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Old 03-20-2003, 05:57 PM   #1
jumpingcaribou
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Angry dell & redhat8.0 aren't my friends


here it is again. INTEL 845
i have a dell system with on board video intel845G/GL chipset.
I am trying to run redhat 8.0 but don't seem to get it to work properly. I updated both the kernel and xfre86 to the latest versions and even upsized the video mem allocation to 8MB in the bios.
right now i am logging in from a prompt and once there, i type the cmd startx. what i end up with is looking like a very old unix set of xterm windows, all square and ugly ( i feel like i am going back in time!)

i think the problem comes from the Xfree86 configuration, but i have tried everything i thought possible. if anybody has an idea how i could fix it .....

the following is my XF86Config file (I have a log file but it is too long for this message, if anybody wants to see it just let me know)

#XF86Config
# File generated by anaconda.

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Anaconda Configured"
Screen 0 "Screen0" 0 0
InputDevice "Mouse0" "CorePointer"
#

InputDevice "Keyboard0" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Section "Files"

# The location of the RGB database. Note, this is the name of the
# file minus the extension (like ".txt" or ".db"). There is normally
# no need to change the default.

RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Red Hat 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

FontPath "unix/:7100"

EndSection

Section "Module"
Load "dbe"
Load "extmod"
Load "fbdevhw"
Load "dri"
Load "glx"
Load "record"
Load "freetype"
Load "type1"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Keyboard0"
Driver "keyboard"

# Option "AutoRepeat" "500 5"

# when using XQUEUE, comment out the above line, and uncomment the
# following line
# Option "Protocol" "Xqueue"

# Specify which keyboard LEDs can be user-controlled (eg, with xset(1))
# Option "Xleds" "1 2 3"

# To disable the XKEYBOARD extension, uncomment XkbDisable.
# Option "XkbDisable"

# To customise the XKB settings to suit your keyboard, modify the
# lines below (which are the defaults). For example, for a non-U.S.
# keyboard, you will probably want to use:
# Option "XkbModel" "pc102"
# If you have a US Microsoft Natural keyboard, you can use:
# Option "XkbModel" "microsoft"
#
# Then to change the language, change the Layout setting.
# For example, a german layout can be obtained with:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# or:
# Option "XkbLayout" "de"
# Option "XkbVariant" "nodeadkeys"
#
# If you'd like to switch the positions of your capslock and
# control keys, use:
# Option "XkbOptions" "ctrl:swapcaps"
Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
#Option "XkbVariant" ""
#Option "XkbOptions" ""
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Mouse0"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "IMPS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
Option "Emulate3Buttons" "yes"
EndSection

#


Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Monitor0"
VendorName "Monitor Vendor"
ModelName "Monitor Model"
HorizSync 31-80
VertRefresh 56-76
Option "dpms"


EndSection

Section "Device"
# no known options
Identifier "intel 845 "
Driver "i810"
VendorName "intel"
BoardName "i845G/GL"
#BoardName "82845G/GL [Brookdale-G] Chipset Integrated Graphics Device"
#BusID
#BusID "PCI:0:2:0"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Screen0"
Device "intel 845"
Monitor "Monitor0"
DefaultDepth 16

Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1208x960" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
EndSubsection
# SubSection "Display"
# Depth 16
# Modes "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
# EndSubSection

EndSection

Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
 
Old 03-20-2003, 06:05 PM   #2
JayCnrs
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Do you have agpgart loaded ?

Type this command to see if it is loaded:
lsmod

If it doesn't show up type this command:

modprobe agpgart

That should load the AGP support.

Let me know if this works.
 
Old 03-20-2003, 07:54 PM   #3
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Not sure if RedHat uses this, but can you post the contents of your ~/.xinitrc file? Sounds to me more like you're loading up a primitive window manager than any kind of error.
 
Old 03-21-2003, 09:12 AM   #4
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grrr

I loaded the agp support and the display did not change, it still looked like some ol' unix workstation.

also i could not find any ~/.xinitrc file. if you can tell me what it does then maybe i will be able to find the equivalent in redhat.

still stuck.
grrrrrr
 
Old 03-21-2003, 09:43 AM   #5
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as the graphics look good but i was thinking the x server manager is on crack.... any insight on that ?


oh and i finally found the xinitrc file
here it comes


#!/bin/sh
# $Xorg: xinitrc.cpp,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:30 cpqbld Exp $

userresources=$HOME/.Xresources
usermodmap=$HOME/.Xmodmap
sysresources=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xresources
sysmodmap=/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/.Xmodmap

# merge in defaults and keymaps

if [ -f $sysresources ]; then
xrdb -merge $sysresources
fi

if [ -f $sysmodmap ]; then
xmodmap $sysmodmap
fi

if [ -f $userresources ]; then
xrdb -merge $userresources
fi

if [ -f $usermodmap ]; then
xmodmap $usermodmap
fi

# start some nice programs

twm &
xclock -geometry 50x50-1+1 &
xterm -geometry 80x50+494+51 &
xterm -geometry 80x20+494-0 &
exec xterm -geometry 80x66+0+0 -name login
 
Old 03-21-2003, 10:44 AM   #6
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You need XFree86-4.3.0 and kernel 2.4.21-pre5-ac3 for improved 845 support, you can install them yourself or wait for Redhat 8.1.
 
Old 03-21-2003, 11:44 AM   #7
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Unhappy Same problem

I have the same system--Dell 2350 + RH8 with the Intel 82845G/GL. It does NOT like XF86, but I believe I have found out why.

http://www.xfree86.org/~dawes/845driver.html

The important part is:
Quote:
5 February 2003: I committed support for the Intel 865G integrated graphics chipset to the XFree86 CVS trunk, and it will be included in the XFree86 4.3.0 release.
It also mentions an updated agpart, but then listsl the chips that need it and the 845 isn't in there.

I'm going to try the 4.3.0 release. I found an RPM exists, according to this post:

http://www.redhat.com/mailing-lists/.../msg01509.html

Regards,
 
Old 03-21-2003, 11:47 AM   #8
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Rats! I see what you mean Aussie (you posted yours while I was researching stuff on mine). I think I'll stick with the VESA driver until 8.1 comes out. Not interested in RH's sub-release--I have enough trouble with the release level stuff
 
Old 03-22-2003, 04:50 PM   #9
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ok here is the solution
after a week of fun i finally manage to get it to work. whatever is published on the xfree.org website is pure crap. this guy was on crack. first he does not explain correctly what has to be done. second even if you do everything he says it still does not work.
anyway. the way to do it is to go to the following address
http://support.intel.com/support/linux/graphics.html
once there click on the download finder and download a file called something like i830-20030120-i386.tar.gz
reboot your computer making sure that x is not running in the background.
follow the instructions given by the intel support ( if you need help email me) don't worry if the names are different.
this should work just fine
it is actually quite simple and straightforward.
have fun
-j
 
Old 03-23-2003, 02:14 PM   #10
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The link doesn't work--but this one seems to be the one you are referring to:

http://support.intel.com/support/gra...x/graphics.htm

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! No more dismal buggy VESA 800x600x256 mode!

(note: 'buggy' is entirely subjective--it could easily have been my mistake in configuring it with incorrect mem amounts, etc.)

It works! It looks great! Now why isn't TuxRacer starting....
 
Old 03-24-2003, 07:51 AM   #11
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Try to lower your resolution. you can do that simply with <ctrl><alt><-> (<-> from the number pad)

hope that help
 
Old 06-19-2003, 06:20 PM   #12
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Tux Working!!

Finally got TuxRacer working properly. Somehow my DRI was disabled--I probably did that running XConfig some time when I didn't know any better.

Symptom was that TuxRacer would run, but EXTREMELY slowly. Pretty obvious a lack of 3d acceleration. I upgraded to the latest (as of Mar. 2003, I think) Intel drivers for my 845G and added the DRI section back in my X Config, and it's off to the slopes....

Just posting this in case anyone else runs into this and is searching for a solution.
 
  


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