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Old 06-13-2014, 05:56 PM   #1
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Good HDD enclosure for Linux?


I've been looking for a HDD enclosure (preferably eSATA, USB 3.0 is acceptable) for a single 1TB 3.5" SATA drive for a while and apparently this isn't as simple as it should be. Many enclosures like the Rosewill RX-358 V2 BLK have a power saving feature that turns the HDD off! Similarly, some other enclosures go to sleep when used by operating systems that they weren't designed for. All I'm looking for is a single bay enclosure for weekly rsync backups, I don't need RAID or anything fancy like that.

Have any of you had good experiences with HDD enclosures working on Linux?
 
Old 06-13-2014, 06:20 PM   #2
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The usb3 WD "My book" works just fine

i reformatted it from ntfs to 4 1TB partitions
using GPT and ext4
and remaned the device name from " My Book" to "MyBook"
-- blank spaces in names !!! i even HATE that on windows

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Old 06-13-2014, 06:46 PM   #3
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Maybe I should rephrase the question. I am looking for a hard drive enclosure to enclose an existing internal SATA 3.5" HDD for external use. This video explains what I am talking about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1S3XfRn8fk
 
Old 06-13-2014, 08:57 PM   #4
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Many enclosures like the Rosewill RX-358 V2 BLK have a power saving feature that turns the HDD off!
Rosewill has a firmware update dated 4/29/2014 that disables the power saving feature. Of course the firmware update tool requires MS Windows.
 
Old 06-13-2014, 11:23 PM   #5
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Rosewill has a firmware update dated 4/29/2014 that disables the power saving feature.
Great!

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Of course the firmware update tool requires MS Windows.
Ehh, good enough for me. I still have Windows 7 on my HDD, haven't booted to it in over three months.

Now the question is, does the Rosewill RX-358 V2 work well with Linux? Anyone have any experience with it?

Edit: I don't think I'll be getting that, the fact that 10 people found this helpful scares me even though I'll be using eSATA. Shame because after some research, I found it works fine on Linux.
 
Old 06-14-2014, 03:21 AM   #6
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That seems like a lot of money and a lot of complication for what should be a simple job. My google-fu escapes me but I would have thought all you need is an ESATA to SATA cable and a cheap power supply. I did see a product on Amazon which connected to and ESATA port and a USB port (for power) which plugs into a 2.5" drive but I'm not sure whether it would power a 3.5" drive.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-AK-CBS...o+sata+adapter
That's the kind of thing and kind of price range I would be looking at as you won't have any stupid add-on uselessness going on so you could just set spin-down using hdparm instead of having some junk hardware trying to do it for you.
 
Old 06-14-2014, 10:02 AM   #7
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Hi,

I like the Antec MX-1 USB enclosures for durability and cost. Nice enclosures available in the protocol desired. I have used these for quite some time without issue(s).

Hope this helps.
 
Old 06-14-2014, 10:44 AM   #8
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Yeah, I use Rocketfish external enclosures but was not going to recommend it as they only support 750gig sata drives. Also not usb 3.0.

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Old 06-14-2014, 10:49 AM   #9
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Also not usb 3.0.
Oops. I guess I am wrong about that.
 
Old 06-15-2014, 04:32 PM   #10
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That seems like a lot of money and a lot of complication for what should be a simple job. My google-fu escapes me but I would have thought all you need is an ESATA to SATA cable and a cheap power supply. I did see a product on Amazon which connected to and ESATA port and a USB port (for power) which plugs into a 2.5" drive but I'm not sure whether it would power a 3.5" drive.
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Akasa-AK-CBS...o+sata+adapter
That's the kind of thing and kind of price range I would be looking at as you won't have any stupid add-on uselessness going on so you could just set spin-down using hdparm instead of having some junk hardware trying to do it for you.
Ya, a simple hardware only solution would be nice, no software (i.e. firmware) to impose size limitations or mess anything up. Since the only reason I wanted eSATA & USB 3.0 was so I could easily remove the drive after a backup without opening the PC case, I looked into 5.25" bays for 3.5" HDD and I came across this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEMlykqlV1s

Since that is just SATA to SATA, there shouldn't be any nasty firmware, right?
 
Old 06-15-2014, 05:04 PM   #11
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Ya, a simple hardware only solution would be nice, no software (i.e. firmware) to impose size limitations or mess anything up. Since the only reason I wanted eSATA & USB 3.0 was so I could easily remove the drive after a backup without opening the PC case, I looked into 5.25" bays for 3.5" HDD and I came across this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sEMlykqlV1s

Since that is just SATA to SATA, there shouldn't be any nasty firmware, right?
I would guess not though of course I'm not entirely sure. You could search for product manuals, specifications and the like to confirm though I would have thought.
 
Old 06-15-2014, 05:39 PM   #12
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I'll take a gamble and purchase it, I can always return it. If it works out for me, I'll report back and mark the thread as "solved."

Thanks everybody.
 
Old 06-21-2014, 09:33 PM   #13
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Yesterday I received the "ICY DOCK MB971SP-B DuoSwap" and it works grate, I could access smart data and manipulate the HDDs with hdparm which means that if there's any firmware in it (which I think there is, the case says it supports drives up to 3TB), it's not messing anything up too badly. Gnome-disk-utility recognizes the drive as an internal SATA drive which is another good sign on firmware (I haven't tried it in a hardware RAID controller though). My only real complaint (I could go on and on about the cheap flimsy plastic used in the drive bay doors) is that the 2.5" and 3.5" drives share the same power cable, which I've heard can cause problems when using both bays simultaneously. Just using one drive at a time is fine for me though. The drives can get a little hot, my Seagate Barracuda 7200 RPM 320 GB drive was running at 45(!) degrees when I was test writing a few GB of zeros to it, while my Western Digital VelociRaptor WD1000DHTZ 10K RPM 1TB drive ran at 39 degrees. In normal use both drives ran about 5 degrees cooler and in idle use about 7 to 10 degrees cooler. I could not tell any read/write speed decrease when using this caddy though I didn't perform any formal benchmarks.

I'm having some issues software wise (since the HDD is connect to an internal SATA port, my OS software treats it as an internal device and thus gives me no option to safely eject it) but since this is the hardware form, I'll post that else ware:
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...es-4175508755/

Thanks to all who helped and I hope the above information can help others who need to use SATA drives externally.

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