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Old 10-15-2009, 05:27 AM   #16
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Hi guys,
I removed the faulty line in my fstab file, replacing it with nothing.
I deleted the 70-persistent-cd.rules file (as instructed) and rebooted. The DVD-RW is still not recognized. However, I am able to boot using a live cd from the DVD-RW drive, again showing that there is nothing wrong with the drive itself. The problem is only evident when the Computer is booted into Ubuntu 9.04 (64) then the drive becomes invisible.
This is a copy of my 70-persistent-cd.rules file;
---------------------------------------------------------------

# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_cd_rules
# program, run by the cd-aliases-generator.rules rules file.
#
# You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single
# line, and set the $GENERATED variable.

# DVD-ROM_GDRH10N (pci-0000:00:12.0-scsi-1:0:0:0)
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:12.0-scsi-1:0:0:0", SYMLINK+="cdrom", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:12.0-scsi-1:0:0:0", SYMLINK+="dvd", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
---------------------------------------------------------------

As you can see Ubuntu 9.04 (64) is just not picking the drive up and recording it in the file.

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Old 10-15-2009, 05:34 AM   #17
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Hi guys,
I removed the faulty line in my fstab file, replacing it with nothing.
I deleted the 70-persistent-cd.rules file (as instructed) and rebooted. The DVD-RW is still not recognized. However, I am able to boot using a live cd from the DVD-RW drive, again showing that there is nothing wrong with the drive itself. The problem is only evident when the Computer is booted into Ubuntu 9.04 (64) then the drive becomes invisible.
This is a copy of my 70-persistent-cd.rules file;
---------------------------------------------------------------

# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_cd_rules
# program, run by the cd-aliases-generator.rules rules file.
#
# You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single
# line, and set the $GENERATED variable.

# DVD-ROM_GDRH10N (pci-0000:00:12.0-scsi-1:0:0:0)
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:12.0-scsi-1:0:0:0", SYMLINK+="cdrom", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:12.0-scsi-1:0:0:0", SYMLINK+="dvd", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
---------------------------------------------------------------

As you can see Ubuntu 9.04 (64) is just not picking the drive up and recording it in the file.

gael.
And carrying on from there, here is a copy of my fstab file now;

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
#
# Use 'vol_id --uuid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
# device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
# that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
#
# <file system> <mount point> <type> <options> <dump> <pass>
proc /proc proc defaults 0 0
# / was on /dev/sda5 during installation
UUID=7b97ab2c-9d9a-48ca-8179-a9e9ded21578 / ext3 relatime,errors=remount-ro 0 1
# swap was on /dev/sda6 during installation
UUID=a6d61985-7f20-4aa0-8ba9-2f2b3076260a none swap sw 0 0
/dev/scd0 /media/cdrom udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0
/dev/fd0 /media/floppy0 auto rw,user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0

I hope all this information helps ...
Thanks,
gael.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 07:22 AM   #18
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Could you check for me which devices are created by udev?

Your fstab contains a line /dev/scd0 - can you check if this exists, also if /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd exist (they should be symbolic links the real device)

Also, do you have a USB memory stick at all? If you plug that it, does it automatically get mounted on the desktop, or does nothing happen?

If nothing happens with a USB stick, it may be that you don't have a problem with the CD per se, but with the automounter.

To check this out as well, try putting the live cd into the drive after booting (and as you say, nothing will happen). then run the following command

Code:
mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt
Then cd into /mnt and see if it's the live cd

to eject the CD you will have to cd out of /mnt and run
Code:
umount /mnt
eject /dev/scd0
Try that, see how it goes.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 09:26 AM   #19
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Could you check for me which devices are created by udev?

Your fstab contains a line /dev/scd0 - can you check if this exists, also if /dev/cdrom and /dev/dvd exist (they should be symbolic links the real device)

Also, do you have a USB memory stick at all? If you plug that it, does it automatically get mounted on the desktop, or does nothing happen?

If nothing happens with a USB stick, it may be that you don't have a problem with the CD per se, but with the automounter.

To check this out as well, try putting the live cd into the drive after booting (and as you say, nothing will happen). then run the following command

Code:
mount -t iso9660 /dev/scd0 /mnt
Then cd into /mnt and see if it's the live cd

to eject the CD you will have to cd out of /mnt and run
Code:
umount /mnt
eject /dev/scd0
Try that, see how it goes.
Okay, I did as you suggested and the command told me that the drive was mounted, that is the DVDROM which I have no trouble. The PC has recognized this drive from my upgrade. However, the DVD-RW was not recognizes in the udev file (70-persistent-cd.rules) but now it is
Here is a copy of my file;

# This file was automatically generated by the /lib/udev/write_cd_rules
# program, run by the cd-aliases-generator.rules rules file.
#
# You can modify it, as long as you keep each rule on a single
# line, and set the $GENERATED variable.

# DVD-ROM_GDRH10N (pci-0000:00:12.0-scsi-1:0:0:0)
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:12.0-scsi-1:0:0:0", SYMLINK+="cdrom", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:12.0-scsi-1:0:0:0", SYMLINK+="dvd", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
# DVD_Writer_1040d (pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:1:0)
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:1:0", SYMLINK+="cdrom1", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:1:0", SYMLINK+="cdrw1", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:1:0", SYMLINK+="dvd1", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:1:0", SYMLINK+="dvdrw1", ENV{GENERATED}="1"

Although that the DVD-RW (DVD Writer 1040d) is there, it is still not operational. Perhaps my fstab file entry is incorrect?

/dev/hda0 /media/dvdrw udf,iso9660 user,noauto,exec,utf8 0 0

Is that what you would expect to see?

gael.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 12:28 PM   #20
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Right, for some reason I thought you only had a single drive.

OK. Please run the following commands and see what you get:

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dmesg | grep sr
This searches the kernel ring buffer for the text sr. If you have a modern SATA or PATA CD/DVD writer and if the kernel is loading the correct modules, you should get lines looking something like this:

Code:
[    2.533894] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[    2.534110] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
[    2.533894] sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[    2.534110] sr 0:0:1:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1
I've edited the lines somewhat from my output, yours will be slightly different (the timestemp, the description) but what is important is that it's using the sr driver. Don't worry that it says scsi CD-ROM.

Then within the /dev directory, I would expect to see the following:

Code:
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root           3 2009-10-04 08:50 cdrom -> sr0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root           3 2009-10-04 08:50 dvd -> sr0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root           3 2009-10-04 08:50 scd0 -> sr0
brw-rw----+ 1 root   cdrom    11,   0 2009-10-04 08:50 sr0
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root           3 2009-10-04 08:50 cdrom1 -> sr1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root           3 2009-10-04 08:50 cdrw1 -> sr1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root           3 2009-10-04 08:50 dvd1-> sr1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root           3 2009-10-04 08:50 dvdrw1 -> sr1
lrwxrwxrwx  1 root   root           3 2009-10-04 08:50 scd1 -> sr1
brw-rw----+ 1 root   cdrom    11,   0 2009-10-04 08:50 sr1
Now within your fstab file, I would not expect to see any entries for the cd-rom drives.

Your entry - /dev/hda0 - is most definately wrong and should be removed. The CD-ROM driver is no longer the old IDE CD-DROM driver (which would give you hda) but is the new ATA CD-ROM driver, which should give you sr1.

I would remove the enties for /dev/scd0 and /dev/hda0 - assuming that those are the entries that you have chosen for your DVD / DVDRW. Once doing that I would reboot and see if the automounting works.

When you put a disk in either drive, Ubuntu should automount it under /media.

If you need to specify the device for the DVD-writer (for dvd writer programs etc) then you should use the device /dev/dvdrw1, although strictly speaking any one of /dev/sr1, /dev/cdrom1, /dev/cdrw1, /dev/dvd1 would do.

If you feel you must have an entry within fstab for your DVD/DVD-RW, (which I do not recommend) then the devices that you should use are /dev/scd0 (or /dev/sr0, /dev/cdrom, /dev/dvd) and /dev/scd1 (or /dev/sr1, /dev/cdrom1, /dev/cdrw1, /dev/dvd1, /dev/dvdrw1, /dev/sr1)

With a bit of luck, that should get you further

Last edited by gzunk; 10-15-2009 at 12:30 PM.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 12:50 PM   #21
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Right, for some reason I thought you only had a single drive.

OK. Please run the following commands and see what you get:

Code:
dmesg | grep sr
This searches the kernel ring buffer for the text sr. If you have a modern SATA or PATA CD/DVD writer and if the kernel is loading the correct modules, you should get lines looking something like this:

Code:
[    2.533894] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[    2.534110] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
[    2.533894] sr1: scsi3-mmc drive: 24x/24x writer dvd-ram cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[    2.534110] sr 0:0:1:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr1
I've edited the lines somewhat from my output, yours will be slightly different (the timestemp, the description) but what is important is that it's using the sr driver. Don't worry that it says scsi CD-ROM.

I followed your instructions and the PC produced this entry ... hopefully this will tell you something.
gael.
[ 1.173595] Driver 'sr' needs updating - please use bus_type methods
[ 3.173458] sr0: scsi3-mmc drive: 48x/48x cd/rw xa/form2 cdda tray
[ 3.173530] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi CD-ROM sr0
[ 3.173560] sr 1:0:0:0: Attached scsi generic sg1 type 5
[ 21.084797] type=1505 audit(1255628200.546:2): operation="profile_load" name="/usr/share/gdm/guest-session/Xsession" name2="default" pid=2194
[ 21.126510] type=1505 audit(1255628200.586:5): operation="profile_load" name="/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action" name2="default" pid=2198
[ 21.126551] type=1505 audit(1255628200.586:6): operation="profile_load" name="/usr/lib/connman/scripts/dhclient-script" name2="default" pid=2198
[ 21.174331] type=1505 audit(1255628200.634:7): operation="profile_load" name="/usr/bin/freshclam" name2="default" pid=2203
[ 21.288174] type=1505 audit(1255628200.750:8): operation="profile_load" name="/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf" name2="default" pid=2207
[ 21.288351] type=1505 audit(1255628200.750:9): operation="profile_load" name="/usr/sbin/cupsd" name2="default" pid=2207
[ 21.315291] type=1505 audit(1255628200.774:10): operation="profile_load" name="/usr/sbin/tcpdump" name2="default" pid=2211
gael33@gael33-desktop:~$
 
Old 10-15-2009, 12:57 PM   #22
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[QUOTE=gzunk;3720535]Right, for some reason I thought you only had a single drive.

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Now within your fstab file, I would not expect to see any entries for the cd-rom drives.

Your entry - /dev/hda0 - is most definately wrong and should be removed. The CD-ROM driver is no longer the old IDE CD-DROM driver (which would give you hda) but is the new ATA CD-ROM driver, which should give you sr1.

I would remove the enties for /dev/scd0 and /dev/hda0 - assuming that those are the entries that you have chosen for your DVD / DVDRW. Once doing that I would reboot and see if the automounting works.
Are you saying that I should remove those fstab file entries completely?

gael.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 01:00 PM   #23
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Right, so one of the is using the sr driver, but what's the other one using...

Code:
# DVD-ROM_GDRH10N (pci-0000:00:12.0-scsi-1:0:0:0)
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:12.0-scsi-1:0:0:0", SYMLINK+="cdrom", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:12.0-scsi-1:0:0:0", SYMLINK+="dvd", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
# DVD_Writer_1040d (pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:1:0)
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:1:0", SYMLINK+="cdrom1", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:1:0", SYMLINK+="cdrw1", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:1:0", SYMLINK+="dvd1", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
ENV{ID_CDROM}=="?*", ENV{ID_PATH}=="pci-0000:00:14.1-scsi-0:0:1:0", SYMLINK+="dvdrw1", ENV{GENERATED}="1"
OK, your DVD-ROM (GDRH10N) should have the following files associated with it: /dev/dvd and /dev/cdrom. They should both be symbolic links to /dev/sr0

Now to find out what driver your DVD writer (1040d) is using. Can you do a:

Code:
ls -l /dev/cdrom1
And tell me what it's pointing to?

Quote:
Are you saying that I should remove those fstab file entries completely?
Yes I am saying that I would comment them out by putting # at the beginning, that way you can always put them back in if things don't work out.

Also, could you do a

Code:
ls -l /dev/sr*
And see if sr1 exists

Last edited by gzunk; 10-15-2009 at 01:03 PM.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 02:16 PM   #24
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OK, your DVD-ROM (GDRH10N) should have the following files associated with it: /dev/dvd and /dev/cdrom. They should both be symbolic links to /dev/sr0
Okay, all of this is a little confusing because I am unaware of the tech phraseology ... could we take it one step at a time please.
You talk of 'symbolic links', unfortunately I have no idea as to what they are. Where and how do I replace what is written into my system with the new figures and numbers that you have written above? Which files do they have to be written into?

(I cannot thank you enough for all the time you are giving, I am very grateful).

gael.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 02:23 PM   #25
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Now to find out what driver your DVD writer (1040d) is using. Can you do a:

Code:
ls -l /dev/cdrom1
And tell me what it's pointing to?
Is this the answer;

root@gael33-desktop:/home/gael33# ls -l /dev/cdrom1
ls: cannot access /dev/cdrom1: No such file or directory
root@gael33-desktop:/home/gael33#

I think there is a discrepancy as the required file does not exist.

gael.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 02:26 PM   #26
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[/CODE]


Also, could you do a

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ls -l /dev/sr*
And see if sr1 exists
Here's the answer I got back;

gael33@gael33-desktop:~$ sudo ls -l /dev/sr*
brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2009-10-15 19:36 /dev/sr0
gael33@gael33-desktop:~$

gael.
 
Old 10-15-2009, 02:53 PM   #27
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Mmm,

how about:

Code:
ls -l /dev/cd*
To see if you've got more than one.

A symbolic link in Unix is like a shortcut in Windows, only better. Whenever you see this in a listing, you know it's a symbolic link:

Code:
thomsona@barney:~$ ls -l /dev/cd*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-10-15 18:56 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-10-15 18:56 /dev/cdrw -> sr0
thomsona@barney:~$
The "l" at the start indicates that it's a link, and it tells you what it's pointing to as well - in this case, sr0

Now, if you have two DVD's plugged in, then I would expect udev (which is the part of Linux that automatically creates devices) to detect them and create the appropriate files within the /dev directory, including the symbolic links to make them easier to use.

What I mean by easier to use is that it's easier to remember /dev/dvd rather than /dev/sr0.

How have you got the DVD's plugged in? Are they both ATAPI/IDE devices (i.e. are plugged in via a ribbon cable to the motherboard) Are they SATA devices? (i.e. plugged in using the small SATA connector that you get) or are they USB devices?

To be honest, if you could send me the output of the following commands it would help in trying to track down the problems that you're having:

Code:
ls -l /dev
and

Code:
dmesg
i.e. type something like this:

Code:
ls -l /dev/ > ~/device.txt
and

Code:
dmesg > ~/dmesg.txt
Then attach the two files (device.txt and dmesg.txt) to the message (there's a button called "Manage Attachments" in the additional options when you're posting a reply)
 
Old 10-15-2009, 03:05 PM   #28
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Mmm,

how about:

Code:
ls -l /dev/cd*
To see if you've got more than one.

A symbolic link in Unix is like a shortcut in Windows, only better. Whenever you see this in a listing, you know it's a symbolic link:
gael33@gael33-desktop:~$ sudo ls -l /dev/cd*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-10-15 21:53 /dev/cdrom -> sr0

This drive is a SATA drive and is working normally.
gael
 
Old 10-15-2009, 03:08 PM   #29
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Mmm,


Code:
ls -l /dev
gael33@gael33-desktop:~$ sudo ls -l /dev/cd*
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-10-15 21:53 /dev/cdrom -> sr0
gael33@gael33-desktop:~$ ls -l /dev
total 0
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 4 2009-10-15 20:53 audio
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 20 2009-10-15 20:53 audio1
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 700 2009-10-15 20:53 block
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 60 2009-10-15 21:53 bus
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-10-15 21:53 cdrom -> sr0
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4340 2009-10-15 20:53 char
crw------- 1 root root 5, 1 2009-10-15 20:53 console
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 11 2009-10-15 21:53 core -> /proc/kcore
crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 60 2009-10-15 21:53 cpu_dma_latency
drwxr-xr-x 5 root root 100 2009-10-15 21:53 disk
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 60 2009-10-15 20:53 dri
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 3 2009-10-15 20:53 dsp
crw-rw----+ 1 root audio 14, 19 2009-10-15 20:53 dsp1
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 3 2009-10-15 21:53 dvd -> sr0
crw-rw---- 1 root root 10, 63 2009-10-15 21:53 ecryptfs
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 2009-10-15 21:53 fd -> /proc/self/fd
brw-rw----+ 1 root floppy 2, 0 2009-10-15 21:53 fd0
crw-rw-rw- 1 root root 1, 7 2009-10-15 21:53 full
crw-rw-rw-+ 1 root fuse 10, 229 2009-10-15 21:53 fuse
crw-rw---- 1 root root 251, 0 2009-10-15 20:53 hidraw0
crw-rw---- 1 root root 251, 1 2009-10-15 20:53 hidraw1
 
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Mmm,


Code:
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[ 0.440223] pci 0000:00:14.1: reg 14 io port: [0xfc00-0xfc03]
[ 0.440229] pci 0000:00:14.1: reg 18 io port: [0xfb00-0xfb07]
[ 0.440236] pci 0000:00:14.1: reg 1c io port: [0xfa00-0xfa03]
[ 0.440243] pci 0000:00:14.1: reg 20 io port: [0xf900-0xf90f]
[ 0.440297] pci 0000:00:14.2: reg 10 64bit mmio: [0xfe020000-0xfe023fff]
[ 0.440333] pci 0000:00:14.2: PME# supported from D0 D3hot D3cold
[ 0.440337] pci 0000:00:14.2: PME# disabled
[ 0.440496] pci 0000:01:05.0: reg 10 32bit mmio: [0xd8000000-0xdfffffff]
[ 0.440499] pci 0000:01:05.0: reg 14 io port: [0xee00-0xeeff]
[ 0.440503] pci 0000:01:05.0: reg 18 32bit mmio: [0xfdef0000-0xfdefffff]
[ 0.440510] pci 0000:01:05.0: reg 30 32bit mmio: [0x000000-0x01ffff]
[ 0.440515] pci 0000:01:05.0: supports D1 D2
[ 0.440527] pci 0000:00:01.0: bridge io port: [0xe000-0xefff]
[ 0.440529] pci 0000:00:01.0: bridge 32bit mmio: [0xfde00000-0xfdefffff]
[ 0.440532] pci 0000:00:01.0: bridge 64bit mmio pref: [0xd8000000-0xdfffffff]
[ 0.440588] pci 0000:02:06.0: reg 10 io port: [0xde00-0xdeff]
[ 0.440596] pci 0000:02:06.0: reg 14 32bit mmio: [0xfddff000-0xfddff0ff]
[ 0.440642] pci 0000:02:06.0: supports D1 D2
[ 0.440644] pci 0000:02:06.0: PME# supported from D1 D2 D3hot D3cold
[ 0.440648] pci 0000:02:06.0: PME# disabled
[ 0.440699] pci 0000:00:14.4: transparent bridge
[ 0.440703] pci 0000:00:14.4: bridge io port: [0xd000-0xdfff]
[ 0.440707] pci 0000:00:14.4: bridge 32bit mmio: [0xfdd00000-0xfddfffff]
[ 0.440711] pci 0000:00:14.4: bridge 32bit mmio pref: [0xfdf00000-0xfdffffff]
[ 0.440721] bus 00 -> node 0
 
  


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