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Old 12-13-2010, 01:29 PM   #1
PTrenholme
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Question From 2 days ago, it takes 10 min.s to boot my HP dv9700 laptop. Prior two yr.s, 2 min


Once I boot, everything seems to work well. Note that this does not seem to be OS dependent. Once the GRUB menu is displayed, all seems fine, and I can boot any of the OS on the system with no problem. (I have Ubuntu 9, Fedora 14, and Vista on sda and Ubuntu 10 on sdb).

sda is a 160Gb Fujitsu, and sdb a 500 Gb Samsung.

What I've checked:
Memchk (4Gb) - Passed
Code:
$ sudo smartctl -H /dev/sda
smartctl 5.40 2010-10-16 r3189 [x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED

$ sudo smartctl -H /dev/sdb
smartctl 5.40 2010-10-16 r3189 [x86_64-redhat-linux-gnu] (local build)
Copyright (C) 2002-10 by Bruce Allen, http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net

=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART overall-health self-assessment test result: PASSED
I seems to me that it system is waiting for some interrupt, and that it takes about five minutes for the wait to time out. The only interrupts of which I'm aware that take that long are disk access ones, but, as you can see, above, SMART seems to think there's no problem with the drives. (And, once booted, they seem to work well.)

Does anyone have any suggestions?

In case it might help, here's the lshw output for the laptop:
Code:
$ sudo lshw
dv9700us                  
    description: Notebook
    product: HP Pavilion dv9700 Notebook PC (KN869UA#ABA)
    vendor: Hewlett-Packard
    version: Rev 1
    serial: CNF81415JW
    width: 64 bits
    capabilities: smbios-2.4 dmi-2.4 vsyscall64 vsyscall32
    configuration: boot=oem-specific chassis=notebook family=103C_5335KV sku=KN869UA#ABA uuid=434E4638-3134-3135-4A57-001E684673A0
  *-core
       description: Motherboard
       product: 30D1
       vendor: Quanta
       physical id: 0
       version: 85.26
       serial: None1
     *-firmware
          description: BIOS
          vendor: Hewlett-Packard
          physical id: 0
          version: F.30
          date: 04/24/2008
          size: 111KiB
          capacity: 960KiB
          capabilities: isa pci pnp upgrade shadowing escd cdboot bootselect int5printscreen int9keyboard int14serial int17printer acpi usb agp smartbattery
     *-cpu
          description: CPU
          product: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile Technology TL-60
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 3
          bus info: cpu@0
          version: AMD Turion(tm) 64 X2 Mobile TL60
          slot: Socket S1
          size: 2GHz
          capacity: 2GHz
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 200MHz
          capabilities: fpu fpu_exception wp vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt rdtscp x86-64 3dnowext 3dnow rep_good extd_apicid pni cx16 lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy 3dnowprefetch lbrv cpufreq
        *-cache:0
             description: L1 cache
             physical id: 5
             slot: L1 Cache
             size: 64KiB
             capacity: 64KiB
             capabilities: asynchronous internal write-back
        *-cache:1
             description: L2 cache
             physical id: 6
             slot: L2 Cache
             size: 1MiB
             capacity: 1MiB
             capabilities: synchronous internal write-through unified
     *-memory:0
          description: System Memory
          physical id: b
          slot: System board or motherboard
          size: 4GiB
        *-bank:0
             description: DIMM DDR2 Synchronous 667 MHz (1.5 ns)
             physical id: 0
             slot: DIMM 1
             size: 2GiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 667MHz (1.5ns)
        *-bank:1
             description: DIMM DDR2 667 MHz (1.5 ns)
             physical id: 1
             slot: DIMM 2
             size: 2GiB
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 667MHz (1.5ns)
     *-memory:1 UNCLAIMED
          description: RAM memory
          product: MCP67 Memory Controller
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 4
          bus info: pci@0000:00:00.0
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz (15.2ns)
          capabilities: ht bus_master cap_list
          configuration: latency=0
     *-isa
          description: ISA bridge
          product: MCP67 ISA Bridge
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 1
          bus info: pci@0000:00:01.0
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: isa bus_master
          configuration: latency=0
     *-serial
          description: SMBus
          product: MCP67 SMBus
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 1.1
          bus info: pci@0000:00:01.1
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: pm cap_list
          configuration: driver=nForce2_smbus latency=0
          resources: irq:10 ioport:3080(size=64) ioport:3040(size=64) ioport:3000(size=64)
     *-memory:2 UNCLAIMED
          description: RAM memory
          product: MCP67 Memory Controller
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 1.2
          bus info: pci@0000:00:01.2
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz (15.2ns)
          configuration: latency=0
     *-processor UNCLAIMED
          description: Co-processor
          product: MCP67 Co-processor
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 1.3
          bus info: pci@0000:00:01.3
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: bus_master
          configuration: latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3
          resources: memory:f6200000-f627ffff
     *-usb:0
          description: USB Controller
          product: MCP67 OHCI USB 1.1 Controller
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 2
          bus info: pci@0000:00:02.0
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: pm ohci bus_master cap_list
          configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3
          resources: irq:18 memory:f6486000-f6486fff
        *-usbhost
             product: OHCI Host Controller
             vendor: Linux 2.6.35.9-64.fc14.x86_64 ohci_hcd
             physical id: 1
             bus info: usb@3
             logical name: usb3
             version: 2.06
             capabilities: usb-1.10
             configuration: driver=hub slots=7 speed=12Mbit/s
           *-usb
                description: Keyboard
                product: Gyration RF Technology Receiver
                vendor: Gyration
                physical id: 1
                bus info: usb@3:1
                version: 1.50
                capabilities: usb-1.10
                configuration: driver=usbhid maxpower=98mA speed=2Mbit/s
     *-usb:1
          description: USB Controller
          product: MCP67 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 2.1
          bus info: pci@0000:00:02.1
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: debug pm ehci bus_master cap_list
          configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3
          resources: irq:22 memory:f6489000-f64890ff
        *-usbhost
             product: EHCI Host Controller
             vendor: Linux 2.6.35.9-64.fc14.x86_64 ehci_hcd
             physical id: 1
             bus info: usb@1
             logical name: usb1
             version: 2.06
             capabilities: usb-2.00
             configuration: driver=hub slots=7 speed=480Mbit/s
     *-usb:2
          description: USB Controller
          product: MCP67 OHCI USB 1.1 Controller
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 5
          bus info: pci@0000:00:04.0
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: pm ohci bus_master cap_list
          configuration: driver=ohci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3
          resources: irq:18 memory:f6487000-f6487fff
        *-usbhost
             product: OHCI Host Controller
             vendor: Linux 2.6.35.9-64.fc14.x86_64 ohci_hcd
             physical id: 1
             bus info: usb@4
             logical name: usb4
             version: 2.06
             capabilities: usb-1.10
             configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=12Mbit/s
     *-usb:3
          description: USB Controller
          product: MCP67 EHCI USB 2.0 Controller
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 4.1
          bus info: pci@0000:00:04.1
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: debug pm ehci bus_master cap_list
          configuration: driver=ehci_hcd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3
          resources: irq:22 memory:f6489400-f64894ff
        *-usbhost
             product: EHCI Host Controller
             vendor: Linux 2.6.35.9-64.fc14.x86_64 ehci_hcd
             physical id: 1
             bus info: usb@2
             logical name: usb2
             version: 2.06
             capabilities: usb-2.00
             configuration: driver=hub slots=2 speed=480Mbit/s
           *-usb
                description: Video
                product: HP Webcam
                vendor: Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd.
                physical id: 2
                bus info: usb@2:2
                version: 6.06
                serial: SN0001
                capabilities: usb-2.00
                configuration: driver=uvcvideo maxpower=500mA speed=480Mbit/s
     *-ide:0
          description: IDE interface
          product: MCP67 IDE Controller
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 6
          bus info: pci@0000:00:06.0
          logical name: scsi4
          version: a1
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: ide pm bus_master cap_list emulated
          configuration: driver=pata_amd latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3
          resources: irq:0 ioport:1f0(size=8) ioport:3f6 ioport:170(size=8) ioport:376 ioport:30c0(size=16)
        *-cdrom
             description: DVD-RAM writer
             product: DVDRW   DVR-K17B
             vendor: PIONEER
             physical id: 0.0.0
             bus info: scsi@4:0.0.0
             logical name: /dev/cdrom
             logical name: /dev/cdrw
             logical name: /dev/dvd
             logical name: /dev/dvdrw
             logical name: /dev/scd0
             logical name: /dev/sr0
             version: 1.02
             capabilities: removable audio cd-r cd-rw dvd dvd-r dvd-ram
             configuration: ansiversion=5 status=nodisc
     *-multimedia
          description: Audio device
          product: MCP67 High Definition Audio
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 7
          bus info: pci@0000:00:07.0
          version: a1
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: pm msi ht bus_master cap_list
          configuration: driver=HDA Intel latency=0 maxlatency=5 mingnt=2
          resources: irq:21 memory:f6480000-f6483fff
     *-pci:0
          description: PCI bridge
          product: MCP67 PCI Bridge
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 8
          bus info: pci@0000:00:08.0
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: pci ht subtractive_decode bus_master cap_list
          resources: memory:f6100000-f61fffff
        *-firewire
             description: FireWire (IEEE 1394)
             product: R5C832 IEEE 1394 Controller
             vendor: Ricoh Co Ltd
             physical id: 5
             bus info: pci@0000:02:05.0
             version: 05
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm ohci bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=firewire_ohci latency=64 maxlatency=4 mingnt=2
             resources: irq:5 memory:f6100000-f61007ff
        *-generic:0
             description: SD Host controller
             product: R5C822 SD/SDIO/MMC/MS/MSPro Host Adapter
             vendor: Ricoh Co Ltd
             physical id: 5.1
             bus info: pci@0000:02:05.1
             version: 22
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=sdhci-pci latency=64
             resources: irq:7 memory:f6100800-f61008ff
        *-generic:1 UNCLAIMED
             description: System peripheral
             product: R5C592 Memory Stick Bus Host Adapter
             vendor: Ricoh Co Ltd
             physical id: 5.2
             bus info: pci@0000:02:05.2
             version: 12
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
             configuration: latency=64
             resources: memory:f6101000-f61010ff
        *-generic:2
             description: System peripheral
             product: xD-Picture Card Controller
             vendor: Ricoh Co Ltd
             physical id: 5.3
             bus info: pci@0000:02:05.3
             version: 12
             width: 32 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm bus_master cap_list
             configuration: driver=r852 latency=64
             resources: irq:7 memory:f6101400-f61014ff
     *-ide:1
          description: IDE interface
          product: MCP67 AHCI Controller
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 9
          bus info: pci@0000:00:09.0
          logical name: scsi0
          logical name: scsi1
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: ide pm msi ht bus_master cap_list emulated
          configuration: driver=ahci latency=0 maxlatency=1 mingnt=3
          resources: irq:23 ioport:30f0(size=8) ioport:30e4(size=4) ioport:30e8(size=8) ioport:30e0(size=4) ioport:30d0(size=16) memory:f6484000-f6485fff
        *-disk:0
             description: ATA Disk
             product: FUJITSU MHZ2160B
             vendor: Fujitsu
             physical id: 0
             bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0
             logical name: /dev/sda
             version: 8909
             serial: K616T8325RMF
             size: 149GiB (160GB)
             capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
             configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=a602a602
           *-volume:0
                description: Windows NTFS volume
                physical id: 1
                bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,1
                logical name: /dev/sda1
                logical name: /Vista
                version: 3.1
                serial: 9c106e15-1bad-8b47-b70d-de002304fd56
                size: 67GiB
                capacity: 67GiB
                capabilities: primary bootable ntfs initialized
                configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2001-02-26 08:38:39 filesystem=ntfs label=Vista mount.fstype=fuseblk mount.options=rw,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096 state=mounted
           *-volume:1
                description: Extended partition
                physical id: 2
                bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,2
                logical name: /dev/sda2
                size: 69GiB
                capacity: 69GiB
                capabilities: primary extended partitioned partitioned:extended
              *-logicalvolume:0
                   description: Linux filesystem partition
                   physical id: 5
                   logical name: /dev/sda5
                   logical name: /Jaunty
                   capacity: 19GiB
                   configuration: mount.fstype=ext3 mount.options=rw,seclabel,relatime,errors=continue,barrier=0,data=ordered state=mounted
              *-logicalvolume:1
                   description: Linux swap / Solaris partition
                   physical id: 6
                   logical name: /dev/sda6
                   capacity: 196MiB
                   capabilities: nofs
              *-logicalvolume:2
                   description: Linux filesystem partition
                   physical id: 7
                   logical name: /dev/sda7
                   logical name: /boot
                   capacity: 2957MiB
                   configuration: mount.fstype=ext3 mount.options=rw,seclabel,relatime,errors=continue,user_xattr,acl,barrier=0,data=ordered state=mounted
              *-logicalvolume:3
                   description: Linux filesystem partition
                   physical id: 8
                   logical name: /dev/sda8
                   logical name: /
                   capacity: 47GiB
                   configuration: mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,seclabel,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered state=mounted
           *-volume:2
                description: Windows NTFS volume
                physical id: 3
                bus info: scsi@0:0.0.0,3
                logical name: /dev/sda3
                logical name: /Vista/Recovery
                version: 3.1
                serial: da1b99b8-5f56-5b42-a03b-0099b631902c
                size: 11GiB
                capacity: 11GiB
                capabilities: primary ntfs initialized
                configuration: clustersize=4096 created=2006-06-19 08:10:07 filesystem=ntfs label=HP_RECOVERY mount.fstype=fuseblk mount.options=rw,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,allow_other,blksize=4096 state=mounted
        *-disk:1
             description: ATA Disk
             product: SAMSUNG HM500JI
             physical id: 1
             bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0
             logical name: /dev/sdb
             version: 2AC1
             serial: S1WFJ9FSC14380
             size: 465GiB (500GB)
             capabilities: partitioned partitioned:dos
             configuration: ansiversion=5 signature=000e9d81
           *-volume:0
                description: EXT4 volume
                vendor: Linux
                physical id: 1
                bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0,1
                logical name: /dev/sdb1
                logical name: /Samsung
                version: 1.0
                serial: 53eb35a6-dc07-4956-9376-a8ef7d10a9fb
                size: 315GiB
                capacity: 315GiB
                capabilities: primary journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized
                configuration: created=2010-02-26 15:00:21 filesystem=ext4 label=Backup lastmountpoint=/Samsung modified=2010-12-13 09:23:10 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,seclabel,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered mounted=2010-12-13 09:23:10 state=mounted
           *-volume:1
                description: EXT3 volume
                vendor: Linux
                physical id: 2
                bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0,2
                logical name: /dev/sdb2
                version: 1.0
                serial: 5085bc30-beb9-4038-b976-5dfa486d90a3
                size: 203MiB
                capacity: 203MiB
                capabilities: primary bootable journaled extended_attributes ext3 ext2 initialized
                configuration: created=2010-03-03 18:18:13 filesystem=ext3 label=S-boot modified=2010-12-12 19:40:25 mounted=2010-12-12 19:00:52 state=unknown
           *-volume:2
                description: EXT4 volume
                vendor: Linux
                physical id: 3
                bus info: scsi@1:0.0.0,3
                logical name: /dev/sdb3
                logical name: /Ubuntu
                version: 1.0
                serial: ea123517-ebae-495c-afdd-08b3712638ef
                size: 150GiB
                capacity: 150GiB
                capabilities: primary journaled extended_attributes large_files huge_files dir_nlink recover extents ext4 ext2 initialized
                configuration: created=2010-07-30 15:35:02 filesystem=ext4 label=Ubuntu lastmountpoint=/ modified=2010-12-13 09:23:10 mount.fstype=ext4 mount.options=rw,seclabel,relatime,barrier=1,data=ordered mounted=2010-12-13 09:23:10 state=mounted
     *-network
          description: Ethernet interface
          product: MCP67 Ethernet
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: a
          bus info: pci@0000:00:0a.0
          logical name: eth0
          version: a2
          serial: 00:1e:68:46:73:a0
          capacity: 100Mbit/s
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: pm msi ht bus_master cap_list ethernet physical mii 10bt 10bt-fd 100bt 100bt-fd autonegotiation
          configuration: autonegotiation=on broadcast=yes driver=forcedeth driverversion=0.64 latency=0 link=no maxlatency=20 mingnt=1 multicast=yes port=MII
          resources: irq:42 memory:f6488000-f6488fff ioport:30f8(size=8) memory:f6489c00-f6489cff memory:f6489800-f648980f
     *-pci:1
          description: PCI bridge
          product: MCP67 PCI Express Bridge
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: c
          bus info: pci@0000:00:0c.0
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          capabilities: pci pm msi ht pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list
          configuration: driver=pcieport
          resources: irq:40 ioport:4000(size=4096) memory:f2000000-f3ffffff ioport:f0000000(size=33554432)
     *-pci:2
          description: PCI bridge
          product: MCP67 PCI Express Bridge
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: d
          bus info: pci@0000:00:0d.0
          version: a2
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          capabilities: pci pm msi ht pciexpress normal_decode bus_master cap_list
          configuration: driver=pcieport
          resources: irq:41 memory:f6000000-f60fffff
        *-network
             description: Wireless interface
             product: AR5001 Wireless Network Adapter
             vendor: Atheros Communications Inc.
             physical id: 0
             bus info: pci@0000:03:00.0
             logical name: wlan0
             version: 01
             serial: 00:1f:3a:a3:53:5f
             width: 64 bits
             clock: 33MHz
             capabilities: pm msi pciexpress msix bus_master cap_list ethernet physical wireless
             configuration: broadcast=yes driver=ath5k driverversion=2.6.35.9-64.fc14.x86_64 firmware=N/A ip=192.168.0.2 latency=0 link=yes multicast=yes wireless=IEEE 802.11bg
             resources: irq:19 memory:f6000000-f600ffff
     *-display
          description: VGA compatible controller
          product: C67 [GeForce 7150M / nForce 630M]
          vendor: nVidia Corporation
          physical id: 12
          bus info: pci@0000:00:12.0
          version: a2
          width: 64 bits
          clock: 66MHz
          capabilities: pm msi vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom
          configuration: driver=nvidia latency=0
          resources: irq:16 memory:f5000000-f5ffffff memory:d0000000-dfffffff memory:f4000000-f4ffffff memory:f6280000-f629ffff
     *-pci:3
          description: Host bridge
          product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] HyperTransport Technology Configuration
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 100
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.0
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:4
          description: Host bridge
          product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Address Map
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 101
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.1
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:5
          description: Host bridge
          product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] DRAM Controller
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 102
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.2
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
     *-pci:6
          description: Host bridge
          product: K8 [Athlon64/Opteron] Miscellaneous Control
          vendor: Hynix Semiconductor (Hyundai Electronics)
          physical id: 103
          bus info: pci@0000:00:18.3
          version: 00
          width: 32 bits
          clock: 33MHz
          configuration: driver=k8temp
          resources: irq:0
 
Old 12-13-2010, 02:01 PM   #2
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I think you're saying that the BIOS hangs for 10++ minutes before it loads Grub, correct?

SUGGESTION:
1. Get a "live CD", go into the BIOS, and disable EVERYTHING from your "boot order" besides the CD.
See how long it takes.

2. Take out the CD, disable everything from "boot order" besides your hard drive, see how long it takes.

3. Restore your current boot order.

Sounds like maybe it's trying to do a PIXIE boot or something before it gets around to looking at your hard drive?
 
Old 12-13-2010, 02:31 PM   #3
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Interesting idea, but no. I get the same "hang" before the CD is booted. After boot, no problem.

For what it's worth, the BIOS has been updated to F.30 (IIRC), which is the latest update offered by HP, and that was done at least a year ago. (In fact, so long ago that I've forgotten the BIOS access password.)
 
Old 12-13-2010, 03:13 PM   #4
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It seems likely that some hardware is delaying the POST. Could be a NIC or a data cable or even a USB controller. I would do more of what paulsm4 talked about. Get into the BIOS and selectively disable things to see if one of those items was hanging the POST. Also if you have an add on NIC then remove it. Just disable different items to see if the POST->boot speeds up.
 
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Even more mystery: I realized that I'd just assumed that F.30 was the most recent BIOS release, so I checked the HP site, and discovered that F.33 was available. So I downloaded it, moved it to my Vista partition (Since HP ONLY supports BIOS flashing from a Windows OS.) and then rebooted.

And here's the mystery: the reboot went as fast as it had before the problem of the last two days! (That's before the BIOS upgrade was applied.) I then upgraded the BIOS - why not, eh? - and rebooted again.

And, again, no problem. How long the problem will be gone is hard to guess.

My suspicion is that I have a flakey drive that SMART is not detecting, and so I think I'll replace the old 160Gb drive with a newer 500Gb one. (Ebay suggests that a 500Gb laptop drive should go for $45-$75. Now all I need to do is find the money. Maybe next year . . .)

But for now the problem seems to have resolved itself.
 
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If you think the drive is failing, backup data and run a SMART long test 'smartctl -t long /dev/sda'.
 
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I think I may have finally solved this problem:
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Well, I thought that solved it. But see below.
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I seems that the libata version 3.00 is issuing a "reset" to the DVD-RW device attached as PATA 5, and the device is not responding, perhaps because I don't, normally, have anything in it when I boot.

Anyhow, when I added a libata.force=0x30c0:norst to the kernel boot parameters the boot "hang" dropped from 2 min.s to 5 seconds.

Here's the before messages:
Code:
# grep -iw "Dec 28.*ata[5-6]" /var/log/messages
Dec 28 07:50:47 dv9810us kernel: [    7.346903] ata5: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0x30c0 irq 14
Dec 28 07:50:47 dv9810us kernel: [    7.346907] ata6: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0x30c8 irq 15
Dec 28 07:50:47 dv9810us kernel: [   12.395031] ata5: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
Dec 28 07:50:47 dv9810us kernel: [   17.393030] ata5: device not ready (errno=-16), forcing hardreset
Dec 28 07:50:47 dv9810us kernel: [   22.593029] ata5: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
Dec 28 07:50:47 dv9810us kernel: [   27.438032] ata5: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Dec 28 07:50:47 dv9810us kernel: [   32.638031] ata5: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
Dec 28 07:50:47 dv9810us kernel: [   37.483029] ata5: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Dec 28 07:50:47 dv9810us kernel: [   42.683030] ata5: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
Dec 28 07:50:47 dv9810us kernel: [   72.518030] ata5: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Dec 28 07:50:47 dv9810us kernel: [   77.565029] ata5: SRST failed (errno=-16)
Dec 28 07:50:47 dv9810us kernel: [   77.565081] ata5: reset failed, giving up
and the "after" messages:
Code:
Dec 28 08:38:20 dv9810us kernel: [    4.718439] ata5: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x1f0 ctl 0x3f6 bmdma 0x30c0 irq 14
Dec 28 08:38:20 dv9810us kernel: [    4.718449] ata6: PATA max UDMA/133 cmd 0x170 ctl 0x376 bmdma 0x30c8 irq 15
Dec 28 08:38:20 dv9810us kernel: [    9.767032] ata5: link is slow to respond, please be patient (ready=0)
Dec 28 08:38:20 dv9810us kernel: [   14.765030] ata5: device not ready (errno=-16), forcing hardreset
Dec 28 08:38:20 dv9810us kernel: [   14.919368] ata5.00: ATAPI: PIONEER DVDRW   DVR-K17B, 1.02, max MWDMA2
Dec 28 08:38:20 dv9810us kernel: [   14.925306] ata5.00: configured for MWDMA2
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Well, the next time I booted, the problem was still there. But, now that I'd found out that ATA5 was the DVDRW, I did a bit of experimentation and discovered that the DVD drive was acting very flakey. Basically, the only time the boot went well was when the BIOS finds the DVD device, which it hasn't done very often. Of course, when the BIOS "thinks" it's not there, it's not accessible.

Bottom line: The problem now seems to be related to a failing DVD drive.
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