Ok, i hope i got the right forum section.

According to "http://www.theinquirer.net/default.aspx?article=24638" linux will die out relatively soon. Where is the open-source community going after it happens?


regards, rotty

Complete nonsense.

...and you most certainly did not get the right forum section

Well hold on, ok i did not get the right part of the forum. My mistake, sorry about that.

And to randyding, wow i have not heard a less informative reponse in many years.

I hope that you are right, i like linux and don't want it to go away. Please post links to support your answer or explain it yourself, i am very interested to hear how linux is going to survive without going paid-for and very expensive if so.

The author is speaking from their ass. Do not believe what he is telling in his article.

Linux is under a license that makes this issue will never happen. The future is Open Source and many companies agree.

Just recently Novell programmer resigned and joined Google.

http://www.playfuls.com/news_05615_T...Protester.html

People argue with me about SUSE is not Linux. Again SUSE is not Linux. It is now Windows-Linux.

It's been around for 15 years. Free software has been around since the early 1980's. Neither of them are going away soon.

From the article: "This whole East Fork scheme is a failure from the start. It brings nothing positive to the table, costs you money, and rights. If you want to use Linux to view your legitimately purchased media, you will be a criminal."

History repeating?

Up until 2001, it was illegal to watch DVDs under Linux too.

More info here:

http://www.linuxvideo.org/lists/livi...ews/press.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DeCSS

"Intel has handed the keys to the digital media kingdom to several convicted monopolists who have no care at all for their customers."

If the Democrats win the next US Presidential election (which, from an outsider's viewpoint seems highly likely), will the US government's treatment of "convicted monopolists" change? I seem to recall something about the Clinton government wanting to break Microsoft up into smaller business units in order to limit it's ability to leverage it's monopoly. Of course this was all swept under the rug when G.W. "straight-as-an-arrow" Bush took office. Microsoft seem to be the first convicted monopolist in US history which is being allowed (or even encouraged) to leverage it's monopoly power.

Personally, I'm not worried. Linux is here to stay. You can't stop Linux. Nobody can stop Linux. Microsoft are trying though.

the fact is I never heard of this and we are at the end of Q4 2006 so it should've come out almost a year ago. drm is nothing new. hardware manufacturers only supporting microsoft is nothing new. large companies trying to change the law for their benefit is nothing new.

this horrible fate would depend on a few things: everyone who could afford to spend money on entertainment would have to be able to afford the purchase of intel's toy. no competing product being released (has that ever happened in this country?) tv, radio and retail stores disappear entirely. everyone moves to the us. the laws do change. everyone decides that breaking the law is worse then getting ripped off (history shows us that unfair laws are often ignored.) the chances of all that happening are quite slim.

linux and open source do not depend on any type of income or profit because they are developed by people who donate their time. it isn't limited to the us it's all over the world and as such no one government has the power to kill it. no my friend this is nothing to worry about. nothing short of an act of god or alien invasion could kill linux; and either is just as likely to encourage it.

I don't feel the need to support complete nonsense with links. You can search google just as easily as I can. Your gullible and misinformed if you believe anything in that article. I couldn't read past the first few paragraphs without barfing. You should spend more time researching on your own before you come around here and insult people.

Randyding's answer says it all really. From "The Enquirer - 24 Dec 06)" in an article "Linux man Hubert Mantel returns to Novell" comes the following quote :-
"A while ago Linux was not taken seriously. Now even Microsoft acknowledges that it exists and will not go away."
Two contrasting views in the same publication.

We will all be meeting at a tavern down the street.

Interesting...an old IW technique. Find some obscure propaganda piece, and reference or repeat it on multiple media outlets and forums, innocently asking whether true. The effect, of course is in further propagating the FUD effects. I would take neither the referenced article nor the question seriously.

My original post had no hostility in it. I am trying to establish facts, i had heard of Microsoft trying to shutdown Linux distros a while ago and did a search to see if it were true, i could not find much to do with it.

randyding: You really jump the gun allot don't you? First of i found that article by doing a google search, maybe the right words to search for escaped me but at least i tried. "support complete nonsense" i thought i meant supporting your own argument with links, so your saying your argument is complete nonsense?? so far i am inclined to agree.

cwej: If i don't have more qualifications/experiance then you sincerely i hope i don't turn out like you!! If i have more, then step-down from insulting me and add something useful or go away.

With due respect (except to randyding), at least i got some reasonable responses. If i was trying to propagate FUD i would create a blog with miss-informed information and rants, but instead i have decided to ask the right people that are informed and BREAK the FUD that is circulating that the average user will run into!!.

I was really not trying to get personnel, this one thread has totally shocked me compared to the response of an intelligent community i have come to expect from people at this forum.

so far from the respectful answers, i don't doubt that the open source community will take this lying down, what about the legal stance? Will it be illegal to use linux as circumventing the blocking of the hardware is technically illegal??

I know that linux is open source, but to be able to use the Intel and AMD hardware a special driver is required, and that driver is patented then it would be illegal to create that driver or reverse engineer that driver for use in linux OS. Making any linux OS that can work on intel and amd computers illegal?

EDIT: This is the only forum i have posted on regarding this issue, whatever your smoking "cwej" pass us some (-: .

It should be noted by everyone that that article is well over a year old and that a lot has happened since it was written.

The OP posted this as a debating point and to get informed views, jumping all over him for daring, daring I say, to mention DRM or ask about the future of Linux is a pointless activity. Linux is all growed up now and doesn't need lots of shouting to get itself noticed.

If you wish to continue a rational discussion, stick around. If you wish to attack the OP, leave.

Ok, i did post at:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,17512351?r=587

but that was more of a general rant about Microsoft. A person posted saying that intel have allowed Apple to use their OS on intel hardware. Apple OS is a paid-for OS so Apple would need to "rent" a license which would most likely raise the price of the OS a fair bit to make Microsoft's more competitive, which would be a problem for the open source community.

If you find a wizard who can tell the future, ask him/her call me, I have a few nasty questions to ask.

Quite some time ago Windows was said to die soon. It's still going on today, though having some troubles, but going on.

Unix was once said to die away; to me it seems it's not dying.

And Linux..well, if you count the number of distributions popping up every day, the amount of software developed, the number of places where it's implemented (you don't probably even realize that it's all around), it certainly won't die soon. Well, in the case every computer vanished tomorrow, then probably yes. But my guess is that before Linux is dead, at least three things happen:

1) Microsoft is forgotten, and even all the papyrus tales about it have vanished.
2) USA sends troops to the closest few planet systems, just to find out they already have population inside, Bill Gates returns from the dead and starts playing Jesus, and
3) Corn flakes begin to taste good without any add-ons

As you can see, two of those are probable, but one is not. Shortly said, Linux isn't going anywhere; it might evolve, change outfit, get new names, be implemented in new ways and whatever you can think of, but certainly I don't see any reason why it could die, even if some wanted it to.