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Old 01-02-2005, 07:11 PM   #1
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Comp instantly turns off after 1 sec after new hdd install


so i got a new 200GB drive today and i installed it, it booted fine and just after i finished formatting the sway partition on the new drive my comp just turned off. i thought that was weird so i wen to hit the power button to get it back on and nothing happened, i checked the cables cut the power for a moment and then the power button worked but then a second later it went off after the fans spinned up

after some testing i found that the power button now only works after i cut the power and wait for the LED on the motherboard to go out and then turn the power back on, and to get the computer to actually turn on i have to unplug the power from one of the driver (i have an 80GB SATA and a 200GB 133/ATA) and this is no good as i was hoping to copy the system on the 80GB to the 200GB and then work from there

now from what i know it is probably that i have too small of a power supply (400W) and i hope not because i just ordered a DVD +/- R/RW and geforce 6600 GT so that would be bad

so does anyone have any other ideas because i want to be absolutely sure its the power supply and not some stupid prob i have

also the system was very stable and i had no problems for the last year (other then the stupid lilo stuff that i was hoping to fix with the new drive!!!!!!)

here are the specs

200GB 133/ATA drive (i had a 20GB 66/ATA there when it was working)
80GB SATA drive
DVD rom DRIVE
52x cd burner
geforce fx 5200 (128MB RAM)
Floppy
3 GHZ p4 overclocked to 3.3 or 3.2
ASUS p4c800-e dlx motherboard
400W power supply (says http://startech.com/ on it )

now where did my flashlight go......

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found my flashlight and used it to realize that i had a typo (wrong url for power supply))
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Old 01-03-2005, 02:57 PM   #2
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anyone?
 
Old 01-03-2005, 03:36 PM   #3
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Originally posted by edman007
anyone?
No idea... but I would suggest you try the basic Mr. Fixit thing and put the old drive back and see if the problem goes away. Let us know.

If it goes away, it means there is a problem associated with the drive.

If it doesn't go away, it could mean either of two things.

1) There is a problem that has developed that is not related to the new drive.

2) Maybe more likely, it is something that has broken since (as a result of) the changing the drive.

If you are concerened about the power supply, and the fault persists, can you get a loan of a spare one to try if after restoring the original HDD it is still broken?
 
Old 01-03-2005, 04:04 PM   #4
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hmmm... seems to work fine after setting it back to normal, i guess its time to start finding cash for a new power supply
 
Old 01-03-2005, 04:11 PM   #5
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Yup,
That's a power supply problem... here's a hint, if you are spending anything less then $40 bucks on a new one... it's too cheap.
 
Old 01-03-2005, 04:17 PM   #6
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ok, this time i looked around and people say http://pcpowerandcooling.com/ is good, the one i have now was $30 or $40 from newegg

i think i'm going to get the 470W one from them or the 510W if i can find the cash
 
Old 01-03-2005, 05:14 PM   #7
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That doesn't sound like a power supply problem to me. A 400W unit should be plenty to run a system with 2 hard drives.

Does your BIOS support a 200GB hard drive? Try plugging a smaller one in its place and see if the machine boots up. If it does, then the problem isn't the power supply, it's the hard drive.
 
Old 01-03-2005, 05:28 PM   #8
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Imanerd those were my thoughts also
 
Old 01-03-2005, 05:43 PM   #9
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its a cheap power supply and after looking at power supply stuff i'm pretty sure it is 400W when in the freezer, more like 200-300W or so in real life

as for the BOIS stuff, it shuts off before the bios can perform any test on the drives, its a high end asus that has works with the 200GB drives, and it boots fine with just the 200GB and no other drive (but i need both)
 
Old 01-03-2005, 06:45 PM   #10
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I likewise was a bit doubtful that this would really be a PSU problem, and initially thought that the jumpers on the new drive were not set correctly, but that would not cause the power to turn off. As Imanerd already indicated, 400W should be sufficient for a rig with the specs you listed. However, if you're using a no-name generic then it's possible that they are being, uh, "optimistic" in terms of their true power ratings, and since there doesn't seem to be any other factor that would cause an instant shutdown, then perhaps the power unit is the problem.

Just as an editorial comment, and perhaps somewhat OT, I would definitely caution against using a cheap PSU, since it can potentially be a pretty risky move. (If it fails, it can also take your mobo, hard disks, etc, down with it.) Why take the risk? I'd say go with a quality brand (such as Antec). Good luck with it either way -- J.W.
 
Old 01-03-2005, 07:19 PM   #11
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agreed J.W. - jumpers a distinct possibility for failure (except for the shutdown).

Since I switched MO to plug-in IDE drive racks, I've reorganised all of them for master status so you can boot without worries... on some machines it needs a but of ribbon cable rearranging. I hate cable detect lol.
 
Old 01-03-2005, 08:15 PM   #12
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nope definitely the PSU, i just took the perfectly working system, and plugged in the power for the 200GB drive with no other wire to the HDD and when i booted it went off in under a second and not touching anything, then changed it back and it worked
 
  


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