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Old 10-21-2012, 11:10 AM   #46
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A good graphics card is really expensive, if I don't want to play games, then things will be much more simple
 
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Please make things clear now:
1) What are the things you need to do with the computer? Does it have to be a gaming system? Do you need a lot of CPU power or a lot of RAM? Where exactly is your current system limiting you?
2) What is the maximum amount of money you can spend for the new computer? Are there current parts, like the harddisk or the video-card, that can be reused, at least temporary, so that you can maybe go step by step with upgrading the system?

It does make no sense and is a waste of time (for you and for us) to discuss which CPU would be best for you if you can't afford the CPU we are discussing about.
 
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Please make things clear now:
1) What are the things you need to do with the computer? Does it have to be a gaming system? Do you need a lot of CPU power or a lot of RAM? Where exactly is your current system limiting you?
2) What is the maximum amount of money you can spend for the new computer? Are there current parts, like the harddisk or the video-card, that can be reused, at least temporary, so that you can maybe go step by step with upgrading the system?

It does make no sense and is a waste of time (for you and for us) to discuss which CPU would be best for you if you can't afford the CPU we are discussing about.
1. I have an old Athlon 64 4800+, 2GB DDR2 Ram, Sata I HDD, Ati Radeon HD 3400. I want to construct a gaming PC, make it not so dull, not only for internet. I want fast CPU + VGA card. I want it to run Windows, Linux, and probably Hackintosh too.

2. I will buy new HDD, Sata III, it is not expensive now. I have a 20" LED monitor, but I would like 24". What concerns me is the VGA card's price, too costly. My budget is about 700 USD.
 
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If you want to have a decent gaming setup than you have to buy at least a mid-range card, but better a card from the performance segment, like the Geforce GTX660. Good things cost money, no way around it.
Seeing your current setup, you most likely will also need a better PSU to support such a card (600-700W from a good brand, don't buy a cheapo PSU, you will regret it if you do).
With 700USD you should get a somewhat good gaming setup, just don't buy it all at once (do you really need a new monitor now or can that wait until you have more money, or maybe you wait with buying a new HDD, and so on).
 
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I got only 1 Sata 1.5Gb/s speed, 1TB, it is used for backup data.
I got 2 IDE HDDs, phased out already, so I won't use them for my new system.
The only things I can re-use are keyboard, mouse, DVDROM, cheap stuff .

My old PC will be given to my kids playing education games.

So, I need a mobo, CPU, VGA card, Sata 3 HDD, DDR3 Ram, ATX casing with 600W, 2.1 Speaker system.
I think 1000 USD is the budget.
Pretty expensive to me.
 
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Performance isn't cheap. If you want to have a fast system you have to pay for it. Simply as that.
 
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Maybe I will buy VGA cards later, start with the core i5 3570K embedded Intel HD 4000,
how how does it perform with Crisis 3?
 
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How can we know?
Crysis 3 will be released next year, but based on experience with Crysis and Crysis 2 I would guess that it will not run at all on that videochip and if it does than only with low quality settings in very low resolution.
This videochip is simply not made for gaming.
 
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How about for car Racing games?
 
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Depends on the game.
In general, the integrated Intel video hardware is meant for desktop use, not for gaming. It will run casual and older games, like WoW, but it will most likely not run current AAA games and if it will run those games it will be in low-quality/low-resolution settings.
 
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Let's say I do not want to think about Hackintosh, AMD CPU is my option.

Should I go for 8 core CPU?

AMD FX8150 is just a bit more expensive than Core i5 3570K.

If I want to buy a separate VGA card for the machine, will not use built-in VGA,
which CPU shall I go for it, so that at least in 5 years time, I still can play advanced games?

Based on the data here,
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu_look...0K+%40+3.40GHz
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/overclocked_cpus.html

FX8150 is a bit better.

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Old 10-21-2012, 09:22 PM   #57
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My current CPU rating is very low, shame!
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?...+4800%2B&id=82
 
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No current CPU will play advanced games fine in 5 years. This is just unrealistic.
 
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Therefore need to prepare for overclocking and choose PCI 3.0 mobo.
 
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Nonsense. Buy a new system in five years. Not even an overclocked CPu will have the power to run AAA games in five years with high quality settings/resolutions.
Also don't forget that the most games also heavily depend on the videocard and overclocking the CPU will bring anything if the videocard is not sufficient.
May be you should begin to realize that if you want a powerful system you have to buy one.
Overclocking will not make your system magically become as powerful as a new one, something you should already know, otherwise you would just overclock your current system (assuming that you would have the knowledge).
 
  


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