LinuxQuestions.org
Help answer threads with 0 replies.
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Hardware
User Name
Password
Linux - Hardware This forum is for Hardware issues.
Having trouble installing a piece of hardware? Want to know if that peripheral is compatible with Linux?

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 07-24-2011, 03:19 PM   #1
nec207
Member
 
Registered: Apr 2011
Posts: 109

Rep: Reputation: 6
Unhappy I need help slow computer? Have to get a new computer.


Should I get a i7 Quad core or i5 duo core?

Some one was telling me that a i7 Quad core would NOT be 1.5 or 2 times faster than the i5 duo core.

Also some people say get a AMD phenom 2 the 6 core or 4 core or i5 or i7.But is it true that the i7 Quad core would NOT be 1.5 or 2 times faster than the i5 duo core.



Also some people say get a Mac computer they rock for video editing as alot of people at hollwood use a Mac and way better than Windows or Linux for video editing.

It takes long time for video editing for me.Just to do 26 minutes takes about 2 hours and that just triming ,removing parts of the video and if I do upscaling ,sharpening or effects it take a very long time.
 
Old 07-24-2011, 04:53 PM   #2
gentisle
Member
 
Registered: May 2005
Location: USA
Distribution: LinuxMint
Posts: 220

Rep: Reputation: 7
You need to repost this with a more apropos title. You might get more responses that way. You might also check out this page written by some arrogant person who doesn't understand that integrity means treating EVERYONE the same regardless of rank, intelligence, etc. Even so, it will help you get better help.

http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
 
Old 07-24-2011, 05:10 PM   #3
onebuck
Moderator
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Summer Midwest USA, Central Illinois, Winter Central Florida
Distribution: Slackware®
Posts: 13,438
Blog Entries: 31

Rep: Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607
Hi,

I like these links for new users;

Netiquette is a set of social conventions that facilitate interaction over networks, ranging from Usenet and mailing lists to blogs and forums'

I usually do a; FYI: I suggest that you look at 'How to Ask Questions the Smart Way' so in the future your queries provide information that will aid us in diagnosis of the problem or query.

How To Ask a Question by XavierP & GrapefruiTgirl is a Great LQ post that was abbreviated from
Raymond & Moen: How To Ask Questions The Smart Way which is the original that gentisle provided.

You could do a Search here on LQ , Google or even DuckDuckGo to find information to help make a decision.
HTH!
 
Old 07-24-2011, 05:44 PM   #4
nec207
Member
 
Registered: Apr 2011
Posts: 109

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 6
What?

Some one smoking crack ? What the hell are they talking about.

Last edited by nec207; 07-24-2011 at 05:46 PM.
 
0 members found this post helpful.
Old 07-24-2011, 05:59 PM   #5
David2010
Member
 
Registered: May 2009
Posts: 255

Rep: Reputation: 23
Quote:
Originally Posted by nec207 View Post
Should I get a i7 Quad core or i5 duo core?

Some one was telling me that a i7 Quad core would NOT be 1.5 or 2 times faster than the i5 duo core.

Also some people say get a AMD phenom 2 the 6 core or 4 core or i5 or i7.But is it true that the i7 Quad core would NOT be 1.5 or 2 times faster than the i5 duo core.



Also some people say get a Mac computer they rock for video editing as alot of people at hollwood use a Mac and way better than Windows or Linux for video editing.

It takes long time for video editing for me.Just to do 26 minutes takes about 2 hours and that just triming ,removing parts of the video and if I do upscaling ,sharpening or effects it take a very long time.
It depends on your price range. A dual core I5 will be significantly cheaper than a quad core I7.

Also are you going to be using Linux on this machine? If so then the I5 will suit you just fine.

If you have plans on using Microsoft Windows then get the quad core I7.

The differences between the Intel I5 and Intel I7 are a great deal more than just clockspeed.

However we would need to see the exact processor specifications you have in plan to buy to be able to compare CPU speed because CPU specs vary.

I always preferred an Intel processor compared to an AMD but it's a preference thing.

For video editing a Mac is WAY better but... ONLY if you are doing video editing or similar work...

Video editing requires a LOT of GPU and CPU power so keep that in mind.

I do a lot of 3D modeling in Windows 7 and my overclocked quad core I5 works just fine.

As to what the other two people are talking about..... Who knows. :-)

Last edited by David2010; 07-24-2011 at 07:05 PM.
 
1 members found this post helpful.
Old 07-24-2011, 10:48 PM   #6
onebuck
Moderator
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Summer Midwest USA, Central Illinois, Winter Central Florida
Distribution: Slackware®
Posts: 13,438
Blog Entries: 31

Rep: Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607
Hi,

Quote:
Originally Posted by nec207 View Post
What?

Some one smoking crack ? What the hell are they talking about.
The links I provided are for your benefit. Suggest that you read them!

You really have not looked very hard for information. Your title and information provide really isn't useful or thorough. That is why I suggested the links to help you form a good post that will help us to aid in answering.

Plus, please change the tone. We are trying to help you help yourself.

I repeat: You could do a Search here on LQ , Google or even DuckDuckGo to find information to help make a decision.
HTH!
 
Old 07-25-2011, 12:12 PM   #7
nec207
Member
 
Registered: Apr 2011
Posts: 109

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by onebuck View Post
Hi,



The links I provided are for your benefit. Suggest that you read them!

You really have not looked very hard for information. Your title and information provide really isn't useful or thorough. That is why I suggested the links to help you form a good post that will help us to aid in answering.

Plus, please change the tone. We are trying to help you help yourself.

I repeat: You could do a Search here on LQ , Google or even DuckDuckGo to find information to help make a decision.
HTH!

Hu ? I still do not know what the hell he is talking about other than some thing about reply or answer.To me it looks like he copied this from some where and that poster was replying to some one else and his post making my head spin of what the helll he is talking about.

I find it strange the moderators here allows posts to get off topic wilth out deleting the off topic posts to keep the pots on topic.

Only David2010 post is on topic and easy to understand.None of the other threads are remotely talking about CPU let alone computers.

Last edited by nec207; 07-25-2011 at 12:16 PM.
 
0 members found this post helpful.
Old 07-25-2011, 01:23 PM   #8
onebuck
Moderator
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Summer Midwest USA, Central Illinois, Winter Central Florida
Distribution: Slackware®
Posts: 13,438
Blog Entries: 31

Rep: Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607
Hi,
Quote:
Originally Posted by nec207 View Post
Hu ? I still do not know what the hell he is talking about other than some thing about reply or answer.To me it looks like he copied this from some where and that poster was replying to some one else and his post making my head spin of what the helll he is talking about.

I find it strange the moderators here allows posts to get off topic wilth out deleting the off topic posts to keep the pots on topic.

Only David2010 post is on topic and easy to understand.None of the other threads are remotely talking about CPU let alone computers.
Look, the links will help you in the future to present queries that are understandable.

My presentations were to help you help yourself to form good queries. Not off topic since your original post was very convoluted. So if you read 'How To Ask a Question by XavierP & GrapefruiTgirl' then you could garner information to form a clear and concise query.

Some searches that you could have found for yourself. I just used your typed keywords.;

'Should I get a i7 Quad core or i5 duo core' search has many links to choose from.

Previous Generation Intel® Core™ i7 Processor - Specifications search results.

Previous Generation Intel® Corei5 Processor - Specifications search results.

You should now be able to form your decision based on the above links. If not then post a query as to what you need help with.

Please change your tone.
BTW, the Links that were provided are originally from 'Slackware-Links'. More than just Slackware® links!

Very useful links!

So yes, the links were copied from 'Slackware-Links' with hope of helping you.

Enough has been said concerning this issue. No one was piling on but to help you to help us aid you by providing useful informational links.
HTH!
 
Old 07-25-2011, 01:38 PM   #9
Amdx2_x64
Member
 
Registered: Jun 2008
Distribution: Left LQ. Mods are too Rude!
Posts: 598

Rep: Reputation: 50
Troll?
 
0 members found this post helpful.
Old 07-25-2011, 03:47 PM   #10
nec207
Member
 
Registered: Apr 2011
Posts: 109

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: 6
Quote:
Originally Posted by Amdx2_x64 View Post
Troll?
You got that right!!!! I dont know what the f--- he is talking about but on some rant about some thing. .

But most sites I'm on you will get a big infraction or your account suspended for doing that.

Most sites are very picky with being on topic and not derailing the thread.

Last edited by nec207; 07-25-2011 at 03:53 PM.
 
Old 07-26-2011, 08:05 AM   #11
onebuck
Moderator
 
Registered: Jan 2005
Location: Summer Midwest USA, Central Illinois, Winter Central Florida
Distribution: Slackware®
Posts: 13,438
Blog Entries: 31

Rep: Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607Reputation: 2607
This thread is closed! If you wish to contact me via PM then we can discuss the issues.
 
Old 07-26-2011, 01:38 PM   #12
jeremy
root
 
Registered: Jun 2000
Distribution: Debian, Red Hat, Slackware, Fedora, Ubuntu
Posts: 13,022

Rep: Reputation: 3751Reputation: 3751Reputation: 3751Reputation: 3751Reputation: 3751Reputation: 3751Reputation: 3751Reputation: 3751Reputation: 3751Reputation: 3751Reputation: 3751
I've re-opened this thread. All posts after this one should be on topic to the original post.

--jeremy
 
Old 07-26-2011, 11:35 PM   #13
cascade9
Senior Member
 
Registered: Mar 2011
Location: Brisneyland
Distribution: Debian, aptosid
Posts: 3,753

Rep: Reputation: 934Reputation: 934Reputation: 934Reputation: 934Reputation: 934Reputation: 934Reputation: 934Reputation: 934
@ nec207- onebuck was not 'ranting'. It was an attempt to get you to think more about the questions you were asking. Our answers are based on your questions, if you dont have a clear question then its very difficult to make a good answer.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nec207 View Post
Some one was telling me that a i7 Quad core would NOT be 1.5 or 2 times faster than the i5 duo core.
It wont be, or it will be. Depending on what task you want to do.

A single core only task will not be that much faster with a quad core i7 than a dual core i5 (BTW, its 'dual core' not 'duo core'). It might be a little faster, due to the larger cache on the i7s, but only for some tasks.

If you start looking at multi-threaded tasks, as long as the task will use more than 2 cores a quad core i7 would be faster than a dual core i5.

Quote:
Originally Posted by nec207 View Post
Also some people say get a Mac computer they rock for video editing as alot of people at hollwood use a Mac and way better than Windows or Linux for video editing.
To get a decent apple machine for video editing, you'd have to get a Mac Pro, prices for them _start_ at about $2500 US (for a quad core version). You want to pay that much for a system? Go ahead. But you could get a normal (non-apple) computer with more cores for much less....

It would only be worth it if you were using apple software (Final Cut) anyway, if you are using multi-platform video editing software OS wont make any real difference.
 
Old 07-27-2011, 07:19 AM   #14
johnsfine
LQ Guru
 
Registered: Dec 2007
Distribution: Centos
Posts: 5,286

Rep: Reputation: 1191Reputation: 1191Reputation: 1191Reputation: 1191Reputation: 1191Reputation: 1191Reputation: 1191Reputation: 1191Reputation: 1191
Quote:
Originally Posted by nec207 View Post
It takes long time for video editing for me.Just to do 26 minutes takes about 2 hours and that just triming ,removing parts of the video and if I do upscaling ,sharpening or effects it take a very long time.
The disk speed might also be a significant factor. The ram size is likely a significant factor. This isn't just a question about cpu speed. The first sectors on a disk are typically over twice as fast as the last sectors (and in between speeds for the sectors in between). If disk speed is important to your video editing, you might want a dedicated partition for the videos as the first physical partition on the drive when you set up the new system.

But your main question seems to focus on the merits of 2 vs. 4 cores. Answering that requires knowing how well the video editing software you are using multi threads. I won't know that answer anyway, but probably others here would have better info on that if you told them which video editing software you plan to use.

Which format and compression the video is stored in might also be significant in estimating how effective multi threading would be in working with that video.

I have done video editing on both Windows and Linux, but not a lot. On Windows I found the UI of video editing tools incredibly vicious and confusing. The programs were also slow and unreliable. On Linux, I was still initially confused by the tools, but no where near as badly. Many actions that are confusing or tricky in Windows are transparent in Linux. On the same hardware, Linux video editing was also slightly faster and a lot more reliable.

My knowledge of Mac video editing is all second hand. But my general understanding is that it is easier to use than Linux, but not faster than Linux. If you are experienced, you are likely past most of the ease of use issues. Especially if you compared systems at the same price point, I expect video editing in Linux would be faster.

Last edited by johnsfine; 07-27-2011 at 07:34 AM.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Slow computer.. oshgosh General 12 12-15-2006 01:19 PM
computer is slow blackman890 Mandriva 6 12-04-2004 09:14 AM
Why is my computer so SLOW? Kairelyn Linux - Newbie 7 09-17-2004 04:57 PM
Up2Date yes, but very slow computer now Ogledbyoldmen Linux - Software 1 09-16-2003 12:48 AM
Slow old computer javax Linux - General 16 11-05-2002 12:22 AM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Hardware

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:16 AM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Facebook: linuxquestions Google+: linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration