Hi;

I am wondering if I need to get a sound card.

I am using Knoppix 3.2 ( 4/15/03 build ).
The kernel( according to uname -a ) is:
--------------------------------
Linux Wisdom 2.4.20-xfs #1 SMP Mit Mär 26 15:37:36 CET 2003 i686 unknown
unknown GNU/Linux
-------------------------------

My mother board is a : Intel Desktop Board D845PESV
It has onboard sound.

sndconfig & lspci detects this onboard sound as:
Intel Corp 182801DB AC '97 Audio
I think this uses a driver called i810 as snconfig errors indicate that
it is looking for that driver.

Here are the sndconfig error messages:
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lib/modules/2.4.20-xfs/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o:
init_module: No such device
?
/lib/modules/2.4.20-xfs/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.20-xfs/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.20-xfs/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o:
insmod sound-slot-0 failed
--------------------------------------

i810_audio.o is there at the path in the error message.









Running dpkg reveals that I have these two things:
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- alsa-headers 0.9.2-5
- knx-alsa 0.1-2
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

knx-alsa is a script/package made by the Knoppix folks to install ALSA.


Running dpkg -L knx-alsa reveals files that
appear to be also sound drivers, but nothing for Intel
i810 :

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/.
/etc
/etc/init.d
/usr
/usr/sbin
/usr/sbin/alsa_init
/usr/share
/usr/share/doc
/usr/share/doc/knx-alsa
/usr/share/doc/knx-alsa/copyright
/usr/share/doc/knx-alsa/changelog.Debian.gz
/lib
/lib/modules
/lib/modules/extra
/lib/modules/extra/alsa
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ac97-codec.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ad1816a-lib.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ad1816a.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ad1848-lib.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ad1848.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ainstr-fm.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ainstr-gf1.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ainstr-iw.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ainstr-simple.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ak4531-codec.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ali5451.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-als100.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-als4000.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-azt2320.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-azt3328.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-cmi8330.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-cmipci.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-cs4231-lib.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-cs4231.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-cs4232.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-cs4236-lib.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-cs4236.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-cs4281.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-cs46xx.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-cs8427.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-dt019x.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-dummy.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-emu10k1.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-emu10k1-synth.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-emu8000-synth.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-emux-synth.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ens1370.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ens1371.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-es1688-lib.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-es1688.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-es18xx.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-es1938.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-es1968.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-es968.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-fm801.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-gusclassic.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-gusextreme.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-gus-lib.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-gusmax.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-gus-synth.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-hammerfall-mem.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-hdsp.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-hwdep.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-i2c.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ice1712.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ice1724.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-intel8x0.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-interwave.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-interwave-stb.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-korg1212.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-maestro3.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-mixer-oss.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-mpu401.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-mpu401-uart.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-msnd-pinnacle.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-mtpav.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-nm256.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-opl3-lib.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-opl3sa2.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-opl3-synth.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-opti92x-ad1848.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-opti92x-cs4231.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-opti93x.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-page-alloc.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-pcm.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-pcm-oss.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-pdplus.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-rawmidi.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-rme32.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-rme9652.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-rme96.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-sb16-csp.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-sb16-dsp.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-sb16.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-sb8-dsp.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-sb8.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-sbawe.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-sb-common.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-seq-device.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-seq-dummy.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-seq-instr.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-seq-midi-emul.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-seq-midi-event.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-seq-midi.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-seq.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-seq-oss.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-seq-virmidi.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-serialmidi.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-serial-u16550.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-sgalaxy.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-sonicvibes.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-sscape.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-tea6330t.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-timer.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-trident.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-trident-synth.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-usb-audio.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-util-mem.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-via82xx.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-virmidi.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-vx222.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-vx-lib.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-vxpocket.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-wavefront.o
/lib/modules/extra/alsa/snd-ymfpci.o
/lib/modules/extra/build
/lib/modules/extra/kernel
/lib/modules/extra/modules.dep
/lib/modules/extra/modules.generic_string
/lib/modules/extra/modules.ieee1394map
/lib/modules/extra/modules.isapnpmap
/lib/modules/extra/modules.parportmap
/lib/modules/extra/modules.pcimap
/lib/modules/extra/modules.pnpbiosmap
/lib/modules/extra/modules.usbmap
/lib/modules/extra/net
/lib/modules/extra/pcmcia
/lib/modules/extra/usb
/etc/init.d/alsa-autoconfig
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However the ALSA seems to indicate that alsa supports the intel i810
driver:
http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/


I thought that maybe my ALSA install doesn't have all of the latest ALSA
drivers so I went to a download site:
ftp://ftp.alsa-project.org/pub/driver

the most modern driver package was dated March 19th 2003:
alsa-driver-0.9.2.tar.bz2

Again, no files with "i810"


So, my question is there anyting I can do to make my onboard sound
work or do I need to buy a real sound card?
( I did google )

If so, am I safe buying one of the Sound Blaster cards?

I'm a newbie, if you don't assume mountains of tech/hardware knowledge
in your answer I will be greatful

Thanks in advance

Steve

that module i8x0.o is maybe for that builtin sound you have

Interesting.

I guess that would shift my question about how to make it work for me.

Like I said, I am a cluess newbie figuring this out as I go along.

Steve

i wouldn't know much to do except
modprobe i8x0

modprobe i8x0
chmod 666 /dev/dsp
chmod 666 /dev/mi*

When I ran ( as root ) i8x0 I got:

"Can't locate module"

I did the other two things though, thanks

Steve

*According to uname -a your running a kernel built for multiple processors (SMP), do you have more than 1 cpu?

LOL. No, I am not.

That is the default kernel config that comes with Knoppix 3.2( build 4/15/03)

Steve

sorry, it was intel8x0
in your modules

I tried that too, no luck

There are also kernel modules for that driver. I am wondering if ALSA is not being activated.

Steve

are you running knoppix from the live cdrom, or do
you have it installed?
those knoppix guys love you to send the output of /proc/pci
for cards that are supposed to work, but don't. I can't
remember where and what they want you to send exactly,
but i think there is a decent hardware forum on that site,
and the board you have is probably fairly common, so
there might be something on the knoppix site. If you're
in the US, you could probably get a sound card that
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i'm pretty sure, but you can probably find something
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So your saying that knoppix comes with an SMP kernel by default?
What happens to the majority of people who have uniprocessor machines, do they have to recompile their kernel before they can troubleshoot their hardware?

For on board sound I've got this in my /etc/modules.conf:

above snd-intel8x0 snd-pcm-oss
alias sound-slot-0 snd-intel8x0

Bruno

that smp kernel that knoppix comes with works
with single processors. I remember seeing
an error message similar to
"error-only one processor found"

Well, in that case, if you've installed knoppix then you should rebuild your kernel.