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ballsystemlord 07-28-2023 02:32 PM

Know of an ink-chip-less Linux compatible color laser printer?
 
I thought I set the bar pretty low when I sought just an ink-chip-less* Linux compatible laser printer, but after searching for hours, both on retail websites, on manufacturer websites, on the cups website, and on thinkpenguin, I cannot find these very very basic things in a printer.
HP used to be the "go-to" solution, but not anymore.

Granted, if the chip for the ink is really cheap, it doesn't matter if the ink requires chips. I just cannot afford >=$100 per toner cartridge -- or half that for half the toner.

Thanks!



* Also called "coded ink". It means that the ink has a chip that only allows you to use "genuine" ink from the manufacturer.

PS: The lack of any modern printer on the cups website makes it look like the cups support for printers is a dead endeavor.

smallpond 07-28-2023 03:27 PM

Not sure what CUPS website you looked at, but here is the foomatic database: https://openprinting.org/printers
What printer were you looking for?

Anyway, you need to specify what type of printer you want. How many pages per month? What quality do you need? Any special formats or materials? Do you need both black-and-white and color? Office printers are different from typical home printers.

You won't find a chipless print cartridge because it is not possible to sell a printer with a profit margin. All are sold close to or below cost and make money on service and supplies.

ChuangTzu 07-28-2023 03:29 PM

Always had great success with Brother laser printers (although I use Black/White). I would start there.

boughtonp 07-28-2023 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smallpond (Post 6444888)
You won't find a chipless print cartridge because it is not possible to sell a printer with a profit margin. All are sold close to or below cost and make money on service and supplies.

But you can get chipless ink tank printers, where ink is sold in bottles that get poured into a reservoir.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supertank_printer

Of course, those aren't laser printers (as requested in title), but laser toner is powder (not ink), so it's not entirely clear what ballsystemlord is actually after and whether these might be a valid option; answers to the questions in your second paragraph would help.


ballsystemlord 07-28-2023 10:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smallpond (Post 6444888)
Not sure what CUPS website you looked at, but here is the foomatic database: https://openprinting.org/printers

That's where I looked.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smallpond (Post 6444888)
What printer were you looking for?

I tried to describe what I'm looking for in my original post, what was unclear?

Quote:

Originally Posted by smallpond (Post 6444888)
Anyway, you need to specify what type of printer you want. How many pages per month? What quality do you need? Any special formats or materials? Do you need both black-and-white and color? Office printers are different from typical home printers.

1: The laser type.
2: Doesn't matter at this point in time.
3: Something that lasts would be good.
4: Only normal paper and transparent type (I think that's made of plastic).
5: Well a color can do B/W as well so... yes? (I did specify color in the title.)

Quote:

Originally Posted by smallpond (Post 6444888)
You won't find a chipless print cartridge because it is not possible to sell a printer with a profit margin. All are sold close to or below cost and make money on service and supplies.

Well perhaps I can find one with relatively inexpensive 3rd party ink then?
There are 3 problems with 1st party only ink. They charge way too much, they can discontinue production at any time, and any problems with their ink service leaves you in the lurch as you have no other options.
So, for example, my previous printer was the thinkpenguin special, the m251nw by HP. It's ink was chip-type and costs $55 from a 3rd party suppliers. HP changed $100 per toner cartridge.

ballsystemlord 07-28-2023 10:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by boughtonp (Post 6444894)
But you can get chipless ink tank printers, where ink is sold in bottles that get poured into a reservoir.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supertank_printer

Of course, those aren't laser printers (as requested in title), but laser toner is powder (not ink), so it's not entirely clear what ballsystemlord is actually after and whether these might be a valid option; answers to the questions in your second paragraph would help.

I find laser printers to last longer. They don't have a "diaper" (which can leak everywhere* if the printer is not perfectly upright). They don't eat ink, like inkjets do.
Granted, a super tanker is the best when it comes to inkjets, but I'm not really in the market for one.

* I have personal experience with that one. It wasn't fun.


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