of its relevant parts.

Thanks for sticking with me on this, forum1793!
 
Old 07-03-2008, 08:40 AM   #18
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PS...

...I don't know if I compiled sound card drivers as module or kernel! I really was in over my head and just followed the prompts given. Perhaps that means I compiled them as kernel, don't know for sure.
 
Old 07-04-2008, 02:52 AM   #19
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Quote:
Originally Posted by bezdomny View Post
...I don't know if I compiled sound card drivers as module or kernel! I really was in over my head and just followed the prompts given. Perhaps that means I compiled them as kernel, don't know for sure.
If you still have the directory tree you compiled from, the top level directory in that tree should have a ("hidden") file called .config (note the leading dot, which is what makes it "hidden". Apologies if you alread knew that). The file is ASCII text so you can use a variety of tools to view it. It is a little cryptic, but you can probably figure it out.

BTW, some (most? all?) distros now keep a copy of the config file in /boot for each kernel in /boot. They modify the filename a little to associate it with its corresponding kernel. For example, in Ubuntu 6.10, my boot directory looks like:

Code:
user@ratel:~$ ls /boot
System.map-2.6.17-10-generic  grub
System.map-2.6.17-11-generic  initrd.img-2.6.17-10-generic
System.map-2.6.17-12-generic  initrd.img-2.6.17-11-generic
abi-2.6.17-10-generic         initrd.img-2.6.17-12-generic
abi-2.6.17-11-generic         memtest86+.bin
abi-2.6.17-12-generic         vmlinuz-2.6.17-10-generic
config-2.6.17-10-generic      vmlinuz-2.6.17-11-generic
config-2.6.17-11-generic      vmlinuz-2.6.17-12-generic
config-2.6.17-12-generic
So you might want to save the config file for your newly compile kernel in the same way. (If he kernel installation didn't already do this for you.) It sure is handy when you want to check how a particular kernel was compiled.
 
Old 07-04-2008, 03:49 AM   #20
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alsaconf="No supported PnP or PCI card found"

Thanks, blackhole54. Situation has gone from bad to worse as alsaconf now returns

Quote:
No supported PnP or PCI card found
'

after I tried to manually intall the driver. Also, now even OSS doesn't work. So, I've started a new thread. Thanks again for sticking with me.

best regards,

bezdomny
 
Old 07-04-2008, 10:33 AM   #21
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0. Go through you dmesg looking for errors or other information, dmesg | more. Look through the log files in /var/log for error messages or other relevant info. What's relevant, hard to say since not using your hardware. Does anything useful show up in the /proc/asound area? Such as:
cat /proc/asound/cards
cat /proc/asound/devices
cat /proc/asound/modules
cat /proc/asound/oss/sndstat

1. Dell Dimension 4400 manual shows it has an ADI 1885 sound chip (I'm not sure if onboard or separate card). Your earlier messages suggest you have a (Creative) ensoniq AudioPCI 1371/1373.

Did you add a separate/additional sound card?

If yes, and if previous sound card/chip is on the mainboard, did you disable it in bios?

If not sure, please take a moment and open case and verify which sound card you have?

2. Did you add any additional hardware? I once added a single harddisk to a dell and the power supply couldn't handle it. The whole system acted goofy until the HD was removed. Yes, the dell manual said not to do it but the IDE cable had an extra spot and the bigger drive was needed.

3. I read somewhere that your user had to be added to the audio group, usually located in /etc/group. You should check and/or add. This will not solve your current problem but should help in the ideal future.

audio:x:17:root,<your user name>

Might as well add to video, cdrom, and plugdev groups also.

4. I am not familiar with debian. Is it possible it uses pulseaudio? If you check your packages, is pulseaudio there? Note that I am not suggesting you add pusleaudio.

5. Are the alsa packages there with the new Lenny distribution? If not look at: http://packages.debian.org/lenny/sound/

You should have files at /lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound if kernel compiled as modules. I think the seperate alsa packages put stuff there also but I could be wrong.

Sounds like alsa not working but did you try "alsamixer", set values, unmute with "m", exit with esc, and "alsactl store". I don't recall ever using alsaconf but maybe the slackware distribution did it automatically.

6. When you made kernel, did you do "make modules_install" ? You probably did or would likely still be getting kernel-panic.

7. Assuming the above are basically correct, you could compile kernel again.

Copy your config file to your home area to preserve it. Do "make clean" or "make mrproper". Copy the config file back.
Do make xconfig or make menuconfig. In the event xwindows is not working we'll assume you are running "make menuconfig". There's not a great difference but sometimes the options are layed out differently.

To avoid kernel-panic and need for initrd include file systems
7.1) File systems
Press "y" to build in each of the options for ext2 (except execute in place support unless you want it) and ext3. Press "y" for other file systems that you might boot from. Somepeople user reiserfs. Press "m" to compile as modules other file systems that you might use but don't boot from. For example I have xfs as I'm trying to get mythtv working and xfs is supposed to be good for that but I don't boot from it.
Press "y" for everything in cdrom/dvd file systems.
Go through other options and read descriptions and choose if they make sense.

7.2) Sound (from make menuconfig sound will be under device drivers, in make xconfig just scroll down and you will see).
Press "m" at sound
Press "m" at alsa
Press "m" for the first options through "verbose procfs contents". This will give OSS emulation. I leave "Dynamic device file minor numbers" blank
Under Generic Devices, I press "m" for "Virtual MIDI..." and "Generic MPU-401..." I'm not sure these do any good.
Under PCI Devices, consider the following for your system:
a) Press "m" for Analog Devices AD1889, though you probably will not need this.
b) Press "m" for Emu10k1X (Dell EOM Version), just because it has Dell in the name.
c) Press "m" for both of the Creative Ensoniqs (1370 and 1371/1373)
d) Press "m" for "Intel HD Audio" and under this:
d-1) Press "m" for "Build Analog Device..."
e) Press "m" for "Intel/SiS/nVidia/AMD/Ali AC97 Controller"

f) Back under sound and below, but not as a subset of, alsa, press "m" for oss and press "m" for every choice in the oss subset. I didn't see anything that looked like it was for your system but who knows.

7.3) I'm not sure what to suggest on ACPI and power due to probable age of your system. For my system, I need acpi and power button to be compiled in kernel for powerdown sequence to work after typing "halt" as root. When button was module I had to physically turn off. Power issues may play role in turning on certain hardware for udev to see but I don't know much about this. I'm not sure if this could have any effect on the sound.

7.4) save and exit config,
7.5) make
7.6) make modules_install (as root)
7.7) copy linux-2.6.25.9/System.map to /boot/System.map-2.6.25.9 (or however you call)
7.8) copy linux-2.6.25.9/arch/x86/boot/bzimage to /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.25.9 (or whatever you call it)
7.9) edit /boot/grub/menu.lst as necessary
7.10) try it out

8) If that doesn't work, recompile kernel building everything as a module if possible,

"make allmodconfig" and then go to 7.5)

This should require initrd to boot since file systems will be modules.

9) If that doens't help, curse, pull hair out, drink moderately (if of age), go do something else for a long time, consider new soundcard, consider building new system. Consider if a PC is really needed or whether one's life is happier without one. Then start over, check for bios update from dell, does a setting in bios need to be changed for soundcard, do any IRQs need to be reserved, if extra sound card does it have IRQ setting jumpers, jumpers on motherboard are what they are supposed to be, cables are plugged in... Your best bet might be to go back to earlier kernel that uses OSS, maybe even in 2.4 series.
 
Old 07-04-2008, 11:03 AM   #22
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Before doing my last post read this:

Reading through your posts again, the card shows up in lspci as ectiva EV1938. Seems like many others having problem with this. At least one person suggesting only using OSS. See: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-347398.html

I didn't see obvious choice in oss compilation. Does this mean you have to go back to earlier kernel? Try doing kernel with alsa disabled (press "n") and with everything enabled as module under oss and see if this helps. Or if you already have these as modules try the blacklisting as in link above.

Don't spend huge amounts of time on this. Consider buying a cheap PCI sound card, maybe something like
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102003

at least one reviewer says it works with fedora 8, so it should work with yours as well.

Of course if doing a new sound card, could instead get new motherboard, ram, cpu, case, dvd. Whole thing could be under $400. Sound card around $25.

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Old 07-04-2008, 06:35 PM   #23
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modprobe warning: not loading blacklisted module snd_ens1371" at boot

Thanks, forum1793.

/var/log/boot=
Code:
^[[33m*^[[39;49m /etc/modprobe.conf exists but does not include /etc/modprobe.d/!
 	^[]R^[[9;30]^[[14;30]Setting up ALSA...warning: 'alsactl restore' failed with error message 'alsactl: load_state:1573: No soundcards found...'...done.
dmesg=
Code:
Linux version 2.6.25.9
(no error messages noted)

all cat /proc/ commands=
Code:
No such file or directory
pulseaudio now installed but pulseaudio manager=
Quote:
Failure: connection refused
BIOS contains no audio configuration.

yes, I added a new sound card. Windows Device Manager calls it CreativeSB audioPCI. lspci calls it Creative Labs Ectiva EV1938. I just bought this card because it got 100% positive reviews at LQ HCL!

No other hardware recently added.

/etc/group=
Code:
audio:x:29:{my user name},pulse
KDE User Manager shows my user name in group "29 audio"

Yes, ALSA packages are included in the Lenny distro.

Files found at /lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound=
acore core drivers i2c isa oss pci pcmcia soundcore.ko sound_firmware.ko synth usb

alsamixer now=
Code:
function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such device
however, when alsamixer was working, yes, I toggled "M" to unmute channels but did not do alsactl store. By the way, ALSACONF still detects sound card when booting into earlier version of kernel.

Do not recall if I did "make modules_install" ? when I made kernel-- I was admittedly way over my head and just followed the prompts as presented.

I will ponder whether I want to try to rebuild the new kernel or spend any more money on yet another sound card. I'm not sure I'm up to rebuilding the kernel again and may follow your advice to just try to solve this with the older kernel (still present in grub).

As for using OSS, I would prefer ALSA so I can voice chat in Skype (which is not supported by OSS).

Thank you and best regards,

bezdomny
 
Old 07-04-2008, 09:55 PM   #24
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The main difference between lsmod with new vs old kernel is all the snd files are missing as is the 1371 file. I don't know if alsaconf finds these automatically or not. You probably need the snd-ens1371 file loaded before much regarding sound works.

With new distribution and new kernel what does the following give?

Code:
modprobe snd-ens1371
If it doesn't work, can you verify the file is located in the /lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound area? Probably under sound/pci

If its not there, try doing the kernel again with
"make allmodconfig" as I discussed previously. This won't take you any time for the configuration but the make will take a while. Have it do it while you are doing something else. What the heck, try it.
 
Old 07-05-2008, 05:42 PM   #25
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back to square one and thank you for your continued assistance

Dear forum1793,

I gathered my courage and recompiled the kernel again.

uname -r=
Code:
2.6.25.9
less /var/log/boot=
Code:
^[[33m*^[[39;49m /etc/modprobe.conf exists but does not include /etc/modprobe.d/!
but I don't know if this is relevant to the present issue.

cat /proc/asound/cards=
Code:
 0 [AudioPCI       ]: ENS1371 - Ensoniq AudioPCI
                      Ensoniq AudioPCI ENS1371 at 0xde80, irq 23
ALSACONF once again successfully detects soundcard=
Code:
ens1371 Creative Labs Ectiva EV1938
/lib/modules/2.6.25.9/kernel/sound/pci contains both snd-es1938.ko and snd-ens1371.ko

Still no sound, but I feel I'm s-o-o-o close...when ALSACONF loads the driver, there's an audible "click" in the headphones!

It's still a mystery to me why Windows Device Manager calls this card Creative SBaudioPCI (which gets 100% favorable reviews at LQ HCL and that's why I bought it; in other words, I thought I had done my homework), and ALSACONF calls it Creative Labs Ective EV1938 and whether this has any bearing on the present issue.

I'm open to any further suggestions, but if there are none, I think I can spare another twenty-five bucks or so for another soundcard (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829102003 as you suggested) and putting this card in my teenagers' PC-- it would represent an upgrade for them.

Please, anybody, let me know if there are any other suggestions before I buy another soundcard.

Thanks and bests regards to all, especially forum1793.

bezdomny
 
Old 07-05-2008, 10:13 PM   #26
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It sounds like you are close (if it is going to work). ALSA sees the card as it shows up in aplay. If you have some mp3 song on your system try playing it from an xterm. For example, I could play music from mpg321 and hear it when it didn't work in kde. Of course this could have been due to the oss emulation. By the way do you still have oss emulation?

Post your output from
Code:
lsmod | grep snd
Also post aplay -l and aplay -L

If you have mplayer or xine, try playing mp3. Something like:

Code:
mplayer -ao alsa yoursong.mp3

xine -A alsa yoursong.mp3
I could be wrong about xine format. You can also use its gui to change. Run xine and right click on window. Select settings and Setup. In gui tab change experience level to master or higher. From audio tab change top field to alsa. Save. Exit xine and restart it.

I think I remember you were using kde. If right you can change settings to use alsa. Should work in auto but who knows

kde start button-->Settings-->Sound and Multimedia-->Sound System
Select hardware tab.
Change select audio device to Advanced... (alsa).
Press apply.
Select General tab
Press Test Sound
Anything happen?

BTW: since you have pulseaudio loaded, does it do anything for you? I've never used but read somewhere that fedora or some big distribution would start using it.

Regarding the soundcard, the one I linked to was the first pseudo cheap one I saw that was PCI. It did have one reviewer saying it worked but for all I know it might be same card as you have and its working for that person might be in oss. I thought because it was Creative it would be fine but as you already are using Creative there are no guarantees. My last two motherboards have onboard audio. I think the last sound card I bought was a Creative but may have only used oss. Look at alsa.

Linux is really a trial and error process sometimes. Its easier now than it was 5-10 years ago. The important thing is to backup files you care about and have them on a hd that you can remove or unplug on machine when doing new installs or partitioning. Smart people (usually not me) keep notes on what files they add and how they add/compile so they can repeat or learn from them in future. Also read up on how to repair master boot record (MBR) if using windows xp on separate disk. Everything else can just be reloaded.

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Old 07-05-2008, 11:18 PM   #27
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s-o-o-o-o close...

PulseAudio manager=
Quote:
Failure: Connection refused
aplay -L=
Code:
default:CARD=AudioPCI
    Ensoniq AudioPCI, ES1371 DAC2/ADC
    Default Audio Device
front:CARD=AudioPCI,DEV=0
    Ensoniq AudioPCI, ES1371 DAC2/ADC
    Front speakers
surround40:CARD=AudioPCI,DEV=0
    Ensoniq AudioPCI, ES1371 DAC2/ADC
    4.0 Surround output to Front and Rear speakers
iec958:CARD=AudioPCI,DEV=0
    Ensoniq AudioPCI, ES1371 DAC2/ADC
    IEC958 (S/PDIF) Digital Audio Output
null
    Discard all samples (playback) or generate zero samples (capture)
aplay -l=
Code:
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: AudioPCI [Ensoniq AudioPCI], device 0: ES1371/1 [ES1371 DAC2/ADC]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 0: AudioPCI [Ensoniq AudioPCI], device 1: ES1371/2 [ES1371 DAC1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
lsmod | grep snd=
Code:
snd_ens1371            23652  0 
gameport               13836  1 snd_ens1371
snd_rawmidi            22464  1 snd_ens1371
snd_seq_device          7756  1 snd_rawmidi
snd_ac97_codec         91456  1 snd_ens1371
ac97_bus                1920  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                67620  2 snd_ens1371,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer              20968  1 snd_pcm
snd                    51832  6 snd_ens1371,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq_device,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore               7368  1 snd
snd_page_alloc          9864  1 snd_pcm
mplayer -ao alsa Thievery\ Corp\ -\ It\ Takes\ A\ Thief.mp3=
Code:
MPlayer 1.0rc2-4.2.3-DFSG-free (C) 2000-2007 MPlayer Team
CPU: Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 1.60GHz (Family: 15, Model: 1, Stepping: 2)
CPUflags:  MMX: 1 MMX2: 1 3DNow: 0 3DNow2: 0 SSE: 1 SSE2: 1
Compiled with runtime CPU detection.
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
Failed to open LIRC support. You will not be able to use your remote control.

Playing Thievery Corp - It Takes A Thief.mp3.
Audio file file format detected.
Clip info:
 Title: It takes a thief
 Artist: Thievery Corporation
 Album: Space Night Vol. VI CD2
 Year: 
 Comment:                             
 Track: 32
 Genre: Other
==========================================================================
Opening audio decoder: [mp3lib] MPEG layer-2, layer-3
mpg123: Can't rewind stream by 705 bits!
AUDIO: 44100 Hz, 2 ch, s16le, 128.0 kbit/9.07% (ratio: 16000->176400)
Selected audio codec: [mp3] afm: mp3lib (mp3lib MPEG layer-2, layer-3)
==========================================================================
...but no sound.

I even tried a set of amplified speakers...no joy. I feel s-o-o-o close, though... thanks again for all your help.
 
Old 07-06-2008, 12:37 PM   #28
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Did you disable on-board (integrated) sound in bios, or did your dell have a different sound card?

With new kernel/distribution, you did alsamixer, raised levels, esc, alsactl store as root?

If you are using kde, try,

kde start button-->Settings-->Sound and Multimedia-->Sound System
Select hardware tab.
Change select audio device to ALSA
Press apply.
Select General tab
Press Test Sound

Anything?

If no, is it possible something else has control of soundcard such as esd or aRTS.

In an xterm as su try
Code:
killall esd
killall artsd
Also in kde sound system (above), in general tab, uncheck "Enable the sound system", save and exit.

then try mplayer again. (note it doesn't have to mp3, could be wav file).

Also try
Code:
mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.0 yoursong
You may have to restart or reboot to get to turn these back on as well as restart the Sound System under kde settings.

Some observations:

From your lsmod | grep snd, you don't see any oss which means you haven't compiled the oss emulations modules for alsa. This may not matter to you. I've needed these for sound as the games used oss. I think on one I had to do some kind of mmap, but I don't recall.

Your mplayer message says
Code:
mplayer: could not connect to socket
mplayer: No such file or directory
I don't see these messages when I use mplayer.
One or both might be for lirc but I don't use lirc.

edit: looking on web it seems somewhat probable these messages are for lirc

I also don't see
Code:
mpg123: Can't rewind stream by 705 bits!
Your sound card has optical output. If you have optical cable and receiver with optical input (I'm not suggesting you buy anything for this) you could hook them up and try following:
Code:
mplayer -ao alsa:device=hw=0.1 yoursong
But, since both of your outputs come from card0 there would be little reason to buy cable just to try this. Probably won't help you with skype anyway.

Is this card working well in WindowsXP? If not working in XP also, is it possible the audio cables from the front are not connected properly to the sound card. My mboard has two connectors, one for ac97 and another. Maybe plugging in headphones disables rear output. Maybe consider only using rear speaker port on sound card.

Did you consider removing new sound card and see if on-board/original sound works?

Last but not least, update your alsa packages from
http://packages.debian.org/lenny/sound/
Some of the alsa packages are up to 1.0.16-2 which is pretty new. The change log for the http://packages.debian.org/lenny/sound/alsa-source file indicates changes to ens1371.

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Old 07-07-2008, 06:25 PM   #29
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out of options

Yes, I have a dual-boot system with Windows XP Home and the card works fine there. As for on-board sound adapter, there is none.

Thanks everyone for your help. I'm out of options at this point. At the suggestion of another helpful person at the ALSA mailing list, I pulled the card out and played with its jumpers and was rewarded with a loud squeal at shutdown with some jumper combinations, but no other sound.

You know what I think I'm going to do? I think I'm going to surf over to Dell.com and check out their Ubuntu boxes and see if I can determine if they come with a PCI soundcard, and, if so, which one. Then, I'll buy that soundcard as it must be supported with my Debian install as Ubuntu is first cousin to Debian as I understand it.

Thanks again to everyone for your patient help. At this point, I'm out of any other options.

Best regards,

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Old 07-07-2008, 07:12 PM   #30
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I hope you got my point about checking the alsa matrix. Its list for Creative shows that the link I gave at newegg for the audigy SE is probably not a good choice. Interesting that one person there says it works in fedora8. If you keep look through responses there you see at least one other linux person who has problems with it. The matrix might be a little dated but worth using. Maybe it is just an issue of kernel/driver updates.

What's discouraging is that there is no listing of ectiva on it. Years ago I bought one that ended up showing up as ct5880 for a windows system that I used with linux (might have been oss only back then). So even from the matrix there seem to be no guarantees but there is at least some information about what doesn't work.

I believe you when you say you thought you did your homework. It seems like cards are not identified well enough (maybe for creative) to know what you're getting.

Well, good luck to you.

ps, I'm not a dell fan. You should buy your own parts and put them together. My last three builds have all worked fairly well. The last two had on-board sound.

edit: looking at <$25 cards at newegg that might work, after consulting alsa page gives:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829128003
--$14 no comments about linux but uses c-media 8738 chip so should work.
----Not great reviews but if 8738 supported it should work.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829612001
-$16 usb, one person says works in ubuntu

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829186001
-$20, c-media 8768 so should work in linux
--no linux supporting reviews
---Does offer 7.1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16829118103
-$24, Seems to use c-media 8738 so probably works in linux.
--The c-media site directs to alsa-project for driver indicating its built in.
--One reviewer says works in linux

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