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Old 08-19-2004, 09:53 AM   #1
vladilinsky
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i Need help idetifiying a hardware problem


Hello,
I have a
cpu --athlon 1800
MoBo -- gigibyte ga-7vrxp
RAM -- 512 meg
Video -- radeon 8500 LE
sound -- Hercules DigiFire 7.1

os -- slack 10
I think that is every thing that could be Important

My problems are random crashing (complete system crash, even sys Rq can't help)
programs that i can make it crash in are
UT2004,- usually while loading a level, sometimes while it is playing
mprime, - about 1 - 2 minites in
compiling my hsf modem drivers (but only on 2.6.6 and later kernels, so it might be a different problem)
blender 3d - randomly

Memtest 86 - no problems

If anyone can think of any tests or ideas i can run they would be apreceated

and one last question i am thinking about buying a sata hd, does linux support them yet? i have googled it and i get mixed results.

THanks

Last edited by vladilinsky; 08-19-2004 at 11:36 PM.
 
Old 08-19-2004, 10:49 AM   #2
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What are your temperatures like? Looks like your system crashes with CPU intensive programs - you might have a heat problem.
 
Old 08-19-2004, 11:03 AM   #3
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See this thread, I believe you are experiencing the same issue I was.

-Scott
 
Old 08-19-2004, 01:10 PM   #4
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system temp

My computer seams to run at
44 C / 111 F cpu idle
36 C / 96 F - System Idle

47 C / 116 F cpu after playing ut2004 for half hour
42 C / 107 F System after playing ut for half hour

Are these temps ok?

I do not believe that the second reply is my problem because i have a via chipset not a NVIDIA Nforce
plus the link seams to be broken ( the one on the linked page not the first one)

Any other ideas, or programs i can check my comp with?
One interesting side note it seams to crash now whenever i use my mouse to click " spell Check or Submit Reply at the bottom of this page but if i tab to them it works fine?
 
Old 08-19-2004, 01:23 PM   #5
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vladilinsky; for a quick fix replace cpu fan + case fan extra if possible. may help any way. the cooler the better machine operates.
 
Old 08-19-2004, 01:34 PM   #6
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Your temps are OK, so I guess it's not heat related

Going along with 5miller's post (even tho' it's a different chipset), what's the result of
Code:
cat /proc/interrupts
 
Old 08-19-2004, 07:49 PM   #7
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cat /proc/interrupts

CPU0
0: 24240717 IO-APIC-edge timer
1: 3151 IO-APIC-edge i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
8: 1 IO-APIC-edge rtc
9: 0 IO-APIC-level acpi
12: 183038 IO-APIC-edge i8042
14: 28593 IO-APIC-edge ide0
15: 46 IO-APIC-edge ide1
16: 2 IO-APIC-level ohci1394, uhci_hcd
17: 313358 IO-APIC-level uhci_hcd, hsfpcibasic2
18: 1246 IO-APIC-level ehci_hcd, eth0
19: 16721 IO-APIC-level CS46XX
21: 0 IO-APIC-level uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd
NMI: 0
LOC: 24240746
ERR: 0
MIS: 0
 
Old 08-20-2004, 08:39 AM   #8
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Well, I'm no expert on this, but I don't see any real error. Just wonder why your uhci module is associated with 3 different interrupts. Maybe somebody more knowledgeable will give an explanation
 
Old 08-20-2004, 12:26 PM   #9
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did some research; original poster ? 1ST was cpu overclocked? 2nd may have to do with conflicting programs, 3rd may also conflict with drivers. check those carefully! THIS WAS A QUICK RESEARCH! error prone.
 
Old 08-20-2004, 01:17 PM   #10
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nope cpu is not over clocked

how do i know if i have conflicting programs / drivers?

it did do this in windows as well, when i still used that os

my computer spent all last night and this morning running test programs
memtest 86 - all last night no errors
cpuburn - for many hours no errors
ctcs test - 8 minutes 53 seconds complete system lock up no error generated
mprime - 11 minutes - compleate system lock up a new record for how long my system went

i am currently downloading hard drive tests to try that.
 
Old 08-20-2004, 02:02 PM   #11
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vladinisky; do not think testing is solving problem. take a close & observent
view of post,s #(ur,s)7 & #8. on ur post #7 list 1 through 21 all point to
I/O -APCI levels. that is why i indicated about O-C, that was a null. but what about the rest. all that is indicating something to do with cpu? that is over my head! sorry far as i can be of help. more research to do.
 
Old 08-20-2004, 02:34 PM   #12
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It should be easy to rule out APIC issues, especially since you indicate mprime offers a relatively quick reproduction of the problem.

From the link in my nforce thread, which works fine for me BTW, boot up using at least one of the following options: noapic, nolapic, acpi=no (I'm using all three, as I've not had time to test individually yet)

Try running mprime. If you don't lock up, I'd add which ever option helped until a kernel patch fixes it...

It may also help show that the kernel bug affects other chipsets as well?

-Scott
 
Old 08-20-2004, 08:57 PM   #13
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i added the line
"append="noacip nolacip no=acip no=apic"
to lilo above the kernel images and i belive that the intended result of turning off acip was achived as
cat /proc/interrupts has changed to

bash-2.05b# cat /proc/interrupts
CPU0
0: 404644 XT-PIC timer
1: 705 XT-PIC i8042
2: 0 XT-PIC cascade
8: 1 XT-PIC rtc
9: 0 XT-PIC acpi
10: 39568 XT-PIC ohci1394, ehci_hcd, uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd, uhci_hcd, eth0, CS46XX, hsfpcibasic2
12: 16042 XT-PIC i8042
14: 7519 XT-PIC ide0
15: 16 XT-PIC ide1
NMI: 0
LOC: 404571
ERR: 381
MIS: 0

But unfortinutly it still crashed compleatly when i run mprime
finally are you sure that this link works?
http://atlas.et.tudelft.nl/verwei90/nforce2/index.html
i get a connection refused?

I do really appreciate all the help i have been getting i was getting very frustrated on my own
 
Old 08-21-2004, 12:18 AM   #14
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http://atlas.et.tudelft.nl/verwei90/nforce2/index.html

Just for the record, I get connection refused too
 
Old 08-21-2004, 09:28 AM   #15
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vladilinsky & mdg; post more research, found clue to mishap line indicate
loc 404571 is the error ? is where is it? line #10 unable to decipher although believe it indicates cd( 5x)(hcd),etho0,cs46xx,hsfpcibasic2 is some reference to cpu attempting to communicate via I/O addressing? not sure however those are the indicators. possibility to check on them? may help.
 
  


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