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Old 10-21-2012, 10:35 PM   #61
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So PCI Express 3.0 is a good choice now, so that I can buy a new more powerful VGA card in the future.

About mobo,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...l-Motherboards
Is UEFI Bios board better?
ASUS P8Z77-V LK and ASUS P8Z77-V LX
are just a bit difference in price (10 buck),
shall I go for UEFI?
 
Old 10-21-2012, 11:40 PM   #62
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Let's say I do not want to think about Hackintosh, AMD CPU is my option.

Should I go for 8 core CPU?

AMD FX8150 is just a bit more expensive than Core i5 3570K.

If I want to buy a separate VGA card for the machine, will not use built-in VGA,
which CPU shall I go for it, so that at least in 5 years time, I still can play advanced games?

Based on the data here,
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_look...0K+%40+3.40GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/overclocked_cpus.html

FX8150 is a bit better.

Anyone can answer me?
Why AMD 8-core is losing to Intel 4-core?

 
Old 10-22-2012, 12:03 AM   #63
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I want to play BATTLEFIELD 3.
 
Old 10-22-2012, 01:15 AM   #64
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If I choose this configuration:

1. core i5 3750K = RM690
2. VGA card Sapphire HD7870 2GB 256Bit = RM880
3. Mobo GA-Z77X-D3H = RM500
4. RAM 8GB = RM 125
5. Casing, just change power supply to 600Watt = RM 250

Is this system ok for almost all applications?
IMO buying cheap power supplies is asking for trouble. If you are even thinking about overclocking, a 600watt 'yum cha' power supply is insane.

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So PCI Express 3.0 is a good choice now, so that I can buy a new more powerful VGA card in the future.
PCIe 2.0 vs PCIe 3.0 makes no real difference for gaming. PCIe 3.0 cards will run in 2.0 slots.

PCIe 3.0 isnt a bad thing to have, but its not going to make any big difference short or long term.

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About mobo,
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...l-Motherboards
Is UEFI Bios board better?
ASUS P8Z77-V LK and ASUS P8Z77-V LX
are just a bit difference in price (10 buck),
shall I go for UEFI?
http://hardforum.com/showthread.php?t=1697854

Post #3.

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Anyone can answer me?
Why AMD 8-core is losing to Intel 4-core?
I've answered that before. I've also asked you not to use those silly colour posts when you werer tigerlinux.

The question I'm asking myself is 'what is the point to replying to future_computer'? It doesnt seem to be worth the time and effort.
 
Old 10-22-2012, 01:31 AM   #65
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More cores more brains to think, right?
 
Old 10-22-2012, 01:32 AM   #66
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Yes, ASUS P8Z77-V is better,

Onboard LAN
LAN Chipset
Intel 82579V
Max LAN Speed
10/100/1000Mbps

I like the
Wireless LAN
WiFi IEEE 802.11b/g/n

I do not need external wifi dongle etc.
 
Old 10-22-2012, 02:14 AM   #67
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I learn hackintosh from Americans.
http://tonymacx86.blogspot.com/search/label/CustoMac

We, Asians, do learn a lot of things from Americans,
one of them is to hack software licence.
 
Old 10-22-2012, 03:11 AM   #68
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Find a mobo that has DSDT,
things get easier to install MAC OS X.
like this board
http://www.asus.com/Motherboards/Int...55/P8Z77V_PRO/
 
Old 10-22-2012, 05:16 AM   #69
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OK, now we got some things from you:
1. You don't bother to read and to try to understand the answers you were given.
2. You are proud of being a thief and insult your whole continent with assuming they are all the same as you.
3. You are not understanding that you need to buy powerful hardware to play games that demand powerful hardware.

You want to play Battlefield 3? Then go to the shop, buy a computer that can handle the load of Battlefield 3 and play it. What is the point of bothering us with that?
Please don't fall back into your old Tigerlinux style of posting.

To your question, that already was answered before: The AMD 8-cores are not as fast as the Intel 4-cores for a simple reason: AMD is lying to you, those CPUs aren't 8-cores but 4-modules. If you want to learn more about that go to Wikipedia and learn about AMD's Bulldozer architecture, before coming back and posting questions about that.

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Old 10-22-2012, 05:36 AM   #70
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AMD is lying to you, those CPUs aren't 8-cores but 4-modules.
I am here sincerely discussing with people,
how do you know I did not learn?

I read your replies and google for answers, I know more now.


How can AMD cheat customers?
Its cpus actually not bad,
AMD first introduced the Athlon 64bit CPU while Intel still sticked to 32bit,
Intel was wrong at that time, until after they had realized this, they started to make 64bit cpus.
 
Old 10-22-2012, 05:37 AM   #71
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You want to play Battlefield 3? Then go to the shop, buy a computer that can handle the load of Battlefield 3 and play it. What is the point of bothering us with that?
Our market here is not like you, nobody sells PC based on the requirements of a game.

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2. You are proud of being a thief and insult your whole continent with assuming they are all the same as you.
You're wrong, we learn from you.
you are teacher, I am student.
 
Old 10-22-2012, 05:50 AM   #72
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I am here sincerely discussing with people,
how do you know I did not learn?
Because you are here to as questions again although you were asked to read the related articles on Wikipedia first. Because we can see your behavior, refusal to learn from the people you ask in the first place, in your thread about overclocking.

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How can AMD cheat customers?
Its cpus actually not bad,
AMD first introduced the Athlon 64bit CPU while Intel still sticked to 32bit,
Intel was wrong at that time, until after they had realized this, they started to make 64bit cpus.
And this is related to AMD's FX CPUs in which way?

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Our market here is not like you, nobody sells PC based on the requirements of a game.
The Internet is full of advices which components you need to play that game.
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You're wrong, we learn from you.
you are teacher, I am student.
May I quote you again?
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We, Asians, do learn a lot of things from Americans,
one of them is to hack software licence.
Hacking software licenses, as you call it, is nothing than a different name for stealing the work of other people. You seem to be proud to be a thief and, worse, you think that every other Asian is also a thief and proud of it.
 
Old 10-22-2012, 05:55 AM   #73
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Bulldozer has what AMD calls "Modules. Each module features two integer cores and a shared floating point core. So the FX-8150 has 4 modules which consist of 8 integer cores, each pair of integer cores shares 1 floating point core.

The problem that 8 core processors have is that there are only a few applications which can utilize that many cores, the same issue that affects the i7 and its multithreading capability.

And contrary to popular belief, Bulldozer is a decent processor. You can't just look at numbers when looking at benchmarks, you also have to pay attention to the test setup. There are a number of things that Bulldozer does better than the Intel cpus and vice versa. Is the Intel i5/i7 faster than the AMD FX cpus? Generally, yes, but only in benchmarks. In most cases you are not going to be able to tell the difference between the two in a real world setting. People like to say that FX sucks at gaming and that the i5/i7 obliterate and wipe the floor with the FX. However, this is not true. The difference is usually a few frames per second. For example, in this review the FX is only a few FPS less than even the Ivy Bridge: http://www.legitreviews.com/article/1914/10/

Also take a look at these links as well:
http://www.techspot.com/review/452 [...] page8.html

http://www.madshrimps.be/articles/ [...] z1uCYsktim
Read this
 
Old 10-22-2012, 06:01 AM   #74
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Hacking software licenses, as you call it, is nothing than a different name for stealing the work of other people. You seem to be proud to be a thief and, worse, you think that every other Asian is also a thief and proud of it.
You can google for cracks,
all from the West,
why are you not critisizing yourselves?

US is stealing money from the whole world by printing more money, the so called QE1/2/3,
and the us dollar is not backed up by gold,
it is just paper backed up by Bullets and nuclear bombs.
 
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You can google for cracks,
all from the West,
why are you not critisizing yourselves?
I criticize all people that think stealing is a good idea, regardless from which part of the world they are. Remember that you are the one that was stating that you are learning hacking licenses from Americans (you realize that there are more countries than the US in the western world?) and that it is something that all Asians are good in. So you yourself called yourself a thief and this is not the first time you admitted that you don't care about software licenses, this happened in several of your threads.

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US is stealing money from the whole world by printing more money, the so called QE1/2/3,
and the us dollar is not backed up by gold,
it is just paper backed up by Bullets and nuclear bombs.
How is this related to you not respecting software licenses and accusing all Asians to do the same?

I send you an e-mail, please read that e-mail before posting back.
 
  


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