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Old 08-16-2005, 02:26 PM   #1
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killed my harddrive?


for some odd reason, I had to reboot my computer by hitting the reset button. NOW...

I'm running slackware 10.0- I was running it at the time of the crash. I couldn't get back into the computer, the startup was taking forever, looping looping, so, another reboot warrented. (forgive me for my impatience) same happened with the debian install on my computer (sarge)
Using the slack bootdisk I could get in. However, only one harddrive would mount. (hda) hdb wouldn't work- and thus I couldn't run any programs. Knoppix boots slowly, but after the monitor went to sleep I have a black screen with a mouse on it.

so, now I find that hdc (my dvd drive) is protesting.

my partitioning scheme:
---hda---
swap 512mb
/boot 500mb
/slack root (extended)
/debian root (extended)
/unassigned root extended
/unassigned root extended
---hdb---
/home 8000MB
/usr 4000MB
/tmp 1000MB
/NTFS 5000MB or so

is there a way I can fix it? (the not working...) I've heard some clunks too...

ARGH. this is frustrating. I can't use knoppix (which has programs) and I can't use the slack boot CD + install cause I can't get to the programs.

Am I screwed?

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Old 08-16-2005, 02:33 PM   #2
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can you boot LiveCD style if you strip the system of hard drives and stuff?
 
Old 08-16-2005, 02:47 PM   #3
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ooh- that's an idea. I'll have to have a look at that.

knoppix boots- just slowly.

development: I can see the hda partitions on my knoppix desktop, though no hdb.

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Old 08-16-2005, 02:54 PM   #4
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ok- typed cfdisk /dev/hdb in the root shell in knoppix, it told me:
Code:
FATAL ERROR: Cannot open disk drive
Press any key to exit cfdisk
(which one is any key? lol)

I can cfdisk dev hda fine.

sigh. Can anyone help me make a diagnosis- I really want to get my data back.

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Old 08-16-2005, 03:08 PM   #5
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It seems kinda funny that the less used drive is acting up. Maybe the problem is somewhere else if you can switch around the drives or put them in another computer to make them work. I have personally experienced the "Data Loss Idiot Syndrome".
 
Old 08-16-2005, 03:36 PM   #6
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I went through the same thing with a friend's laptop drive. You say you heard some clunks? That could be a bad sign. Would this happen to be a Western Digitial drive? I've had 5 WD drives, 2 of which died within the first year. Another made it to almost three years. The 2 were the first 18GB I bought and then the replacement that WD sent me because the first was covered by warranty. #5 is a recently purchased 120GB and, due to past experience, I don't install OSs on it.

Can you isolate that one hard drive in the machine? Make it the only one, as in hda with no hdb? Then boot Knoppix and try 'cat /proc/partitions' and/or fdisk -l. If you can get it to mount at all I would save as may files as I can. Also download tomsrtbt (www.toms.net/rb/) and try booting with it. Another good bootdisk tool is Ultimate Boot CD (www.ultimatebootcd.com). It has a nice collection of dos and linux-based boot tools. Both have a place in my boot disk collection for just such occasions.
 
Old 08-16-2005, 03:59 PM   #7
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western digital? crap. I can't remember which one is which though (2 brands)- reaching for a screwdriver when I'm off work...

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Old 08-16-2005, 04:01 PM   #8
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You heard clunks? The drive is (sometimes) really really really slow?

That hard drive is about to die.

I've had two Western Digitals die like that. The occasional clunk sounds and really really slow access gave me about a week's worth of warning to backup all of my data, after which I kept on using the drive until it died completely.

I also had a Maxtor die like that. I don't remember the exact symptoms that time, but it was something noticeable. I backed up my files and kept using it for about a week before it died completely.

My advice is to STOP USING that drive. If you don't already have enough hard drive space to backup all your files, buy a new drive and wait for it to arrive. Then, the first thing you should do is back up your files.
 
Old 08-16-2005, 04:06 PM   #9
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I should note that since my last hard drive failure, I've gotten seriously clued into the basic concepts of providing cool airflow to hard drives. After that, I haven't had any hard drives die.

I suspect that I killed every one of my dead hard drives with overheating.
 
Old 08-16-2005, 04:10 PM   #10
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This one clunks on start up of computer. Maxtor? crap.

I was into case modding once- maybe it is time to get into it again. Fan bus here I come! (soldering is fun.)

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