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Old 09-30-2008, 08:38 PM   #1
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Dell L800r won't boot CD 700MB/DVDs


Hi All,

Here's what I have tried:
1. CDRW drive will only boot 650MB discs
2. DVD-ROM drive will only boot 650MB discs
The discs I'm trying to boot, are known good discs that boot in other boxes.
3. I flashed the m/b bios to the latest, and flashed the CDRW's firmware to the latest.
I can't find anything else to flash.

Here's the hardware:
Manufacturer: Dell Computer Corporation
Product name: L800r
DMI Version: 2.3
Motherboard Manufacturer: Intel Corporation
Model : CA810E
Version: AAA01025-310
Serial Number: 0007157X124650BD00I8
Chipset Model: 82810E 810e Host-Hub Interface and Memory Controller
Chipset Vendor: Intel Corporation
CPU: Intel Pentium III
CPU socket: Socket 370 [J5H1]
Processor Upgrade: ZIF Socket
Max CPU speed: 1000 MHz
OnBoard devices:
Enabled Video: Intel GMCH AGP Graphics Controller
Capacity: 384 MBytes
Location: System board or motherboard
Maximum Capacity: 524288 MBytes
Maximum Memory Module Size: 256 MBytes
Slots: 2
Error Correction: None
Name: Physical Memory Array
Use: System memory
SMBus: @0000efa0
PCI Device: Intel Corporation 82801AA 8xx Chipset SMBus Controller
BIOS Version: DELL - 20010905
BIOS Date: 09/05/2001
BIOS Web page: www.award.com
BIOS Vendor: Intel Corp.
Version: A14
BIOS size: 512 KB
LG_CD-RW_CED-8080B______________________1.80____
IDE\Maxtor_32049H2__________________________YAH814Y0
Intel(R) 82801AA Bus Master IDE Controller
PCI\VEN_8086&DEV_2411&SUBSYS_24118086&REV_02\3&61AAA01&0&F9
ADMtek AN983 based ethernet adapter
Device ID PCI\VEN_1317&DEV_0985&SUBSYS_EC021113&REV_11\4&24AB0D93&0&58F0
Creative AudioPCI (ES1371,ES1373)
Intel(R) 82801AA PCI Bridge

What have I missed? Why won't this machine boot a 700MB CD or a DVD? Thanks.

T
 
Old 10-01-2008, 07:58 AM   #2
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It would help to include the relevant portions of dmesg.

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Ok, this is the dmesg from Knoppix. I had wiped OpenBSD & WinXP on there to install some firmware. I'll put OpenBSD back later. Hope this helps.
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Linux version 2.6.19 (root@Knoppix) (gcc version 4.1.2 20061028 (prerelease) (Debian 4.1.1-19)) #7 SMP PREEMPT Sun Dec 17 22:01:07 CET 2006
BIOS-provided physical RAM map:
BIOS-e820: 0000000000000000 - 000000000009fc00 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 000000000009fc00 - 00000000000a0000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000000e0000 - 0000000000100000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 0000000000100000 - 0000000017ec0000 (usable)
BIOS-e820: 0000000017ec0000 - 0000000017ef8000 (ACPI data)
BIOS-e820: 0000000017ef8000 - 0000000017f00000 (ACPI NVS)
BIOS-e820: 00000000ffb80000 - 00000000ffc00000 (reserved)
BIOS-e820: 00000000fff00000 - 0000000100000000 (reserved)
0MB HIGHMEM available.
382MB LOWMEM available.
Entering add_active_range(0, 0, 97984) 0 entries of 256 used
Zone PFN ranges:
DMA 0 -> 4096
Normal 4096 -> 97984
HighMem 97984 -> 97984
early_node_map[1] active PFN ranges
0: 0 -> 97984
On node 0 totalpages: 97984
DMA zone: 32 pages used for memmap
DMA zone: 0 pages reserved
DMA zone: 4064 pages, LIFO batch:0
Normal zone: 733 pages used for memmap
Normal zone: 93155 pages, LIFO batch:31
HighMem zone: 0 pages used for memmap
DMI 2.3 present.
ACPI: RSDP (v000 AMI ) @ 0x000ff980
ACPI: RSDT (v001 DELL MUMMY 0x20010905 MSFT 0x00000097) @ 0x17ef0000
ACPI: FADT (v001 DELL MUMMY 0x20010905 MSFT 0x00000097) @ 0x17ef1000
ACPI: BOOT (v001 DELL MUMMY 0x20010905 MSFT 0x00000097) @ 0x17ef4000
ACPI: DSDT (v001 DELL DIM_L 0x00000013 MSFT 0x0100000b) @ 0x00000000
ACPI: PM-Timer IO Port: 0x408
Allocating PCI resources starting at 20000000 (gap: 17f00000:e7c80000)
Detected 797.449 MHz processor.
Built 1 zonelists. Total pages: 97219
Kernel command line: ramdisk_size=100000 init=/etc/init lang=us apm=power-off vga=791 initrd=minirt.gz nomce loglevel=0 quiet BOOT_IMAGE=knoppix BOOT_IMAGE=linux screen=1280x1024 depth=16
Local APIC disabled by BIOS -- you can enable it with "lapic"
mapped APIC to ffffd000 (0130b000)
Enabling fast FPU save and restore... done.
Enabling unmasked SIMD FPU exception support... done.
Initializing CPU#0
PID hash table entries: 2048 (order: 11, 8192 bytes)
Console: colour dummy device 80x25
Dentry cache hash table entries: 65536 (order: 6, 262144 bytes)
Inode-cache hash table entries: 32768 (order: 5, 131072 bytes)
Memory: 382312k/391936k available (2747k kernel code, 9088k reserved, 958k data, 336k init, 0k highmem)
virtual kernel memory layout:
fixmap : 0xffe16000 - 0xfffff000 (1956 kB)
pkmap : 0xff800000 - 0xffc00000 (4096 kB)
vmalloc : 0xd8800000 - 0xff7fe000 ( 623 MB)
lowmem : 0xc0000000 - 0xd7ec0000 ( 382 MB)
.init : 0xc04a6000 - 0xc04fa000 ( 336 kB)
.data : 0xc03aef9c - 0xc049e7b4 ( 958 kB)
.text : 0xc0100000 - 0xc03aef9c (2747 kB)
Checking if this processor honours the WP bit even in supervisor mode... Ok.
Calibrating delay using timer specific routine.. 1596.23 BogoMIPS (lpj=3192472)
Security Framework v1.0.0 initialized
SELinux: Disabled at boot.
Capability LSM initialized
Mount-cache hash table entries: 512
CPU: After generic identify, caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000 00000000
CPU: L1 I cache: 16K, L1 D cache: 16K
CPU: L2 cache: 256K
CPU: After all inits, caps: 0383f9ff 00000000 00000000 00000040 00000000 00000000 00000000
Compat vDSO mapped to ffffe000.
Checking 'hlt' instruction... OK.
Checking for popad bug... OK.
SMP alternatives: switching to UP code
Freeing SMP alternatives: 16k freed
ACPI: Core revision 20060707
ACPI: setting ELCR to 0200 (from 0e08)
CPU0: Intel Pentium III (Coppermine) stepping 06
SMP motherboard not detected.
Local APIC not detected. Using dummy APIC emulation.
Brought up 1 CPUs
checking if image is initramfs...it isn't (no cpio magic); looks like an initrd
Freeing initrd memory: 1188k freed
NET: Registered protocol family 16
EISA bus registered
ACPI: bus type pci registered
PCI: PCI BIOS revision 2.10 entry at 0xfda95, last bus=1
PCI: Using configuration type 1
Setting up standard PCI resources
ACPI: Interpreter enabled
ACPI: Using PIC for interrupt routing
ACPI: PCI Root Bridge [PCI0] (0000:00)
PCI: Probing PCI hardware (bus 00)
PCI quirk: region 0400-047f claimed by ICH4 ACPI/GPIO/TCO
PCI quirk: region 0500-053f claimed by ICH4 GPIO
Boot video device is 0000:01:08.0
PCI: Transparent bridge - 0000:00:1e.0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0._PRT]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Routing Table [\_SB_.PCI0.PCI1._PRT]
ACPI: Power Resource [URP1] (off)
ACPI: Power Resource [URP2] (off)
ACPI: Power Resource [FDDP] (off)
ACPI: Power Resource [LPTP] (off)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 *11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 *9 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] (IRQs *3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 *10 11 12 14 15)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKE] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKF] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKG] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKH] (IRQs 3 4 5 6 7 9 10 11 12 14 15) *0
Linux Plug and Play Support v0.97 (c) Adam Belay
pnp: PnP ACPI init
pnp: PnP ACPI: found 11 devices
PnPBIOS: Disabled by ACPI PNP
intel_rng: FWH not detected
SCSI subsystem initialized
libata version 2.00 loaded.
PCI: Using ACPI for IRQ routing
PCI: If a device doesn't work, try "pci=routeirq". If it helps, post a report
NetLabel: Initializing
NetLabel: domain hash size = 128
NetLabel: protocols = UNLABELED CIPSOv4
NetLabel: unlabeled traffic allowed by default
PCI: Bridge: 0000:00:1e.0
IO window: d000-dfff
MEM window: fc900000-fe9fffff
PREFETCH window: f0700000-f47fffff
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1e.0 to 64
NET: Registered protocol family 2
IP route cache hash table entries: 4096 (order: 2, 16384 bytes)
TCP established hash table entries: 16384 (order: 5, 196608 bytes)
TCP bind hash table entries: 8192 (order: 4, 98304 bytes)
TCP: Hash tables configured (established 16384 bind 8192)
TCP reno registered
Simple Boot Flag at 0x7a set to 0x1
audit: initializing netlink socket (disabled)
audit(1222987906.592:1): initialized
Total HugeTLB memory allocated, 0
VFS: Disk quotas dquot_6.5.1
Dquot-cache hash table entries: 1024 (order 0, 4096 bytes)
fuse init (API version 7.8)
fuse distribution version: 2.6.1
io scheduler noop registered
io scheduler anticipatory registered
io scheduler deadline registered (default)
io scheduler cfq registered
vesafb: framebuffer at 0xf2000000, mapped to 0xd8880000, using 3072k, total 16384k
vesafb: mode is 1024x768x16, linelength=2048, pages=0
vesafb: protected mode interface info at c000:0393
vesafb: pmi: set display start = c00c03cc, set palette = c00c0442
vesafb: pmi: ports = 3b4 3b5 3ba 3c0 3c1 3c4 3c5 3c6 3c7 3c8 3c9 3cc 3ce 3cf 3d0 3d1 3d2 3d3 3d4 3d5 3da
vesafb: scrolling: redraw
vesafb: Truecolor: size=0:5:6:5, shift=0:11:5:0
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 128x48
fb0: VESA VGA frame buffer device
isapnp: Scanning for PnP cards...
isapnp: No Plug & Play device found
Real Time Clock Driver v1.12ac
Floppy drive(s): fd0 is 1.44M
FDC 0 is a post-1991 82077
RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 100000K size 1024 blocksize
Uniform Multi-Platform E-IDE driver Revision: 7.00alpha2
ide: Assuming 33MHz system bus speed for PIO modes; override with idebus=xx
ICH: IDE controller at PCI slot 0000:00:1f.1
ICH: chipset revision 2
ICH: not 100% native mode: will probe irqs later
ide0: BM-DMA at 0xffa0-0xffa7, BIOS settings: hdaMA, hdbio
ide1: BM-DMA at 0xffa8-0xffaf, BIOS settings: hdcMA, hddio
Probing IDE interface ide0...
hda: Maxtor 32049H2, ATA DISK drive
ide0 at 0x1f0-0x1f7,0x3f6 on irq 14
Probing IDE interface ide1...
hdc: JLMS XJ-HD163D, ATAPI CD/DVD-ROM drive
ide1 at 0x170-0x177,0x376 on irq 15
hda: max request size: 128KiB
hda: 39062500 sectors (20000 MB) w/2048KiB Cache, CHS=38752/16/63
hda: cache flushes not supported
hda: hda1
hdc: ATAPI 48X DVD-ROM drive, 512kB Cache
Uniform CD-ROM driver Revision: 3.20
Loading iSCSI transport class v2.0-724.<6>PNP: PS/2 Controller [PNP0303:PS2K,PNP0f03:PS2M] at 0x60,0x64 irq 1,12
serio: i8042 KBD port at 0x60,0x64 irq 1
serio: i8042 AUX port at 0x60,0x64 irq 12
mice: PS/2 mouse device common for all mice
EISA: Probing bus 0 at eisa.0
EISA: Detected 0 cards.
Initializing XFRM netlink socket
NET: Registered protocol family 1
NET: Registered protocol family 15
Using IPI No-Shortcut mode
ACPI: (supports S0 S1 S4 S5)
Time: tsc clocksource has been installed.
input: AT Translated Set 2 keyboard as /class/input/input0
input: ImPS/2 Logitech Wheel Mouse as /class/input/input1
RAMDISK: Compressed image found at block 0
EXT2-fs warning: checktime reached, running e2fsck is recommended
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
Failed initialization of WD-7000 SCSI card!
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbfs
usbcore: registered new interface driver hub
usbcore: registered new device driver usb
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKA] enabled at IRQ 11
PCI: setting IRQ 11 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:0a.2[C] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
ehci_hcd 0000:01:0a.2: EHCI Host Controller
ehci_hcd 0000:01:0a.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 1
ehci_hcd 0000:01:0a.2: irq 11, io mem 0xfe9ef800
ehci_hcd 0000:01:0a.2: USB 2.0 started, EHCI 0.95, driver 10 Dec 2004
usb usb1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 1-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 1-0:1.0: 5 ports detected
USB Universal Host Controller Interface driver v3.0
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKD] enabled at IRQ 10
PCI: setting IRQ 10 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.2[D] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
PCI: Setting latency timer of device 0000:00:1f.2 to 64
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: UHCI Host Controller
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 2
uhci_hcd 0000:00:1f.2: irq 10, io base 0x0000ef80
usb usb2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 2-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 2-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
ohci_hcd: 2006 August 04 USB 1.1 'Open' Host Controller (OHCI) Driver (PCI)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKC] enabled at IRQ 3
PCI: setting IRQ 3 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:0a.0[A] -> Link [LNKC] -> GSI 3 (level, low) -> IRQ 3
ohci_hcd 0000:01:0a.0: OHCI Host Controller
ohci_hcd 0000:01:0a.0: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 3
ohci_hcd 0000:01:0a.0: irq 3, io mem 0xfe9ed000
usb usb3: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 3-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 3-0:1.0: 3 ports detected
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:0a.1[B] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
ohci_hcd 0000:01:0a.1: OHCI Host Controller
ohci_hcd 0000:01:0a.1: new USB bus registered, assigned bus number 4
ohci_hcd 0000:01:0a.1: irq 10, io mem 0xfe9ee000
usb usb4: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
hub 4-0:1.0: USB hub found
hub 4-0:1.0: 2 ports detected
usbcore: registered new interface driver libusual
usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev
usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
drivers/usb/input/hid-core.c: v2.6:USB HID core driver
Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
usbcore: registered new interface driver usb-storage
USB Mass Storage support registered.
ieee1394: Initialized config rom entry `ip1394'
ieee1394: sbp2: Driver forced to serialize I/O (serialize_io=1)
ieee1394: sbp2: Try serialize_io=0 for better performance
Warning: /proc/ide/hd?/settings interface is obsolete, and will be removed soon!
Unable to identify CD-ROM format.
VFS: Can't find an ext2 filesystem on dev hda.
ReiserFS: hda: warning: sh-2021: reiserfs_fill_super: can not find reiserfs on hda
FAT: invalid media value (0xb9)
VFS: Can't find a valid FAT filesystem on dev hda.
ISO 9660 Extensions: Microsoft Joliet Level 3
ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
cloop: Initializing cloop v2.05
cloop: loaded (max 8 devices)
cloop: /cdrom/KNOPPIX/KNOPPIX: 15609 blocks, 131072 bytes/block, largest block is 131098 bytes.
cloop: loaded 64 blocks into cache.
ISO 9660 Extensions: RRIP_1991A
aufs 2.6.19-20061211
Freeing unused kernel memory: 336k freed
ACPI: Power Button (FF) [PWRF]
ACPI: Power Button (CM) [PBTN]
Using specific hotkey driver
cpufreq: No nForce2 chipset.
powernow: This module only works with AMD K7 CPUs
Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
agpgart: Detected an Intel i810 E Chipset.
agpgart: detected 4MB dedicated video ram.
agpgart: AGP aperture is 64M @ 0xf8000000
pci_hotplug: PCI Hot Plug PCI Core version: 0.5
shpchp: Standard Hot Plug PCI Controller Driver version: 0.4
ACPI: PCI Interrupt Link [LNKB] enabled at IRQ 9
PCI: setting IRQ 9 as level-triggered
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:1f.3[B] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9
Linux Tulip driver version 1.1.14 (May 11, 2002)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:0b.0[A] -> Link [LNKD] -> GSI 10 (level, low) -> IRQ 10
tulip0: MII transceiver #1 config 3100 status 7869 advertising 05e1.
eth0: ADMtek Comet rev 17 at Port 0xd800, 00:50:BF:AF:E6:EE, IRQ 10.
Serial: 8250/16550 driver $Revision: 1.90 $ 4 ports, IRQ sharing disabled
serial8250: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
00:08: ttyS0 at I/O 0x3f8 (irq = 4) is a 16550A
parport: PnPBIOS parport detected.
parport0: PC-style at 0x378, irq 7 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,EPP]
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:01:09.0[A] -> Link [LNKB] -> GSI 9 (level, low) -> IRQ 9
NET: Registered protocol family 17
0000:01:0b.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
0000:01:0b.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1.
NET: Registered protocol family 10
lo: Disabled Privacy Extensions
Mobile IPv6
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
device-mapper: ioctl: 4.10.0-ioctl (2006-09-14) initialised: dm-devel@redhat.com
[drm] Initialized drm 1.0.1 20051102
PCI: Enabling device 0000:00:01.0 (0004 -> 0006)
ACPI: PCI Interrupt 0000:00:01.0[A] -> Link [LNKA] -> GSI 11 (level, low) -> IRQ 11
[drm] Initialized i810 1.4.0 20030605 on minor 0
0000:01:0b.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
0000:01:0b.0: tulip_stop_rxtx() failed
eth0: Setting full-duplex based on MII#1 link partner capability of 45e1.
eth0: no IPv6 routers present
 
Old 10-03-2008, 07:35 AM   #4
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Hmm, we have a tough one here. Other than the fact that I don't recognize the vendor of your CD/DVD at all, I don't see any red flags here.

I want to make sure I understand you right: disks larger than 650 megs can be booted, included standard 4 GB DVD's?
But can you READ (rather than boot) those larger disks?

If you can read all 700+ megs of a CD and all 4 GB (or so) of a DVD, the drive is not faulty: your BIOS has a problem.

If you can NOT read past 650 megs on a CD or DVD, the drive has issues.

To double-check, do the ol' swap out routine by putting this drive in a known good computer. If it works, it's the Dell; if not, it's the drive.

In any case, this doesn't look like a Linux (or any OS) problem at this point.

Mike
 
Old 10-04-2008, 06:59 PM   #5
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The DVD-ROM is a LiteOn LTD163D, but I just flashed it with some firmware that doesn't say anything about LiteOn. It seems to function normally in WinXP. Before I flashed it, I had the problem, and I still have the problem. So the firmware makes NO difference.

With either the CDR or DVD-ROM, I can only boot < 650 MB. Except for the knoppix disc which is about 680MB. I believe that the way the .isos that won't boot is part of the problem. The NetBSD CD (700MB) & PCBSD DVD won't boot on the Dell, but boot fine on my laptop or newer desktop.

Once booted, I think they read OK, but I can't remember if I tried it. Right now, I only have XP on the box. I'll try to put OpenBSD or NetBSD on it after I get this figured out.

I'll try to swap the drive and see what happens. Thank.

T
 
Old 10-05-2008, 12:03 AM   #6
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Hi,

I believe you are experiencing a BIOS problem handling 4K blocks vs 8k blocks. Most older BIOS would handle the 4K data but with new distributions using a 8K data block then the older BIOS could not handle the newer data blocks.

BTW, you should place your data such as dmesg or other long lists of data within the vbcode tags quote or code. The balloon at the top of the reply window next to the # is the quote, with the # being code. That way things are easier to read. You can still go back an edit your posts to place the data within the code tags.
 
Old 10-06-2008, 07:11 PM   #7
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Thanks for the tip on posting in the quotes. I didn't know that. So are you saying that this is no way to make the disks bootable, or can the BIOS be fixed? Thanks.
 
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Hi,
Quote:
Originally Posted by tschima View Post
Thanks for the tip on posting in the quotes. I didn't know that. So are you saying that this is no way to make the disks bootable, or can the BIOS be fixed? Thanks.
You can change the blocks by mounting the iso and editing for the 4K or 8K block then create another iso. You should search for a remedy since this has been covered a lot in detail here on LQ.

If your BIOS has been updated to the manufactures resent level and you still have the problem then you are not going to rid yourself of the BIOS limits.
 
  


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