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shadowcat 12-22-2005 11:34 PM

Logitech MX5000 Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard Support
 
Has anyone had any experience with the Logitech MX5000 in Debian or any other distro? Also, how did you like the keyboard and mouse combo itself?

Thanks.

pmoreau 12-27-2005 06:14 PM

I just got one and have it hooked up to my Mandriva 2006 (i586).
I turned off the system, unplugged my PS/2 Keyboard and mouse, plugged in the BT dongle into my USB2 hub, turned on, pressed the connect buttons and I'm up and running.
Now, if I can figure out how/get software to get the touch sliders and LCD to do more, that would be great.

shadowcat 12-28-2005 10:19 AM

What do you mean by how "to get the touch sliders and LCD to do more"? Do you mean they don't work at all in Linux or do you wish you could change their functionality?

Also, do you have any other Bluetooth devices? Can you connect those to your new dongle?

Thanks

*Edit* Have you experienced any lag from the keyboard and mouse?

pmoreau 12-29-2005 11:36 AM

I have no functionality of the sliders or any of the smart buttons.
The LCD displays which button has been pushed and the internal
keyboard calculator works but nothing more than normal keystrokes
are recognized by Linux. In order for the additional features to
work two way communication is needed between the keyboard and computer.
Logitech supplies software for this but for now it's Windows Only.

For Bluetooth, I have also been unable to get Linux to see any more
than the Keyboard and mouse. It does not seem to recognize the
BlueTooth Net device.

/etc/init.d/bluetooth start is run at startup but hciconfig shows nothing.
I have not spent too much time on this yet though since my first reason
for getting this keyboard was for a good quality wireless keyboard and
mouse without multiple dongles and most of all, the laser mx1000 mouse.

I have the wireless (non-bluetooth) version of this mouse at work
and love it.

systemsos 08-24-2006 05:00 AM

Lag normally only presents itself to me in Windows when a song changes, and it updates it's LCD.

As for in Linux (& windows) the only lag I have is the few split seconds i wait when i press a key when I haven't used it for a little while. The mouse is the same. I just hit the ctrl or nudge the mouse before using anything though when i first turn on or come back from a break.

<3 The Keyboard + Mouse combo. Costs a pretty penny but it's ever so nice to type on ^_^

Edit: I too am trying to find out how to use the additional buttons and such. Currently, I haven't found anything that helps..... I do intend to muck around with the keyboard layout however - see what gives me what.

pmoreau 08-25-2006 05:33 PM

Extra Keys with Linux
 
Try setkeycodes for Linux

I tried to put the link here but this site won't let me.... Need
to post at least 3 posts before it will let me... wow....

Anyways, your linux should already have it, if not, it's easy to
find on the web.

Still no luck with the USB dongle and the LCD screen.....

Well, setkeycodes does not work on this keyboard....
The special keys on this board does not send keycodes but must
me something unique with the Drivers and Bluetooth... Bummer.

systemsos 08-28-2006 02:41 AM

Sadly - I don't think logitech will ever release the drivers for running the LCD screen. Short of someone putting enough effort into it to write up a new set of protocols for linux systems, I don't think we'll get it working any time soon.

The bluetooth on Ubuntu Drapper Drake (32bit) simply works for me. No issues. I HAVE noted an error with my mouse though when running Slackware off a live CD. Up and down worked, but i couldn't move the mouse side to side.. >_< Painful. Back to mini-laptop mouse for that experience. (and then quickly back to Ubuntu).

Despite the bluetooth keyboard and mouse both working - I still haven't been able to connect to anything else - gnome-bluetooth manager simply doesn't load, if I dug into the logs I'm sure I'd find why, but it's not that much of an issue at the moment (mass storage compatible phone + datacable makes it appear as another drive).

I'm looking into setkey codes now. Will report back with some findings.

pmoreau 08-29-2006 10:24 AM

By Ubuntu and bluetooth simply works, are you saying that the Bluetooth, other than keyboard and mouse, is working? If so, that is great news. You can communicate with your phone and other bluetooth storage devices? What Phone do you have? I have a Treo650 and would love to be able to work with it via bluetooth. Anyways, if all this works, it should be pretty minor, except possibly the LCD display, to get other things working. Have you looked into the some of the info in /proc to see way devices are detected via the bluetooth?

Quote:

Originally Posted by systemsos
Sadly - I don't think logitech will ever release the drivers for running the LCD screen. Short of someone putting enough effort into it to write up a new set of protocols for linux systems, I don't think we'll get it working any time soon.

The bluetooth on Ubuntu Drapper Drake (32bit) simply works for me. No issues. I HAVE noted an error with my mouse though when running Slackware off a live CD. Up and down worked, but i couldn't move the mouse side to side.. >_< Painful. Back to mini-laptop mouse for that experience. (and then quickly back to Ubuntu).

Despite the bluetooth keyboard and mouse both working - I still haven't been able to connect to anything else - gnome-bluetooth manager simply doesn't load, if I dug into the logs I'm sure I'd find why, but it's not that much of an issue at the moment (mass storage compatible phone + datacable makes it appear as another drive).

I'm looking into setkey codes now. Will report back with some findings.


systemsos 08-30-2006 01:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pmoreau
By Ubuntu and bluetooth simply works, are you saying that the Bluetooth, other than keyboard and mouse, is working? If so, that is great news.

I'm the bearer of bad news - no, other bluetooth devices don't work. I think it actually has something to do now with Legacy support and the way I've set it up. Logitech works one of two ways.

Firstly - with the software installed through Windows, you pair up your mouse and keyboard (as you would with any bluetooth device), by doing so you are using the dongal you get with the mouse and keyboard as a Bluetooth HUB (aka, connect to more devices etc.)

Secondly - you can use it without software. To pair to two devices (mouse and keyboard to your PC), you use the "connect now" button on firstly the dongal itself, and then on the keyboard/mouse - the two devices find each other and then start talking. Using the keyboard and mouse this way - I don't think ubuntu see's the bluetooth hub as anything more than a USB Mouse and Keyboard (although - under devices it does say Bluetooth HUB). As such - when i Run Bluetooth manager, Ubuntu has no idea what the hell I'm on about as my "bluetooth hub" is simply a USB mouse and keyboard. Hence why you can _still_ use your BIOS settings, commandline, etc - while not having the software from logitech installed.

So to sum up - no, I don't have my phone connected through bluetooth - I just use my datacable that came with the phone (samsung D600) and when set in my phone, Ubuntu detects it right away as a Mass Storage device.

Someone correct me - but with Ubuntu not actually seeing my mouse and keyboard as "bluetooth" devices, as in the first scenerio - I don't think I will ever have this adapter working with my phone (or anything else bluetooth). Ever. I'm sure if I disable legacy support for USB mouse and keyboards in BIOS, and install the bluetooth software, then paired, etc. etc. like you would with Windows and the software - you might be able to get it to work. But I'm happy just the way it is.

EDIT: Minus the media keys not working of course. Still haven't got that going yet.

pmoreau 08-31-2006 09:57 AM

The way I understand it, the BT dongle that comes with the BlueTooth setup sees the Keyboard and Mouse but interface these devices to the system as ordinary USB devices. I was able to connect the dongle, Keyboard and Mouse and boot straight into Linux and they worked fine, no software installed. In fact, My Linux system has no bluetooth drivers installed. I looked in the /proc (can't remember where from here) and it did see a bluetooth dongle but no idea what to do with it. I tried playing around and loading various BT drivers to no avail. I looked around on the Web for Linux support and came up empty. Later I rebooted into Winders and loaded the driver and got the clock to come up on the Keyboard LCD. Didn't play any further the the BT from windows. Rebooted back to Linux (99.999% of the time, the system runs this) and the clock was still up. I run Mandriva 10. I plan to update the OS soon... Maybe then....

Quote:

Originally Posted by systemsos
I'm the bearer of bad news - no, other bluetooth devices don't work. I think it actually has something to do now with Legacy support and the way I've set it up. Logitech works one of two ways.

Firstly - with the software installed through Windows, you pair up your mouse and keyboard (as you would with any bluetooth device), by doing so you are using the dongal you get with the mouse and keyboard as a Bluetooth HUB (aka, connect to more devices etc.)

Secondly - you can use it without software. To pair to two devices (mouse and keyboard to your PC), you use the "connect now" button on firstly the dongal itself, and then on the keyboard/mouse - the two devices find each other and then start talking. Using the keyboard and mouse this way - I don't think ubuntu see's the bluetooth hub as anything more than a USB Mouse and Keyboard (although - under devices it does say Bluetooth HUB). As such - when i Run Bluetooth manager, Ubuntu has no idea what the hell I'm on about as my "bluetooth hub" is simply a USB mouse and keyboard. Hence why you can _still_ use your BIOS settings, commandline, etc - while not having the software from logitech installed.

So to sum up - no, I don't have my phone connected through bluetooth - I just use my datacable that came with the phone (samsung D600) and when set in my phone, Ubuntu detects it right away as a Mass Storage device.

Someone correct me - but with Ubuntu not actually seeing my mouse and keyboard as "bluetooth" devices, as in the first scenerio - I don't think I will ever have this adapter working with my phone (or anything else bluetooth). Ever. I'm sure if I disable legacy support for USB mouse and keyboards in BIOS, and install the bluetooth software, then paired, etc. etc. like you would with Windows and the software - you might be able to get it to work. But I'm happy just the way it is.

EDIT: Minus the media keys not working of course. Still haven't got that going yet.


techie2_98 12-05-2006 03:46 PM

Anything new
 
Does anyone have anything new about this keyboard with Linux?

Thanks!

Joe

pmoreau 12-06-2006 08:23 AM

Logitech MX5000 Bluetooth Mouse and Keyboard Support
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by techie2_98
Does anyone have anything new about this keyboard with Linux?

Thanks!

Joe

Afraid not. I'm still using it with Linux and as a keyboard and mouse, it's fine. No functions with the sliders and buttons. My system is Dual Boot so I booted once into Winders and Loaded the driver so the Keyboard's clock was programmed. Rebooting into Linux and the Clock is still set and running.

akabatman2 01-16-2007 10:05 PM

MX5000 Keyboard / MX 1000 Mouse - Bluetooth
 
Hi everyone,

What a cool bluetooth keyboard combo. Too bad it doesn't work well with linux.

I have the Logitech MX5000 / MX1000 mouse bluetooth combo and have only succeeded in having KBluetoothD recognize the keyboard and mouse, but they don't allow me to do anything with them. I have also succeeded in using my VX8100 cell phone as a bluetooth modem using the usb bluetooth dongle that comes with the MX5000.

Sure would be cool if someone knew what settings in xorg.conf or some way of using all of the cool functionality with this bluetooth keyboard/mouse set.

Anyway, if you hear anything further, please keep me in the loop.
It is sad that this wonderful keyboard and mouse only work in Windows XP.

pmoreau 01-17-2007 08:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by akabatman2
Hi everyone,

What a cool bluetooth keyboard combo. Too bad it doesn't work well with linux.

I have the Logitech MX5000 / MX1000 mouse bluetooth combo and have only succeeded in having KBluetoothD recognize the keyboard and mouse, but they don't allow me to do anything with them. I have also succeeded in using my VX8100 cell phone as a bluetooth modem using the usb bluetooth dongle that comes with the MX5000.

Sure would be cool if someone knew what settings in xorg.conf or some way of using all of the cool functionality with this bluetooth keyboard/mouse set.

Anyway, if you hear anything further, please keep me in the loop.
It is sad that this wonderful keyboard and mouse only work in Windows XP.

So, you can't use the Keyboard and mouse at all in Linux? I'm using them just fine without any BT drivers installed but cannot use any of the smart keys or LCD display. You also say you can use the BT dongle with KBluetoothD and use your BT enabled cell? What Distro are you using and what driver(s)? I'm not familiar with KBluetoothD but I'll look it up. I'm currently running Mandriva PowerPack 2007.

akabatman2 01-17-2007 09:25 AM

KblueoothD with MX5000 Keyboard / MX1000 mouse
 
Hi pmoreau,

I am running OpenSuse 10.2 with KDE Desktop. KbluetoothD is a KDE program. It puts a little bluetooth symbol that looks like the B for bluetooth that you get in windows, but it uses the KDE "K".

In order to get it to work as a modem, you have to create a device called /dev/rfcomm0 and edit some configuration files.

http://www.howardforums.com/showthre...hreadid=390674

I can get it to work as a bluetooth modem using the USB dongle that comes with my MX5000 Keyboard / MX1000 Mouse combo.

Yes, if you disable bluetooth or if you remove the dongle and reinsert it into your usb port, this disconnects it from the Linux bluetooth drivers and then it will function as a basic keyboard/mouse without any special keys. I don't know about you guys but I find this pointless, since I am using the MX5000 bluetooth dongle, It is more useful as a bluetooth modem than a keyboard. Shouldn't have to muck around with it to get it to work. The funny thing is, KbluetoothD will recognize the keyboard and mouse as a bluetooth device, but won't move the mouse pointer or relay any keystrokes to the operating system. I am going to guess that it is an issue with xorg.conf / Sax2, because, KbluetoothD pops up a dialog to let me know that it has detected the mouse and or keyboard and my VX8100 cell phone, when I activate modem2 from Kinternet.

Anyway, if anyone ever figures out how to get the MX5000/MX1000 to work in linux like it does in Windows, let me know. I am all for open source, but this is yet another reason why I have a dual boot setup, because at least windows gets it's drivers working out of the box.(for the most part at least).


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