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Old 11-05-2007, 11:45 PM   #1
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Dell Inspiron 2600 Any compatible Linux?


I have an old dell inspiron 2600 1.2 Ghz laptop that isa prime candidate for linux. Does anyone have a good idea what distro would work the best on it? I do alot of networking and database stuff so I would love to use it for on the road!!

Thanks for your input !!!

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Old 11-06-2007, 03:29 AM   #2
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Did you check the HCL before you posted?
 
Old 11-06-2007, 10:51 AM   #3
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1.2ghz is not that old. I have a dell latitude c610 1ghz and it has ran fine with anything that I put on it. Slackware 10.2, ubuntu 6.06, and debian-testing all worked fine. I am sticking with debian testing because I found ubuntu had too much bloat and ran slow.
 
Old 11-06-2007, 11:16 AM   #4
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Cool Thanks :)

Thanks for the info esaym I was looking for some input like that! I put ubuntu on it last night and you are sooo right!! it was pretty bloated. Im sure it would speed up if i compiled my own build for it Baby steps... Thanks for the direction Simon, I did check it and found a post that said Fedora core 2 was a good trouble free load. I went ahead and D/led Fedora core 7 thinking that it would ahve more compatibility than core 2.... All sorts of video config problems from the get go I do know that in a way that is a good thing,i.e. Makes you figure out whats happening. I ahve been installing from the console as much as i can to learn as i go. Linuxquestions.org is a fanstatic resource for learning!!! Thank you for fast replys, and good advice!!

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Old 11-06-2007, 06:32 PM   #5
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I put ubuntu on it last night and you are sooo right!! it was pretty bloated.
Where? Be specific!

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the meaning of the term as it applies to software.

Can you provide examples of:
  • efficiency-focused applications replaced with less efficient enhanced versions
  • unnecessary modules in program design and operation
  • the incorporation of extended features which will be extraneous or low value for most users but slow down the program overall even if unused
  • the prioritization of marketing and "headline feature-set" over quality and focus
  • use larger amounts of system resources (mass storage space, processing power or memory) than older versions of the same programs, without concomitant benefits being provided to end users

The "bloat" accusation has been levelled at a large number of quite efficient linux's. The third bullet above is usually the kicker... if not using the "feature" doesn't slow down the whole, then it ain't bloat.

OTOH: compiling your own software exactly for your hardware does produce a snappier feel. If that is what you are after, then you want Yoper, Gentoo or Slackware. Sabayon is Gentoo with 3D desktop effects by default. Zenwalk is slackware slimmed down to essentials.

No linux, out of the box, can be expected to provide exactly your desired/needed features and functionality. Speciality (embedded) linuxes do this - they've been custom "crafted" for the HW they were installed on.

If "absolute minimum" applications is more your style, the puppy, feather, DSL, and mu are your candidates.

The ultimate

On fedora: Ironically, almost anything else would have worked first time. You'll have discovered you don't get much out of installing in console mode. If you do that with fedora, anaconda doesn't enable X and you will have video issues indeed. Where possible, install with as many features enabled as you expect to use. Use the gui and plug all your periferals in.

You need to know how to read technical entries. (Practise on the man pages.) The HCL was telling you that a linux distro as early as FC2 had all the HW supported out of the box and no reported acpi issues.

Of course, dell have been known to change things (like BIOS) in different shipments of the same product. Especially with laptops. Even if I had a copy in front of me working fine, that's no guarantee it will work for yours. In the end, you have to attempt an install and see.

The main point was that you could have installed with confidence - and you did.
 
Old 11-10-2007, 08:34 AM   #6
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Where? Be specific!

Perhaps you are unfamiliar with the meaning of the term as it applies to software.

Can you provide examples of:
  • efficiency-focused applications replaced with less efficient enhanced versions
  • unnecessary modules in program design and operation
  • the incorporation of extended features which will be extraneous or low value for most users but slow down the program overall even if unused
  • the prioritization of marketing and "headline feature-set" over quality and focus
  • use larger amounts of system resources (mass storage space, processing power or memory) than older versions of the same programs, without concomitant benefits being provided to end users

The "bloat" accusation has been levelled at a large number of quite efficient linux's. The third bullet above is usually the kicker... if not using the "feature" doesn't slow down the whole, then it ain't bloat.

OTOH: compiling your own software exactly for your hardware does produce a snappier feel. If that is what you are after, then you want Yoper, Gentoo or Slackware. Sabayon is Gentoo with 3D desktop effects by default. Zenwalk is slackware slimmed down to essentials.

No linux, out of the box, can be expected to provide exactly your desired/needed features and functionality. Speciality (embedded) linuxes do this - they've been custom "crafted" for the HW they were installed on.

If "absolute minimum" applications is more your style, the puppy, feather, DSL, and mu are your candidates.

The ultimate

On fedora: Ironically, almost anything else would have worked first time. You'll have discovered you don't get much out of installing in console mode. If you do that with fedora, anaconda doesn't enable X and you will have video issues indeed. Where possible, install with as many features enabled as you expect to use. Use the gui and plug all your periferals in.

You need to know how to read technical entries. (Practise on the man pages.) The HCL was telling you that a linux distro as early as FC2 had all the HW supported out of the box and no reported acpi issues.

Of course, dell have been known to change things (like BIOS) in different shipments of the same product. Especially with laptops. Even if I had a copy in front of me working fine, that's no guarantee it will work for yours. In the end, you have to attempt an install and see.

The main point was that you could have installed with confidence - and you did.
Well ubuntu comes with stuff I don't want and can't uninstall. That is my definition

DrivenMad, If you are having video trouble try copying the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file from a working setup to a thumb drive or something. Some distros just don't set that file up right for certain video cards and others set it up fine. If you think ubuntu is "bloated" I would recommend just doing a minimal debian install: http://www.lindsay.ath.cx/ubuntu_vs_debian.html
 
Old 11-10-2007, 10:37 AM   #7
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Well ubuntu comes with stuff I don't want and can't uninstall.
Like what? Be specific.
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That is my definition
If you want to make up your own definitions...
 
  


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