Asking for advice here:

Really tired of hardware issues in Windows-designed boxes, and am looking at boxes on the Ubuntu Hardware List. Two HPs have been disasters, and I can't build another one cuz "old age vision."

I'm looking for selection advice between 2 Lenovos, one new and one refurbished. I know, go for new, except there's $150 difference.

Here's the Refurb:
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/desktop...s-towers/m92p/
and I can buy this locally with a 14 day return on it.

Or the new one:
https://www.lenovo.com/ca/en/desktop.../p/11TC1MT75TC
which I presume will be an online purchase.

Any feedback hugely appreciated, I'm so frustrated with keeping these damn things running.

the only comments i have are running older IBM/lenovo laptops and they were the r series and T and x series. with an intel wireless chip in every one except one they all ran linux! the old linux gurus i knew all ran thinkpads. i would get another one in a heartbeat. i wish i had a lit keyboard for various reasons - but i have never had any major issues at all. not even minor for what it is worth.

6+ year old technology. Lots of expansion room. Similar but probably much cheaper @ $150USD: https://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...9SIADT25SY1254

Near-current technology, using DDR4 2400 RAM. Ultra compact case, likely no room inside for more than what it ships with, including rather modest storage space if in fact 128G as in that URL.

IMO there should be a lot bigger difference in price between them than $150.

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No experience with either one.

The older one should work WONDERFULLY with any form of linux you want to use. I've never had issues with anything Ivy Bridge working on linux. IT's not the newest technology, but until 8th generation chips, was honestly not far off in performance from the newer chips due to INtels not having any competition.

The new one will probably work fine, but don't touch it. It's not Zen based chip, it's the older Excavator/Bulldozer based cores. While they're not actually horrible for business applications, and the integrated graphics is actually not bad, even with it being brand new vs. a 6 generation old machine, the old machine will beat it quite handily in terms of almost every performance metric (except graphics). Only way the AMD chip is worth the price is if it's cheaper. Yes, those old AMD chips perform that badly.