Delay when detecting a soundcard

Puforoz · 01-25-2023, 01:42 PM

Hello!
After installing the OS, the sound in the system appears approximately one minute after booting. I noticed that at first there is one audio device in pacmd list-cards, and after the appearance of the sound there are 2 of them. I tried to set the sequence of sound cards in the /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf file

Code:

alias char-major-116 snd
alias snd-card-0 snd-hda-intel
alias snd-card-1 snd-hda-intel

options snd cards_limit=2

options snd-hda-intel id=PCH index=0
options snd-hda-intel id=NVidia index=1

but it doesn't help.

Perhaps I am specifying something incorrectly? Or is there another way to solve the problem?
I really hope for your help.

Code:

$ lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Debian
Description:    Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
Release:        11
Codename:       bullseye

$ uname -a
Linux debian 5.10.0-20-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.158-2 (2022-12-13) x86_64 GNU/Linux

$ plasmashell --version
plasmashell 5.20.5

Code:

$ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC897 Analog [ALC897 Analog]
  Subdevices: 0/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 3: HDMI 0 [HDMI 0]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 7: HDMI 1 [HDMI 1]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 8: HDMI 2 [HDMI 2]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 9: HDMI 3 [HDMI 3]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 10: HDMI 4 [HDMI 4]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 11: HDMI 5 [HDMI 5]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0
card 1: NVidia [HDA NVidia], device 12: HDMI 6 [HDMI 6]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

aus9 · 01-26-2023, 10:37 PM

hi until you get a better reply...
I suggest to delete your current /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
Also delete any .asoundrc and /etc/asound.conf
and do a full reboot.

now look at your

Code:

aplay -l

output

You have mentioned you want PCH so I assume you want analog sound out not hdmi.
Please reply with what type of sound device out you wish to connect to.

Leaping ahead....if I am correct hdmi shows up as card 0 then use root powers to create file
/etc/modprobe.d/index.conf (name not important just end in .conf)
contents

Quote:

options snd-hda-intel enable=0

What this says to alsa....for card =0 disable it....so if it detects next card, it then gives it card=0 which will be analog.

1=enabled yes
0=disabled or no

BUT
#####
if you want analog and aplay shows PCH already card 0 your file changes to

Quote:

options snd-hda-intel enable=1,0

which says enable card=0 and disable card 1 for hdmi

Full reboot aplay should show only one device ....PCH

(2) I do not like KDE/plasma as it has another sound layer called phonon. You may need to check your phonon settings.
https://community.kde.org/Phonon

(3) then you can check your mixer levels and whether any output is muted.
Which mixer are you used to?

Puforoz · 01-27-2023, 12:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9

hi until you get a better reply...
I suggest to delete your current /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base.conf
Also delete any .asoundrc and /etc/asound.conf
and do a full reboot.

now look at your

Code:

aplay -l

output

You have mentioned you want PCH so I assume you want analog sound out not hdmi.
Please reply with what type of sound device out you wish to connect to.

Leaping ahead....if I am correct hdmi shows up as card 0 then use root powers to create file
/etc/modprobe.d/index.conf (name not important just end in .conf)
contents

What this says to alsa....for card =0 disable it....so if it detects next card, it then gives it card=0 which will be analog.

1=enabled yes
0=disabled or no

BUT
#####
if you want analog and aplay shows PCH already card 0 your file changes to

which says enable card=0 and disable card 1 for hdmi

Full reboot aplay should show only one device ....PCH

Thanks for the answer. I no longer have the specified files. I really need only a PCH to play sound, what happens with hdmi is not important.
Therefore I used

Code:

options snd-hda-intel enable=1,0

After reboot

Code:

$ aplay -l
aplay: device_list:274: no soundcards found...

And a minute later an audio card appeared, but without hdmi.

Code:

$ aplay -l
**** List of PLAYBACK Hardware Devices ****
card 0: PCH [HDA Intel PCH], device 0: ALC897 Analog [ALC897 Analog]
  Subdevices: 1/1
  Subdevice #0: subdevice #0

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9

(2) I do not like KDE/plasma as it has another sound layer called phonon. You may need to check your phonon settings.
https://community.kde.org/Phonon

For me, kde seemed the best option for home use. I will be glad to hear your opinion.
As I understand there is no Phonon in my system.

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9

(3) then you can check your mixer levels and whether any output is muted.
Which mixer are you used to?

Apparently PulseAudio but I'm not sure. How can this be checked correctly?

aus9 · 01-29-2023, 09:36 PM

Hidding Hdmi is good based on your answer.

Install pavucontrol
it has a GUI...run it and maximise it to see all tabs.
Set your output as the analog device then check your device is not muted then raise mixer levels

Puforoz · 01-30-2023, 02:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aus9

Hidding Hdmi is good based on your answer.

Install pavucontrol
it has a GUI...run it and maximise it to see all tabs.
Set your output as the analog device then check your device is not muted then raise mixer levels

Now hdmi is not displayed but the sound still appears after a while after boot. Turns out it didn't get any better.

I installed pavucontrol and after loading only a stub is shown ("dummy output"). No sound. Only then the port "Line Out" appears and the sound immediately appears.

P.S. I tried different versions in live mode. On debian 11 kde or gnome I have a similar problem at startup. But there is no such problem on debian 10.13.

aus9 · 01-30-2023, 07:20 PM

If you can, install a different destop. If that solves the mixer issue, it means kde still needs phonon setup

If hdmi is still appearing that might be pulseaudio interference