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Kubuntu 8.0.4+Sony Vaio DesktopTower Athlon1GHZ (fan is 24h on max speed)

Kubuntu 8.0.4+Sony Vaio DesktopTower Athlon1GHZ (fan is 24h on max speed)

i dont know how to control the fan speed
please help

how is it connected inside? is it connected directly to the PSU or the MB (Power Supply Unit) (Mother Board)

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Originally Posted by Person_1873 (Post 3165382)

how is it connected inside? is it connected directly to the PSU or the MB (Power Supply Unit) (Mother Board)

what do you mean by directly?
its the standard configuration and the powersuply is conected with a cable and the fan for the cpu is conected with a cable to. please define what you mean

am i wrong time wrong place?

all i have left is this seems like it is a PowerMangement problem, please help

i cant even use the energy saving functions from the CPU its running also 24h on max speed it never does throttle back

if any additional information is needed please let me know

what i'm asking is, is the fan connected directly to your power supply or is it connected to your motherboard? if it is connected to your power supply without going through your mother board, then it wil run constantly, otherwise the bios will control it

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Originally Posted by Person_1873 (Post 3171730)

i dont know that but i fo know that in windows xp i need to install a driver then the fan is running at lower speed and controlled and goes up with the speed only if the tempreture is rising

1. Is APM or ACPI turned on in the BIOS
2. Is the kernel loading the drivers for various bits:
lsmod | less
Look for 'thermal', 'fan', 'processor'.

Useful tools include:
acpi (dislpay info)
acpid (control power management)
acpitool (play with power settings)

We may be able to identify some of your controller chips and any special software needed if you post the output of:
lspci -v

Quote:

Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 3171850)

doing lsmod|less

i have thermal fan and processor entries

the result of lspci -v

Code:

00:00.0 Host bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 730 Host (rev 02)

        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32

        Memory at e8000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64M]

        Capabilities: <access denied>



00:00.1 IDE interface: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] 5513 [IDE] (rev d0) (prog-if 80 [Master])

        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 128

        [virtual] Memory at 000001f0 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8]

        [virtual] Memory at 000003f0 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1]

        [virtual] Memory at 00000170 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8]

        [virtual] Memory at 00000370 (type 3, non-prefetchable) [size=1]

        I/O ports at d800 [size=16]



00:01.0 ISA bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS85C503/5513 (LPC Bridge)

        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 0



00:01.2 USB Controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller (rev 07) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])

        Subsystem: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] USB 1.1 Controller

        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11

        Memory at e7800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]



00:01.4 Multimedia audio controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] SiS PCI Audio Accelerator (rev 02)

        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 80e2

        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10

        I/O ports at d400 [size=256]

        Memory at e7000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

        Capabilities: <access denied>



00:02.0 PCI bridge: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] Virtual PCI-to-PCI bridge (AGP) (prog-if 00 [Normal decode])

        Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0

        Bus: primary=00, secondary=01, subordinate=01, sec-latency=0

        I/O behind bridge: 0000c000-0000cfff

        Memory behind bridge: e6800000-e6ffffff

        Prefetchable memory behind bridge: eff00000-febfffff



00:0e.0 Multimedia video controller: Sony Corporation Unknown device 8087 (rev 01)

        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 8087

        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 10

        I/O ports at b800 [size=256]

        Memory at e6000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]

        Capabilities: <access denied>



00:0f.0 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 80)

        Subsystem: GVC Corporation Unknown device 0810

        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 3

        Memory at 30000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

        Bus: primary=00, secondary=02, subordinate=05, sec-latency=176

        Memory window 0: 20000000-23fff000 (prefetchable)

        Memory window 1: 24000000-27fff000

        I/O window 0: 00001000-000010ff

        I/O window 1: 00001400-000014ff

        16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001



00:0f.1 CardBus bridge: Ricoh Co Ltd RL5c476 II (rev 80)

        Subsystem: GVC Corporation Unknown device 0810

        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 168, IRQ 11

        Memory at 30001000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=4K]

        Bus: primary=00, secondary=06, subordinate=09, sec-latency=176

        Memory window 0: 28000000-2bfff000 (prefetchable)

        Memory window 1: 2c000000-2ffff000

        I/O window 0: 00001800-000018ff

        I/O window 1: 00001c00-00001cff

        16-bit legacy interface ports at 0001



00:10.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 80ea

        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 11

        I/O ports at b400 [size=256]

        Memory at e5800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=256]

        Capabilities: <access denied>



00:13.0 FireWire (IEEE 1394): Texas Instruments TSB12LV26 IEEE-1394 Controller (Link) (prog-if 10 [OHCI])

        Subsystem: Sony Corporation Unknown device 80d2

        Flags: bus master, medium devsel, latency 32, IRQ 3

        Memory at e5000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=2K]

        Memory at e4800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]

        Capabilities: <access denied>



01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc Radeon RV200 QW [Radeon 7500] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller])

        Subsystem: PC Partner Limited RV200 QW [Radeon 7500 LE]

        Flags: bus master, stepping, 66MHz, medium devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11

        Memory at f0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=128M]

        I/O ports at c800 [size=256]

        Memory at e6800000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=64K]

        Expansion ROM at effe0000 [disabled] [size=128K]

        Capabilities: <access denied>



06:00.0 Communication controller: Agere Systems LT WinModem

        Subsystem: GVC Corporation Unknown device 0404

        Flags: medium devsel, IRQ 11

        Memory at 2c000000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [disabled] [size=256]

        I/O ports at 1c00 [disabled] [size=8]

        I/O ports at 1800 [disabled] [size=256]

        Capabilities: <access denied>

here the results from acpitool and acpid
acpitool
Battery status : <not available>
AC adapter : <not available>
Thermal info : <not available>

acpid
acpid: can't open /proc/acpi/event: Device or resource busy

beside that xsensonrs and ksensors is showing me the fan speed but i cant change the fan speed i tryed it as a root user but it seems not possible.

Did you check the BIOS to make sure ACPI is turned on?

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Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 3172977)

Did you check the BIOS to make sure ACPI is turned on?

i dont have an option for that

It is bizarre that you can't access the BIOS and turn on ACPI. What you posted indicates that ACPI is not running; the other possibilities are that the bios has APM instead or that Sony has proprietary software for controlling the fan.

It is also possible that acpi is simply disabled in the kernel by default.
Here are 2 different things to try:

1. Boot the kernel with the extra paramater: acpi=on

2. Boot with the extra parameter: apm=on -- then, install 'apmd'

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Originally Posted by pinniped (Post 3173065)

i tryed with acpi=on

here is the result

http://paste.org/index.php?id=3015

Quote:

Originally Posted by shadowsa (Post 3173438)

i tryed with acpi=on

here is the result

http://paste.org/index.php?id=3015

here is the result with apm=on

http://paste.org/index.php?id=3020

apm --verbose gives me
No APM support in kernel

modprobe apm gives
FATAL: Error inserting apm (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/apm.ko): No such device

/etc/init.d/powersaved start
* Starting power management daemon powersaved FATAL: Error inserting speedstep_centrino (/lib/modules/2.6.24-16-generic/kernel/arch/x86/kernel/cpu/cpufreq/speedstep-centrino.ko): No such device

OK, so your post about ACPI shows that it's up and running (when you supply acpi=on). The only other thing you can do (after switching it on) is to play around to see what ACPI functions are supported. Not all hardware of that vintage had a control of the fan speed - does your fan have at least 3 wires on it? If it's only 2 wires, it's not a speed-controllable type. So stick to the 'acpi=on' stuff and play around.

The apm results suggest that APM isn't supported at all on your machine. Ignore the "speedstep" stuff; most CPUs that vintage had no speed control (except for the rare hardware switches to control a clock).

problem solved by following instructions from here

http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=607614

and crucial was this

http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php...5&postcount=17

this seems like an odd setup, most variable speed fans i've come across, connect into the motherboard and are controlled by a temperature algorithm in the bios, there's generally a setting in the bios to determine the max temperature to let a certain sensor get to before the fan comes in