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hunternet93 12-09-2009 05:58 PM

Debian can't find my sound card!
I'm running Debian Lenny on an HP Pavilion 513n, and Debian can't find the sound card, period. I've searched but did not find a solution. Alsamixer returns:


alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory

00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE/PE DRAM Controller/Host-Hub Interface (rev 03)
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82845G/GL[Brookdale-G]/GE Chipset Integrated Graphics Device (rev 03)
00:1d.0 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #1 (rev 02)
00:1d.1 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #2 (rev 02)
00:1d.2 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) USB UHCI Controller #3 (rev 02)
00:1d.7 USB Controller: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-M) USB2 EHCI Controller (rev 02)
00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev 82)
00:1f.0 ISA bridge: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL (ICH4/ICH4-L) LPC Interface Bridge (rev 02)
00:1f.1 IDE interface: Intel Corporation 82801DB (ICH4) IDE Controller (rev 02)
00:1f.3 SMBus: Intel Corporation 82801DB/DBL/DBM (ICH4/ICH4-L/ICH4-M) SMBus Controller (rev 02)
01:0d.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8139/8139C/8139C+ (rev 10)

As you can see, it does not list my sound card...

lsmod's output: (the snd_* modules I modprobed myself, they were not loaded at boot.)

snd_atiixp            14060  0
snd_als300              7780  0
snd_trident            32804  0
gameport              10700  1 snd_trident
snd_ac97_codec        88452  3 snd_atiixp,snd_als300,snd_trident
ac97_bus                1728  1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm                62660  4 snd_atiixp,snd_als300,snd_trident,snd_ac97_codec
snd_page_alloc          7816  3 snd_atiixp,snd_trident,snd_pcm
snd_util_mem            4032  1 snd_trident
snd_mpu401_uart        6368  1 snd_trident
snd_seq_midi            5728  0
snd_seq_midi_event      6432  1 snd_seq_midi
snd_rawmidi            18496  2 snd_mpu401_uart,snd_seq_midi
snd_seq                41456  2 snd_seq_midi,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_timer              17800  2 snd_pcm,snd_seq
snd_seq_device          6380  3 snd_seq_midi,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq
snd                    45636  10 snd_atiixp,snd_als300,snd_trident,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_mpu401_uart,snd_rawmidi,snd_seq,snd_timer,snd_seq_device
soundcore              6368  1 snd
i915                  25312  2
drm                    65320  3 i915
ppdev                  6468  0
lp                      8164  0
ipv6                  235396  14
speedstep_lib          4516  0
cpufreq_stats          3776  0
cpufreq_conservative    5960  0
cpufreq_userspace      3172  0
cpufreq_ondemand        6476  0
freq_table              4224  2 cpufreq_stats,cpufreq_ondemand
cpufreq_powersave      1856  0
loop                  12748  0
parport_pc            22500  1
parport                30988  3 ppdev,lp,parport_pc
i2c_i801                7920  0
i2c_core              19828  1 i2c_i801
pcspkr                  2432  0
rng_core                3940  0
shpchp                25528  0
pci_hotplug            23460  1 shpchp
button                  6096  0
intel_agp              22524  1
agpgart                28808  3 drm,intel_agp
evdev                  8000  3
ext3                  105576  2
jbd                    39476  1 ext3
mbcache                7108  1 ext3
ide_disk              10496  4
ide_cd_mod            27684  0
cdrom                  30176  1 ide_cd_mod
ata_generic            4676  0
libata                140448  1 ata_generic
scsi_mod              129548  1 libata
dock                    8304  1 libata
ide_pci_generic        3908  0 [permanent]
8139too                20384  0
usbhid                35904  0
hid                    33184  1 usbhid
ff_memless              4392  1 usbhid
floppy                47716  0
8139cp                16800  0
mii                    4896  2 8139too,8139cp
piix                    6568  0 [permanent]
ide_core              96168  4 ide_disk,ide_cd_mod,ide_pci_generic,piix
ehci_hcd              28428  0
uhci_hcd              18672  0
usbcore              118192  4 usbhid,ehci_hcd,uhci_hcd
thermal                15228  0
processor              32576  1 thermal
fan                    4196  0
thermal_sys            10856  3 thermal,processor,fan

Any help with this would be appriciated, no sound is no fun. :)

scheidel21 12-10-2009 07:33 AM

If the computer is not seeing it in lspci there is a real big issue becuase no matter what you do, you won't see iti n the OS, try reseating the card, maybe changing the slot the card is in. If it is integrated I don't know what to suggest. Maybe if it is integrated we should look at what chipset you have.

the trooper 12-10-2009 08:15 AM

I think Lenny still uses alsaconf,so try running alsaconf as root.
See if that picks up the card for you.
Other than that can you try booting a live cd like Knoppix,and try lspci again.See if Knoppix picks up the card.

hunternet93 12-10-2009 08:39 AM

Alsaconf said it found and configured an ISA sound card, but I still get the same results: no sound or detected sound card. One thing I could do to narrow it down would be to take the computer apart (again) and try to figure out if the soundcard (it's on-motherboard) is PCI or ISA. I would try Knoppix but as it only has 256mb of RAM right now, I doubt it would survive :eek:. I have tried an AntiX live cd, and got the exact same problem. If I can find it, I have a Windows 98 CD to test and see if it can find it. If it can't, I can always try updating the BIOS. Thanks for the help!
EDIT: Christmas is coming, maybe I'll get a decent PCI sound card. ;)

the trooper 12-10-2009 08:48 AM

Do you have the manual that came with the computer?.
That should give you details of the sound hardware.
Also you should be ok with Knoppix with 256mb of ram the site says the minimum for a gui is 120mb:

The reason i suggest Knoppix is because it's known for good hardware detection.
We need to know what hardware you have before we can help furhter.

hunternet93 12-10-2009 09:59 AM

I'm dowloading knoppix now. I just assumed that it needed 512+ MB of memory , thanks for pointing out that is doesn't. Hopefully it will detect my sound card. I don't have a manual, I bought is used and as-is on eBay. A quick seach did not reveal any in-depth tech specs. I had to take it apart and reseat the proccesor to get it to run, so its possible that the sound card chip is damaged (but I doubt it). Is there a command to list ISA devices, similar to lspci?

scheidel21 12-10-2009 12:25 PM

you could try downloading hwinfo that should give you full listing of everything ISA, PCI, RAM, Processor, etc... However, you might want to look into just getting a used sound card like a SB16 and out that in the machine.

hunternet93 12-11-2009 09:49 AM

I'm probably getting a new sound card for Christmas :cool: so I don't really care about the onboard sound anymore. I didin't try Knoppix in the end, I can use another computer for sound-related stuff for now. Thanks for helping!

the trooper 12-11-2009 10:00 AM

Ok,the following link may help when choosing a soundcard:

Also don't for get to check the HCL here at LQ.

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