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Old 04-02-2004, 12:50 PM   #16
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I have enabled soundserver at start-up and it plays many system event sound but it does not play any song weather it is a music file or Music from CD-ROM.
The XMMS doesn't play any Music file and CD Player also doesn't play any sound.
Can any one help me please?
 
Old 04-02-2004, 01:57 PM   #17
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OK, if you can hear system sounds, then the sound card is working. That's a good start.

If XMMS or the CD Player applet are not crashing, but instead playing but you can't hear anything, it is possible that:

1) your sound mixer (volume control) is muted. This is the default setting (for whatever reason), and is the cause of 95% of "I don't have sound!" problems. Try opening up a terminal and typing "aumix" without the quotes. Raise all the volume levels. Then raise the volume using the applet that should be on your panel (looks like a little speaker). Then try the CD Player and XMMS again. The CD Player, at least, should produce sound at this point, but XMMS may still be silent, because

2) XMMS may have its volume muted. Open XMMS and drag the volume slider (it's the horizontal slider the most to the left under the scrolling title of the song playing) to the right to raise the volume.

3) XMMS may be using the wrong output plugin. Right-click on the XMMS window and go to Options=>Preferences. Since you now have your sound server running, change the output plugin to eSound (I'm assuming you're using GNOME, as that's the RH default desktop), and give it another shot.
 
Old 04-03-2004, 03:43 AM   #18
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Thank You motub

I have tried your advices but there is still no sound I worked hard on both i-e XMMS and CD Player. In GNOME The system events sound comes but in KDE enviorment no sound.
I have unmuted the speakers and raised the all volumes but the sound still not comes. Even from both i-e XMMS and CD Player. The XMMS doesn't seem to play any sound while CD Player seem to play the Audio Tracks.
When I tried to play an mp3 file in KDE enviorment it displays the following message.

The application Konqueror(konqueror) crashed and caused the signal 11
(SISSEGV)

WHAT SHOULD I DO NOW?
 
Old 04-03-2004, 04:23 AM   #19
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In the KDE environment, there is a different sound server.. it's called aRTS. You would have to enable that to start up in the KDE Control Center=>Sound and Multimedia.

Your problem may well be having two sound cards. Maybe you should re-enable the onboard sound in the BIOS temporarily and see if that improves the situation. You might also remove the PCI card temporarily. You might thirdly check for a BIOS update for your motherboard, since it seems odd to me that you have the onboard sound off in the BIOs, but it 's still being detected and working. It should not, which suggests that your BIOS is not actually turning the card off the way it is supposed to.

Is there possibly a jumper on the motherboard which must also be set in order to turn off the onboard sound?
 
Old 04-03-2004, 05:42 AM   #20
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thank you for telling about KDE sound.

I am now using both soundcards in Linux. But the sound comes only from onboard souncard. I although Disabled the O/B Soundcard from Bios and it disabled it correctly becouse Windows did not detect it and KUDZU (in Linux) also removed its confeguration but at that time PCI one was detected but it did not give any sound although in the "Test Play Sound" utility in the Soundcard detection tool. I have also updated my bios from PCCHIPS.
 
Old 04-03-2004, 07:03 AM   #21
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OK, so this is the situation, tell me if I have it right:

When you disable the onboard C-Media 9738, it is properly disabled in both Windows and Linux.

If the onboard sound is disabled, the PCI ESS Maestro-3 is detected, but does not play sound.

When enabled, the onboard sound card plays sytem sounds, but no sound applications play anything.

You would prefer to use the PCI sound card.

OK if that's right, there could be several problems, but let's take them one at a time.


Is "PNP OS" on in your BIOS? If so, turn it off. This might solve the problem if it's an IRQ conflict, which it rather looks like. After turning this setting off, reboot and see if the PCI card is properly detected then. If still not, disable the onboard sound again and see if that helps.

If this still doesn't help, it may be that the OSS drivers for this sound card are broken. This was the case for a long time with my VIA8233 onboard sound, so it can happen.

In that case, you should consider following the instructions at www.alsa-project.org to install the drivers for the Maestro-3 card, or read this thread about how to get your onboard sound working properly. The thread (and a Google search for the specifications of your motherboard) indicates that this alsa-project page has the right instructions to install the drivers for your onboard sound.

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Old 04-03-2004, 09:04 AM   #22
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Thank you very much
You are a great man.
I will try your steps later. But If the O/B soundcard started to play Music file I will also satisfy in that case. In short I would not like to Use My PCI Card as default. My BIOS doesn't have any option like "PNP OS" but it has an option i-e "Boot to OS 2" and I have enabled it. I will try to turn it off. Does it relate with this matter?
If it doesn't concern now what should I do?
 
Old 04-04-2004, 10:58 AM   #23
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Today I uninstalled my PCI soundcard and boot the linux. The KUDZU rmoved its configuration but the problem presist. The O/B soundcard still doesn't play any music file and now i am downloading the drivers from alasa. Then I will try the instructions.
I think now it is not any IRQ conflict.
Thank u very much motub.
 
Old 04-05-2004, 06:06 AM   #24
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motub,
I have downloaded all the things which is needed for installing the driver e.g lib file, utlis file.
But in the installation instruction there was an instruction that is, to turn on the "soundcore".
Can u tell me how can I turn on "soundcore"
 
Old 04-05-2004, 06:26 AM   #25
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Quote:
Thank you very much
You are a great man.
You are very welcome, I hope that the ALSA drivers work for you (I'm waiting to hear).

I should mention, though, I am not a man (meaning, I am a woman). Never assume things-- you never know

Wait a minute!!!!!

This is Red Hat????? Oh my God, I'm a complete idiot, and I apologize (many times) in advance. I completely forgot about this. So much for being "great", as either a man or a woman .

The problem may very well be that Red Hat does not include codecs for MP3s or DVDs, because the legal status of these codecs is questionable. Therefore, if you are using XMMS, it will not play MP3s because the plugin that would allow it to do so have been replaced by a dummy plugin (XMMS will not crash, but it will not play the files, either).

There's probably nothing wrong with your soundcards. RedHat is by default incapable of playing certain types of media files with XMMS.

You should go to GuruLabs and get the mp3 plugin for XMMS. Scroll down the page linked above and you should see it.

Really sorry I forgot about that quirk of RedHat. It's caught enough people off-guard that it should have been the first thing I thought of (but I try not to think of Red Hat so much, especially since I'm in the middle of installing Gentoo, and that really takes up all one's spare brainpower ).

Hope this helps, and again, sorry to take you all around the world if that was the problem.

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Old 04-05-2004, 12:41 PM   #26
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hi motub
Thank u very very much. Again u have solved my problem. I have downloaded the plugin from GRULABS and it worked. U r such a great person. But the CD player still doesn't work. The Alsa soun driver is being intalling step by step. But the sound is scratchy, what should i do? will Alsa solve it?
And will Alsa help to switch through one soundcard to another?
THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
 
Old 04-06-2004, 01:43 AM   #27
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I am in the middle of installing ALSA driver for my O/B card and an error has occured.
Following the instruction, I installed alsa driver, alsa lib and alsa utlis. But after that.

quote:
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Now insert the modules into the kernel.

modprobe snd-intel8x0;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss
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I followed this instruction but it replied me as follow:

quote:
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[root@localhost root]# modprobe snd-intel18*0
modprobe: Can't locate module snd-intel18*0
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I also tried the SiS7012 instead of intel18*0 but the same message returned.
What should I do? Please............
 
Old 04-06-2004, 01:11 PM   #28
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motub u did not reply me?

I am now busy in my semister tests for 8 days. I will back on 14th April.
I have also stopped working over Alsa sound Driver.
Thankyou very much.
 
Old 04-14-2004, 11:36 PM   #29
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hi motub?
hope you will fine.
I am now free from my tests.
And I have installed my drivers for Soundcard. and PCI sound card started to working. Thank you very much.
But problem presist. The CD player seems to playing tracks but doesnot give any sound.
 
Old 04-15-2004, 02:55 AM   #30
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Glad your tests are done; I hope you did well on them.

Now that you've installed ALSA, you have another set of mixers , which are also muted by default .

So once again, go through the drill:
[list=1][*] type 'alsamixer' (without the quotes) in a teminal and raise the volumes, especially for the "CD" channel. Also make sure that the channels are not muted (with this mixer, you can raise the volume on muted channels, but naturally that doesn't help). In the terminal app, there will be M-M above the channel volume; press M to unmute it, then raise the volume. If you don't have alsamixer, you need to install the "alsa-utils" package.[*] Check aRTs (the KDE sound server) and make sure it's using the ALSA output plugin instead of "autodetect" in the KDE Control Center. You might also try playing some system sounds (you can just test them if you don't want your PC beeping and booping at you all the time) to see if you can hear them.[*] Make sure that the KMix volumes are raised and not muted.[*] In XMMS, make sure that the program is using the ALSA output plugin (or the arts plugin if you are using aRTs) and that the volume is not 0.[*] Sorry, but I don't know how to check the volume or output of the KDE CD player (or in fact the GNOME one).[/list=1]

If possible, it would also be good if you could open a different type of sound-producing program than a CD player or music player app, such as a game. Since I don't use KDE, I don't offhand know which of their games make sound (Patience might; it's a card game that is part of the standard KDE install, and perhaps there is sound when dealing the cards), and the other ones I can think of (Pysol, another card game; Frozen Bubble, a beautiful and fun puzzle game; Toppler, a remake of an old console game called Nebulous on the Amiga and Castelian on the NES; and possibly TuxRacer, a game which is often included in standard installs, but requires your 3D acceleration to be working) may not be installed on your system. In any case, if the above checks do not help, it would be good to know if the problem is due to 1) specifically what you're trying to do (sound plays in other apps but not when you're playing CDs); or 2) the apps you're using to do it (you get sound from CDs when using mPlayer, but not when using XMMS); or 3) is a general sound problem (you get no sound, no matter what you're doing, even when you know there should be sound). If the last, the next check would be to log into another DE or WM if available and see if the problem is limited to KDE or is global. But hopefully it's just that one or the other volumes is muted when it shouldn't be.

Anyway, good luck and let us know the results of the further tests and adjustments.
 
  


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