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Old 05-01-2006, 05:55 PM   #16
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Another thing to consider. Most MP3 companies are not going to support true Drag and Drop because of financial/legal issues. Apple won't make a product that supports this because they would be shooting iTunes in the foot. iRiver moved away from supporting this to get the "Windows Play for Sure" designation. If you want to produce an MP3 player AND provide legal music downloads, you can't have a product that easily shares those downloads with others. The music industry would simply quit allowing the downloads.
Yeah - that about sums it up. I just deleted everything I typed since it amounted to whining about what a pain it is to get access to music that I've paid for which would be off-topic

Instead, I'll add that the iRiver iFP-700 that my son has doesn't want to mount for me under Linux at the moment so I don't recommend that one. But the H340 has been good since I got used to having a directory structure instead of a database to find files
 
Old 05-01-2006, 06:28 PM   #17
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I don't know if you'll find that stuff, but Trekstor has a wide variety of USB sticks, storage devices and MP3 players, some of them quite inexpensive but have lots of features. I think they all work on Linux (kernel 2.4 and upwards) and work by drag and drop. Mine is a 512MB device that works very well. Check them out.

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Old 05-01-2006, 11:34 PM   #18
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Second it has the most storage (60G) of anything else I found (I could be wrong, though).

For the record, there are also 60 GB Zens.

Speaking of Zens, as far as I know, the Zen Neeon is a true Drag and Drop MP3 player, since it is in reality just a upgraded version of the Creative MuVo, also a true Drag and Drop player.
 
Old 05-03-2006, 12:32 PM   #19
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Old 05-03-2006, 01:50 PM   #20
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Don't get a Philips GoGear 1630/17. It's a nice player, but from what I have found, it only works with Windows XP. I got one for christmas and I still havn't been able to get the thing working in linux. It seems it NEEDS Windows Media Player for some reason. Prolly paid off by Microsoft to intentionally make it incompatable with other operating systems. The older smaller GoGears I hear do work, but I'm not sure as to which models off the top of my head. I cant mount the thing as USB mass storage or access it in any way. The only thing it does do is show up in dmesg (I think). I'm about to just go get an IPod and get sell this one to somebody who doesn't use linux. I'm about to move to college and will only have my linux box there, so I will be unable to use my other WinXP computer for this. That was honestly about the only reason I had a WinXP computer... just so I could copy files to this thing. Lame. If anybody DOES know how to get this model to work in linux, please contact me!

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Old 05-03-2006, 03:14 PM   #21
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I have a creative Muvo. It is obviuosly not big but it does support the drag and drop feature without any additional software.
 
Old 05-23-2006, 03:05 PM   #22
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I'm looking for a Linux compatible player right now and this thread is quite helpful. I like the TrekStor players, but I can't find a place that sells them in the United States. Right now my leading candidate is the Transcend T.sonic 610 since it explicitly supports Linux, but I'd like to be able to play ogg files as well.

Sounds like I can consider a Creative Muvo as well.
 
Old 05-23-2006, 03:21 PM   #23
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Gudanov: From the system requirements listed, it seems that the Transcend MP3 player is just a generic UMS device. Any generic UMS device will work just as well with Linux.

This is just a guess, but I base it on the fact that Windows 98 is listed as a supported, but a driver is required. This would seem to indicate that there is no (additional)driver need for any of the other OSs. That would be consistent with UMS devices.

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Old 05-23-2006, 03:34 PM   #24
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Sorry, I think I was unclear. I'm sure the Transcend MP3 is okay, it even lists Linux as a supported OS (good for them). I'm just looking for other options to consider.

I'm finding it difficult to decipher if devices are really UMS devices or not from looking over tech specs, and I don't want to get something and discover that I was wrong.

I got burned on a Samsung YP-T7J which says USB Mass Storage Device on the package, but isn't a UMS device. Luckily, I was planning to get a MP3 player for somebody else so the Samsung can go to them. I saw a thread about that device, but alas, the conclusion was that it won't work for Linux even though you can drag and drop music to it in Windows.

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Old 05-28-2006, 08:51 AM   #25
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I just did a bunch of recearch on what mp3 player i should buy; here is what i was looking for
- $200 - $300 price range
- 20gb or more
- plays videos
- nice screen
- works in linux

in the end i bought the latest Ipod video, here's why

it had all my needs, a nice screen video 30gb, and its really nicely designed.
I took a gamble on the linux support though. I reasoned that the Ipod was the most popular mp3 player out there, and therefor linux support would be good. I was right.

All i had to do was update to the latest amarok (1.4) and ipod support was built in. I plugged in the ipod, Suse 10.1 automaticly mounted it, i clicked the connect button on the amarok media device sidebar, and dragged all my music over. Not only did the songs go over but so did all the album art amarok had automaticly looked up for me.

I'm still not sure about video/photo support. I think gtkpod might be able to handle that, ill get back to you on that
 
Old 05-28-2006, 10:20 AM   #26
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just found out that gtkpod will transfer m4v (quicktime) format video onto the ipod, i'm looking for a mpeg/avi converter for linux now...

ps: i think the genre has to be set to "Movie" for it to work.
 
Old 05-30-2006, 09:15 AM   #27
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I decided to get an iAudio U2 which I heard about on this thread. It worked out of the box with no problems. So far I'm pretty happy with it, but I can't attest to sound quality that much since I've been listening to podcasts mostly. Although I think the website said that OGG support would be available in a firmware update, mine supported OGG out without an update so that comment was out of date.

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Old 03-07-2008, 09:29 AM   #28
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Philips Go Gear 4111/37

My daughter and i have a Philips Go Gear 4111/37 and I got it to work finally in my Linux box thanks to gedw's suggestion [see this thread: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...4/#post3074738 ].

After placing the song into its own folder (Artist folder/Album folder/Song) I then copied it over onto the device, then I did: sync /dev/sdb and it worked.

(I knew about how the device was connecting to my system from the command: hwinfo --disk)

As for playlists, that did not work. The device does need MS Windows' Media Player in autosync mode for that and I did not want to set it up that way.
 
Old 03-07-2008, 10:41 PM   #29
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Yeah, I ended up getting an IPod anyway awhile back, which wasn't hard to setup to work under linux. My girlfriend has that old one now, and she uses Windows so it works just fine.
 
Old 03-07-2008, 11:14 PM   #30
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iRiver used to be good, but they seem to have now gotten corrupted by/in bed with Microsoft, and all their newer stuff seems to use the Windows MTP/Media Player interface exclusively. It's such a shame, because design-wise their hardware has been looking really good recently. At least they still support ogg.

The "best" manufacturer does seem to be iAudio. Their stuff supports open formats and is platform-agnostic. Unfortunately, their hardware seems rather clunky to my eyes. I've considered buying an X5, but the top-heavy style and joystick controller just doesn't appeal to me. It's also getting old, and there hasn't been any sign of a new large-capacity device to replace it, only small flash players. As a result, I'm torn about what to choose.

Whatever I finally decide though, it will probably be something that runs Rockbox, the FOSS firmware replacement for media players. Indeed, at the moment I'm leaning towards simply getting an iPod and loading it with Rockbox.
 
  


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