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Old 02-21-2005, 06:57 PM   #1
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Canon bjc-2000


My canon printer (parallel port) responds to CUPS printing, but doesn't really work the way it should:

1) Printing is excrutiantingly slow (about 2 minutes per page)
2) Draft quality is illegible
3) Cancelling a printing process (using Print Notifier 0.7 in FC3/Gnome) results in the printer locking up until it is allowed to continue printing anyway.

Now I've read some about printing under linux/unix and I've seen this particular printer in the HCL without any further information, but I'd like to know a little more.

Is there any way I can improve my printer's performance?
Is there another protocol (not CUPS) that i might try?
Is there another application I can use to interrupt and delete unwanted printing spools?
 
Old 02-22-2005, 12:24 AM   #2
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are you using
cannon bjc 2000 CUPS+Gimp-Print ?
i have Gimp-Print v4.2.7 and CUPS
and have used other versions and it works OK
certainly not 2 minutes a page -- that is weird yes ?
for me it's basically the same as it was with wndows only now it prints all the way to the edge of the paper
the printing is kind of light these days but certainly readable
the print server i think doesn't really matter
but you can try lprng
stopping is most likely a bug in the program Print Notifier but not sure given your other troubles
even on windows and cannon's own driver it's slow to stop and has to finish the stuff already sent down the pipe before it can stop

it might matter what version of ghostscritp you are using and what ghostscritp fonts you are using
i think esp-ghostsscript should be compiled with --without-gimp-print so cups uses it from the CUPS raster driver end ?? Linux pronting is soooooooo confusing when you get in the middle of it.

edit: KDE has a good print manager tool

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Old 02-22-2005, 01:24 PM   #3
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Originally posted by foo_bar_foo
are you using
cannon bjc 2000 CUPS+Gimp-Print ?
i have Gimp-Print v4.2.7 and CUPS
and have used other versions and it works OK
certainly not 2 minutes a page -- that is weird yes ?
Really I've only tried to print from OpenOffice.org, but during setup of FC3, the printer was recognised by CUPS.
Did a yum install for gimp-print, but not sure how to make it work together with cups (or make it work any other way)

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even on windows and cannon's own driver it's slow to stop and has to finish the stuff already sent down the pipe before it can stop
Yes, but not three whole pages!! Can I maybe access the printspools manually and delete them?

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it might matter what version of ghostscritp you are using and what ghostscritp fonts you are using
i think esp-ghostsscript should be compiled with --without-gimp-print so cups uses it from the CUPS raster driver end ?? Linux pronting is soooooooo confusing when you get in the middle of it.
Quote:

I haven't a clue and wouldn't know how to find out. Could you show me the way?

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edit: KDE has a good print manager tool [/B]
I'm using Gnome, but that's not a problem. Do you know the name?
 
Old 02-22-2005, 10:24 PM   #4
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oh -- 3 pages -- never mind

do this open a browser and type or copy in (or just click on this)
http://127.0.0.1:631/

CUPS will respond to this and give you its config/controll page
use this for now instead of those gui tools
you can click on "Manage Jobs" there !
and you have direct access to CUPS not through another tool
click on Manage printers if it asks for username password use "root"
what does it say there about you printer ?
if you want you can create another version of the same printer so you don't mess up what you have. (like it's so great)
at the bottom click "add printer"
(if there is no "add printer" button try another browser)
give it a name that is different from the original setup and write it down (i'll use "bjc2" as an example)
or you can choose to just redo the original with the modify printer or configure printer button
location and descrition are meaningless so put whatever you want
for device choose
paralell port #1 (Canon BJC-2000)
for make cannon
then for driver
Cannon BJC-2000 CUPS+Gimp-Printvx.x.x (en)

now try it
you can push print test page from the manage printer page
or easier and uses less ink
make a file test.txt
and in that directory
lp -d bjc2 test.txt
if you didn't make a new printer just
lp test.txt

if it works better you can delete the original one and make that one the default printer

the kde tools are "kjobviewer" and "kcmshell printmgr"

hope this helps
if you install new drivers they won't show up in the cups config until you restart cups

edit: if it doesn't work just write back seems lke i vaguely remember some junk in the cups config file

Last edited by foo_bar_foo; 02-22-2005 at 10:34 PM.
 
Old 02-24-2005, 05:35 PM   #5
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do this open a browser and type or copy in (or just click on this)
http://127.0.0.1:631/
This is absolutely brilliant! Are there any other 'easter eggs' like this in the system?

What's the CUPS pssword? Is it the same as root's?

Last edited by linmix; 02-24-2005 at 05:37 PM.
 
Old 03-09-2005, 05:31 PM   #6
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Tried to delete a job by accessing the printer spool through http://127.0.0.1:631/ and got the following error message:

Jobs
Error:
client-error-forbidden

Now what? Does this mean I simply cannot access the spool or would this be because the information had already been sent to the printer (only half a page)?
 
Old 09-01-2005, 04:38 PM   #7
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still at the same stage.. printing is slow and cannot be interrupted,that is the speool cannot be emtied halfway through a printing process, but hey, it works. However, printing is very light and it isn't the ink! Does anyone know what to change in which file to make the printer use more ink?
 
Old 11-21-2005, 02:09 AM   #8
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I have a Canon BJ S500 printer and the computer recognizes it cups Recognizes it but when I get to the driver page my driver is not there where would I go to find the driver?
 
Old 11-21-2005, 03:20 AM   #9
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download.com... ok bo?
 
Old 11-21-2005, 03:43 AM   #10
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my driver wasn't there but I went to a site and made a .ppd file and loaded it. Still cant get it to print though even though it is recognized with the GUI and the CUPS admin page. But when I turn it off and then back on I get the whole this printer is not recognized choose a model and driver. Though the model and driver windows are both empty. What can I do gimp-print is installed with CUPS support. I am using FC3 if that matters. Usually I work in KDE but I can navigate through Gnome.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 03:54 AM   #11
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ok now I got it all working to recognize the printer with the generic Canon BJ S500 driver and Kadzu configured it. but I got an error message

lpr:error -unable to print file: client-error-not-found
 
Old 11-21-2005, 04:08 AM   #12
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Gah.... I think I messed up 127.0.0.1:631/admin cause my connection to it is refused now. It happened as I was deleting my old tries to get the printer to work. How can I get it back? or did I really mess up.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 04:44 AM   #13
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Everything is ok. I rebooted twice and now it all works fine. All this information helped me a lot. Especially working in the 127.0.0.1:631/admin page. Thankyou all. I think i just needed to clean out all me previous tries and make sure that the correct printer was selected. Also I used the page to delete all the previous info waiting to be printed which allowed me finally set as default the correct printer and default. Thankyou all.
 
Old 11-21-2005, 04:49 PM   #14
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I picked up a trial copy of TurboPrint and boy does that work! It installed easily enough and once I selected my printer from the list tha test page came out in no time and with much better quality that anything I'd had with linux before on this printer - I'd say the quality is the same as under windows.

It's a bit expensive though at 30 ...
 
Old 11-28-2005, 05:39 AM   #15
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Sorry to bother everyone again with this, but well I disconnected my printer to move my pc around and well now it doesnt work. Cups recognizes it and then when I try and print the test page I am not allowed to connect to the 127.0.0.1:631 anymore. I have tried everything before even deleting the old configuration and install it again but nothing. Can I access Kadzu configuration tool from a terminal?
 
  


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