[SOLVED] Difference between PCI & AGP slot

cascade9 · 04-14-2013, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by haertig

If you decide to not purchase/use a static kit, at least keep one hand in firm contact with the metal frame of your computer. And remove your shoes and socks. I would consider working on a computer without static protection and not damaging sensitive components to be more luck than anything else. Static can totally destroy a component on the first zap. But more likely is that it causes deterioration of components that you may not notice right away. Or you may blame a failure months/years down the road on a bad component when it was actually perpetuated by static damage over time. I have been in electronic manufacturing for years and I know all about static. Just because you appear to have dodged the bullet not using protection, does not mean that you actually have. But the choice is of course yours.

You dont have to use an anti-static kit, as long as you ground yourself. If getting an anti-static wrist strap makes you feel comfortable/safe, go ahead, but 95%+ of techies I've seen never use them.

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Originally Posted by Ztcoracat

Scratch that last post.
I found the driver.
It's a zip sitting in my Downloads folder-

http://www.netis-systems.com/en/prod...dapter/95.html

Have the weekend to figure out what to do after I unzip/extract the driver.
Running Debian I should be able to use 'apt' to install the driver-

I wouldnt use those drivers unless everythign else fails.

From a quick look around, it seems that wireless card uses Realtek RTL8188CE. Here is the debian guide-

http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x

BTW, in case you didnt, next time you go to buy somethign its a good idea to see what the stores have. I found a ralink wireless PCIe card at the same shop where you got the this Netis WF-2113. (IIRC ralinkis the 'freest' of the wireless adapters, but I could be wrongon that...I _never_ use wireless)

haertig · 04-14-2013, 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9

If getting an anti-static wrist strap makes you feel comfortable/safe, go ahead, but 95%+ of techies I've seen never use them.

That's a shame. Because 100% of electronic parts manufacturers use them. And anti-static shoe straps. And anti-static floor mats. And anti-static ion blowers over their workbenches. And it's all connected together to a common ground. We even used special anti-static floor wax. I'm not in parts manufacturing anymore, but I was. The industry standard is certainly not to ignore static dangers, as it looks like techies do. Why do you think all those parts come in special anti-static bags, with the pins of the chips stuck into anti-static foam material? It's not just for grins. Believe me, if manufacturers thought it was OK to skip the static protection steps as techies apparently do, those manufacturers would jump on that cost savings in a heartbeat.

Ztcoracat · 04-15-2013, 04:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cascade9

You dont have to use an anti-static kit, as long as you ground yourself. If getting an anti-static wrist strap makes you feel comfortable/safe, go ahead, but 95%+ of techies I've seen never use them.

I wouldnt use those drivers unless everythign else fails.

From a quick look around, it seems that wireless card uses Realtek RTL8188CE. Here is the debian guide-

http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x

BTW, in case you didnt, next time you go to buy somethign its a good idea to see what the stores have. I found a ralink wireless PCIe card at the same shop where you got the this Netis WF-2113. (IIRC ralinkis the 'freest' of the wireless adapters, but I could be wrongon that...I _never_ use wireless)

Thanks for the link to the Debian guide.
I'll use this driver(rtl8192) first if the card isn't responsive after I install it.

As a last resort I'll only use the one that Netis made for Linux (only if I have to)

I downloaded the Wireless Tool and the Firmware:

Quote:

Wireless-tools_30~pre 9-5_amd64.deb (and)
firmware-realtek_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb

Thanks for finding the correct driver for me

Ztcoracat · 04-15-2013, 04:16 PM

Have a lot to unplug before I can open the case.

I realized last night that I also better disconnect the keyboard, cable to the speakers, cable to the monitor and etc. Than unplug the power supply cord before I can actually pick up the case and put it up on my table.

This is challenging to say the least. I'll let you know how it goes after I install the card.

Ztcoracat · 04-16-2013, 10:01 AM

Got the Wireless tools and the firmware and the instructions.

Having trouble understanding which driver to download-
I'm running 2.6.32-5 version of the kernel.
I'm on this page is this the right one?

Code:

rtl8192ce (supported devices)

    Supports PCI-E devices based on the RTL8188CE and RTL8192CE chipsets.

    Introduced in Linux 2.6.38,7 enabled at linux-2.6 2.6.38-2.

http://wiki.debian.org/rtl819x#Drivers

Ztcoracat · 04-16-2013, 11:45 AM

I get it now-

Right in front of me the whole time. It says

Quote:

included in the mainline Linux kernel.

Looking for a driver that I didn't need because it's already in the kernel-

Ztcoracat · 04-18-2013, 06:55 PM

I successfully installed the new PCI Card with help.

I installed the firmware:

Code:

firmware-realtek_0.28+squeeze1_all.deb

And was given confirmation that it was installed-

When I went to install the "wireless-tools_30~.......
The system told me that it was already installed.

That's not surprising as I installed it for my old USB Linksys Adapter--

I don't see my wireless connection.

The card is recognized in Win's XP and that's all working-

I'm running Debian and 2.6.32-5 version of the kernel-

Please advise what I should do to get the wireless working-

TobiSGD · 04-18-2013, 07:56 PM

Please post the output of

Code:

lspci

Ztcoracat · 04-18-2013, 08:33 PM

Here's the output:

Code:

ztcoracat@mock:~$ lspci
00:00.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 Host Bridge
00:01.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (int gfx)
00:04.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 0)
00:05.0 PCI bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] RS780 PCI to PCI bridge (PCIE port 1)
00:11.0 SATA controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 SATA Controller [IDE mode]
00:12.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:12.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller
00:12.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller
00:13.0 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI0 Controller
00:13.1 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700 USB OHCI1 Controller
00:13.2 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB EHCI Controller
00:14.0 SMBus: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 SMBus Controller (rev 3a)
00:14.1 IDE interface: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 IDE Controller
00:14.2 Audio device: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 Azalia (Intel HDA)
00:14.3 ISA bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 LPC host controller
00:14.4 PCI bridge: ATI Technologies Inc SBx00 PCI to PCI Bridge
00:14.5 USB Controller: ATI Technologies Inc SB700/SB800 USB OHCI2 Controller
00:18.0 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor HyperTransport Configuration
00:18.1 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor Address Map
00:18.2 Host bridge: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] Family 10h Processor DRAM Controller

Ztcoracat · 04-18-2013, 08:36 PM

This is my new card; I'm pretty sure--

Code:

02:00.0 Network controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL8188CE 802.11b/g/n WiFi Adapter (rev 01)

TobiSGD · 04-19-2013, 04:26 AM

According to Debian's wiki you need at least kernel 2.6.38 for this device to be supported. I would recommend to upgrade to Debian Wheezy/7.0, it will be released in May anyways, so it should be pretty stable already.

Ztcoracat · 04-19-2013, 10:01 AM

Thanks Tobi!

I'll go to the Debian website and learn how to upgrade to Wheezy 7.0.

Ztcoracat · 04-19-2013, 06:50 PM

Found good information but it seems like a lot to handle-

http://www.debian.org/releases/testi...rading.en.html
http://www.acmesystems.it/squeeze2wheezy

May not be able to upgrade. My Debian OS doesn't have an internet connection and I honestly don't want to do a new complete install-

TobiSGD · 04-19-2013, 07:06 PM

You also can try to install a newer kernel from the backports repository to get your wireless working, after that it shouldn't be hard to upgrade to Wheezy, if you still want to do that.

Ztcoracat · 04-19-2013, 07:13 PM

I'll try to install a newer kernel.
But I have to go and learn how--

Would a Debian backport be sufficient?

Where I'm starting to learn from:
http://backports.debian.org/