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Old 01-18-2010, 12:18 AM   #1
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Help choosing a compatible Motherboard for Linux


Does anyone know if the AMD SB710 Southbridge chip is supported by Linux? I believe this is the chip that communicates with Sata drives on the ASUS motherboards I've been looking at

I looked at my kernel-2.6.33.2 .config file & don't see an entry like CONFIG_SATA_AMD, so does that mean it in not supported?

Does a chip have to have a specific module entry in the Kernel .config file before Linux can see & use the drives it controls or is it sufficient for the chip to just be AHCI compliant?

If someone can help I would appreciate your advice. I don't want to limit my choices for a new motherboard to the brand I have now just because I don't know enough about choosing another product.

Thank you.
 
Old 01-18-2010, 03:56 AM   #2
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If the chip is AHCI compliant I can guarantee that it will work using the ahci driver if you put the controller in AHCI mode. As for other drivers, I'm not sure, I don't have much experience with AMD, I usually use Intel.
 
Old 01-18-2010, 11:13 AM   #3
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All computers over here, Intel, AMD work perfectly under Linux, even with older kernels. Since you mention one of the latest kernels it should be working, but then you'll need to find out if the chipset name also has an other alias.

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There are reports that this motherboard does work with distro's like Open SuSE, Ubuntu

Last edited by Laurens73; 01-18-2010 at 11:22 AM. Reason: Found better information
 
Old 01-18-2010, 12:39 PM   #4
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If your MoBo offers "Integrated Graphics" then make sure it's an NVIDIA chipset. Otherwise, just buy an NVIDIA card.

No, I don't work for them, but their support for linux has been excellent over all these years. So we should continue to support them.
 
Old 01-18-2010, 01:30 PM   #5
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Hi,

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Originally Posted by Laurens73 View Post
All computers over here, Intel, AMD work perfectly under Linux, even with older kernels. Since you mention one of the latest kernels it should be working, but then you'll need to find out if the chipset name also has an other alias.

*edit:

There are reports that this motherboard does work with distro's like Open SuSE, Ubuntu
Rather broad statement! I'm sure there are some chipsets that don't work. Especially with older kernels, legacy support is not always there regardless of the processor for a particular motherboard chipset.

To the OP, look at the 'HCL' and 'Tom's Hardware'.

 
Old 01-18-2010, 11:14 PM   #6
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Thanks to everyone for your quick replies.

I am now pretty sure that the AMD SB710 southbridge chip will work if I use the Linux ahci.ko module or select the
CONFIG_SATA_AHCI=<Y> option when building a Kernel. However, I would still like to know why the Kernel has other
sata modules options like CONFIG_SATA_NV & CONFIG_SATA_VIA.
My guess would be that they are not 100% AHCI compliant
or have some extra features that require Linux to use the special sata module.

By_the _way, I do appreciate venders & manufacturers that support Linux. I am using the Nvidia GEForce 6100 & the
Nvidia NForce 405 chips on my MSI K9N6SGM-V motherboard now. You may also be happy to hear that my choices for a
new motherboard are currently the ASUS M4N68TN & the MSI GT615M-M both of which use Nvidia chips. I trust both of
those motherboard manufactures because I am currently using their boards. But beleive it or not, the deciding factor
for me was the existence of a COM port on both of those boards.

The one advantage to using the AMD SB710 chip is that those boards advertise a FSB 2600MHz compared to a FSB 1000MHz
the Nvidia Geforce & nForce boards advertise. The AMD SB710 chip sounds a lot faster but after checking out the
possibility of using a SB710 chip board, I discovered they don't have a COM port & I have serial modems for dialup
internet. ...I'm loyal to my US Robotic modem manufacture too

Thank you all again.
 
Old 01-18-2010, 11:17 PM   #7
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Thanks to everyone for your quick replies.

I am now pretty sure that the AMD SB710 southbridge chip will work if I use the Linux ahci.ko module or select the
CONFIG_SATA_AHCI=<Y> option when building a Kernel. However, I would still like to know why the Kernel has other
sata modules options like CONFIG_SATA_NV & CONFIG_SATA_VIA.
My guess would be that they are not 100% AHCI compliant
or have some extra features that require Linux to use the special sata module.

By_the _way, I do appreciate venders & manufacturers that support Linux. I am using the Nvidia GEForce 6100 & the
Nvidia NForce 405 chips on my MSI K9N6SGM-V motherboard now. You may also be happy to hear that my choices for a
new motherboard are currently the ASUS M4N68TN & the MSI GT615M-M both of which use Nvidia chips. I trust both of
those motherboard manufactures because I am currently using their boards. But beleive it or not, the deciding factor
for me was the existence of a COM port on both of those boards.

The one advantage to using the AMD SB710 chip is that those boards advertise a FSB 2600MHz compared to a FSB 1000MHz
the Nvidia Geforce & nForce boards advertise. The AMD SB710 chip sounds a lot faster but after checking out the
possibility of using a SB710 chip board, I discovered they don't have a COM port & I have serial modems for dialup
internet. ...I'm loyal to my US Robotic modem manufacture too

Thank you all again.
 
Old 01-19-2010, 03:35 AM   #8
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Quote:
I am now pretty sure that the AMD SB710 southbridge chip will work if I use the Linux ahci.ko module
It does so on my M4A785TD-V mainboard.

Quote:
I would still like to know why the Kernel has other
sata modules options like CONFIG_SATA_NV & CONFIG_SATA_VIA.
Older versions of these chips were not AHCI compatible, and in many cases it's still possible to disable AHCI in the BIOS.

The SB710's IDE port (or the SATA ports in IDE mode) would work with CONFIG_PATA_ATIIXP.

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The AMD SB710 chip sounds a lot faster
Different architectures cannot simply be compared by looking at one number. However, the SB710 certainly isn't slower than other southbridges.

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but after checking out the possibility of using a SB710 chip board, I discovered they don't have a COM port
Many boards have an internal COM header that can be used with an adapter (that you would have to buy separately).
 
Old 01-19-2010, 04:46 AM   #9
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ssenuta View Post
Thanks to everyone for your quick replies.

I am now pretty sure that the AMD SB710 southbridge chip will work if I use the Linux ahci.ko module or select the
CONFIG_SATA_AHCI=<Y> option when building a Kernel. However, I would still like to know why the Kernel has other
sata modules options like CONFIG_SATA_NV & CONFIG_SATA_VIA.
My guess would be that they are not 100% AHCI compliant
or have some extra features that require Linux to use the special sata module.
Well, if you put the controller in SATA or PATA mode, then those modules that you mentioned would be used instead of ahci. Now, in many cases it will work and you won't notice any difference, but sometimes the sata/pata drivers are crap and have many issues (many of which are not hardware-independent), in which case it would be better to put the controller in AHCI mode and use the ahci driver (which I've found to be much less buggy than the sata/pata drivers). So in many cases you have the choice to use AHCI or SATA/PATA depending on what options you put in the BIOS, and whether there exist SATA/PATA drivers for that controller (in many cases they do, but sometimes they don't). I always recommend AHCI, because it's more likely to work flawlessly, but if you dual boot Window$ or have ancient hardware, it's another issue.

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Old 01-20-2010, 10:20 AM   #10
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I hope you knowledgable guys are still following this post because
I have another question concerning the Sata "ahci" driver. However,
I'm starting a New (Hardware) Thread for it titled:

"Help getting kernel to use the AHCI SATA driver".

Thanks again for your help here. I learned a lot & hope you will be
interested enough to take a peek at my new post.
 
Old 05-30-2010, 09:19 AM   #11
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hi everyone,
My hard drive w/r speed is hell slow!! i don't know why. here are some helpful info about my system. if anybody could direct me in the write direction.
motherboard: gigabyte ga-ma785gt-ud3h (785g + sb710)
processor: athlon II xII 240
OS: fedora 13
SATA mode: AHCI

please consider..
thanks..
 
Old 05-30-2010, 10:14 AM   #12
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You have a new question, so please start a new thread, with an appropriate title, eg "My HDD R/W is slow".
Please post the actual, measured speeds.
And "Athlon II xII 240" means what, exactly? 240MB, 240MHz ?
Welcome to LQ.
 
Old 06-02-2010, 02:30 PM   #13
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thank you tredegar ..
i posted a new thread
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...72#post3990372
if anybody could give me some directions to solve this problem.
thanks
 
  


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