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Old 05-27-2015, 01:50 PM   #1
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ATI Radeon Xpress 200 - Model 1150 Problem with Debian


Dear,

At first I would like to say I just came here in the last case, cause I don't know what more I can try, if I'm posting in the wrong place, please move the post.

Well, my problem is very complicated, I've an old machine (Dell Vostro 1000) where I'm using Debian 8 with XFCE.
This machine have an integrated video card (ATI MOBILITY RADEON XPRESS 200 - Model: 1150), and it doesn't work with Debian default configuration.

Let's see what I already have tried:

- To turn on my laptop without it shows the notorious colored stripes I need use the "nomodeset" code on grub.cfg.
- The Debian 8 appears don't have the xorg.conf (???), I made a Xorg.conf following the instructions at https://wiki.debian.org/AtiHowTo , without success.
- I tried already tried follow the procedures in the page above, cause the current proprietary driver is not compatible with my old video card. and the older version (legacy) can't be installed and shows some conflicts with "X". This way I have to use the generic linux driver.
- I tried set the display resolution using XRANDR, but it fails and when I made the insertion of another resolution, I just can't select this.
- Thinking about modules, maybe I can see a little ligth in the end of tunnel. I find a blacklist file into "/etc/modprobe.d" and removed the module "radeonfb" of blacklist, but when I tried to restart, the machine only shows a black screen with the mouse pointer only. to fix this I changed the "quiet" entry of boot line and changed it with "single" to show the command line and I can see that when the module "radeonfb" is loaded, the letters of command line become small (like it have made a resolution adjustment) but I need understand why only a black screen and the mouse pointer is showed.


Any tip/hint will be appreciated.

Thanks.
 
Old 05-28-2015, 06:14 PM   #2
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I would try to go with opensource drivers, no propertary.
Propertary drivers are intruders into linux. It is always safer (even if can be worst as perforance) and native tested opensource driver.

So, you should purge away every reference of the propertary driver, and do

sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-video-radeon

Then without any xorg.conf (recent xorg versions auto-probe and don't need for xorg.conf) you should be able to boot Xorg



Let us know
 
Old 05-28-2015, 10:03 PM   #3
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Dear _spectrum_, thanks for your attention. The system is only with the "genericg linux driver (OS default) and the "xserver-xorg-video-radeon"
(I think it's "xserver-xorg-video-ati") are installed and updated. But it Doesn't work.

Any idea how I can (at least) change the resolution of my monitor? The 3D acceleration is not important to me.

Thanks in advance.
 
Old 05-29-2015, 07:16 AM   #4
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Hey all!

Some good news here.
I just discovered that when I remove the module "radeonfb" from "devfb-blacklist.conf", the SO only shows the mouse pointer in a black screen (ok, no news until here), but when I made that and boot in safe mode, the resolution is okay.

Now, what I need to uninstall? what is conflicting?
 
Old 05-29-2015, 11:46 AM   #5
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Hi....

Welcome to the forum

Not sure how to answer your question but you might want to use a different username as using your email address will, most likely, get you a boat load of SPAM.

Regards...
 
Old 05-29-2015, 12:39 PM   #6
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Hi....

Welcome to the forum

Not sure how to answer your question but you might want to use a different username as using your email address will, most likely, get you a boat load of SPAM.

Regards...
You are really right. Thanks a lot.
 
Old 05-29-2015, 12:54 PM   #7
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Quote:
Any idea how I can (at least) change the resolution of my monitor?
Code:
harry@antix1:~
$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 600, maximum 4096 x 4096
LVDS1 connected 1024x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 195mm x 113mm
   1024x600      60.00*+
   800x600       60.32    56.25  
   640x480       59.94  
VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
harry@antix1:~
Code:
xrandr -S (resolution you wish to use from available ones in your list from xrandr output)
Hit enter/return key. Screen will go black and come on again.
If you get what you want. Put the

Quote:
xrandr -S (screenxscreen)
like xrandr -S 1024x768 or what ever in your startup file.

In my Icewm Window Manager. I put mine in ~/.icewm/startup
 
Old 05-29-2015, 01:04 PM   #8
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rokytnji View Post
Code:
harry@antix1:~
$ xrandr
Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 1024 x 600, maximum 4096 x 4096
LVDS1 connected 1024x600+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 195mm x 113mm
   1024x600      60.00*+
   800x600       60.32    56.25  
   640x480       59.94  
VGA1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
harry@antix1:~
Code:
xrandr -S (resolution you wish to use from available ones in your list from xrandr output)
Hit enter/return key. Screen will go black and come on again.
If you get what you want. Put the



like xrandr -S 1024x768 or what ever in your startup file.

In my Icewm Window Manager. I put mine in ~/.icewm/startup

Hi there, thanks for your help. but the maximum limit showed is the lower resolution sctrange. Another tip?

Thanks in advance.
 
Old 05-29-2015, 01:28 PM   #9
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Originally Posted by diegoh.vanni@gmail.com View Post
Hi there, thanks for your help. but the maximum limit showed is the lower resolution sctrange. Another tip?

Thanks in advance.
Yep. Move on and read and learn. It is how I am self taught.

https://pkg-xorg.alioth.debian.org/h...se-xrandr.html

Code:
arandr
you can play with also. It will open a gui.

http://xmodulo.com/how-to-find-scree...vironment.html

https://unix.stackexchange.com/quest...n-any-vga-fail

Edit: Just to confuse the issue. But what the hell.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...on-4175529618/

Good luck and Happy Trailz, Rok

Last edited by rokytnji; 05-29-2015 at 01:34 PM.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 12:03 AM   #10
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rokytnji View Post
Yep. Move on and read and learn. It is how I am self taught.

https://pkg-xorg.alioth.debian.org/h...se-xrandr.html

Code:
arandr
you can play with also. It will open a gui.

http://xmodulo.com/how-to-find-scree...vironment.html

https://unix.stackexchange.com/quest...n-any-vga-fail

Edit: Just to confuse the issue. But what the hell.

http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...on-4175529618/

Good luck and Happy Trailz, Rok
Hi dear,

I really tried, but I think the problem is really the Video Card Driver. cause just one resolution is possible.
At this time I'm confusing with Xorg and generic drivers, radeonfb, firmware-linux, the blacklists and the "nomodeset" code...

I think it's imposible to use this video card on linux today

follow some more information:

Code:
# lshw -c video
  *-display UNCLAIMED     
       description: VGA compatible controller
       product: RS482M [Mobility Radeon Xpress 200]
       vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI]
       physical id: 5
       bus info: pci@0000:01:05.0
       version: 00
       width: 32 bits
       clock: 66MHz
       capabilities: pm vga_controller bus_master cap_list
       configuration: latency=66 mingnt=8
       resources: memory:c8000000-cfffffff ioport:9000(size=256) memory:c0100000-c010ffff memory:c0120000-c013ffff
Code:
# xrandr
xrandr: Failed to get size of gamma for output default
Screen 0: minimum 1024 x 768, current 1024 x 768, maximum 1024 x 768
default connected 1024x768+0+0 0mm x 0mm
   1024x768      61.00*
Code:
# dmesg | grep radeon
[    0.000000] Command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=UUID=4aea699e-b5c5-4035-b62a-ed54fcbb80a1 ro initrd=/install/initrd.gz radeon.modeset=0 quiet
[    0.000000] Kernel command line: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.16.0-4-amd64 root=UUID=4aea699e-b5c5-4035-b62a-ed54fcbb80a1 ro initrd=/install/initrd.gz radeon.modeset=0 quiet
[    0.990272] [drm:radeon_init] *ERROR* No UMS support in radeon module!
[    8.548851] [drm:radeon_init] *ERROR* No UMS support in radeon module!
Code:
# lspci | grep 'VGA'
01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc. [AMD/ATI] RS482M [Mobility Radeon Xpress 200]
Code:
# lsmod
Module                  Size  Used by
ctr                    12927  1 
ccm                    17577  1 
nfsd                  263032  2 
auth_rpcgss            51211  1 nfsd
oid_registry           12419  1 auth_rpcgss
nfs_acl                12511  1 nfsd
nfs                   188136  0 
lockd                  83389  2 nfs,nfsd
fscache                45542  1 nfs
sunrpc                237402  6 nfs,nfsd,auth_rpcgss,lockd,nfs_acl
arc4                   12536  2 
b43                   378288  0 
joydev                 17063  0 
bcma                   37206  1 b43
mac80211              474218  1 b43
snd_hda_codec_idt      48816  1 
dell_wmi               12477  0 
snd_hda_codec_generic    63142  2 snd_hda_codec_idt
powernow_k8            25433  0 
cfg80211              405538  2 b43,mac80211
sparse_keymap          12818  1 dell_wmi
snd_hda_intel          26327  4 
dell_laptop            17077  0 
snd_hda_controller     26646  1 snd_hda_intel
kvm_amd                59091  0 
snd_hda_codec         104463  4 snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
kvm                   388635  1 kvm_amd
psmouse                99143  0 
dcdbas                 13313  1 dell_laptop
snd_hwdep              13148  1 snd_hda_codec
rfkill                 18867  3 cfg80211,dell_laptop
snd_pcm                88662  3 snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel,snd_hda_controller
rng_core               12733  1 b43
serio_raw              12849  0 
edac_mce_amd           21166  0 
snd_timer              26614  1 snd_pcm
edac_core              51465  0 
pcspkr                 12595  0 
k8temp                 12538  0 
shpchp                 31121  0 
snd                    65244  15 snd_hwdep,snd_timer,snd_hda_codec_idt,snd_pcm,snd_hda_codec_generic,snd_hda_codec,snd_hda_intel
soundcore              13026  2 snd,snd_hda_codec
sp5100_tco             12864  0 
i2c_piix4              20864  0 
battery                13356  0 
ac                     12715  0 
evdev                  17445  13 
processor              28221  1 powernow_k8
vmhgfs                 65266  0 
vmw_vmci               55383  1 vmhgfs
fuse                   83350  1 
parport_pc             26300  0 
ppdev                  16782  0 
lp                     17074  0 
parport                35749  3 lp,ppdev,parport_pc
autofs4                35529  2 
ext4                  473802  1 
crc16                  12343  1 ext4
mbcache                17171  1 ext4
jbd2                   82413  1 ext4
sg                     29973  0 
sd_mod                 44356  3 
crc_t10dif             12431  1 sd_mod
crct10dif_generic      12581  1 
sr_mod                 21903  0 
crct10dif_common       12356  2 crct10dif_generic,crc_t10dif
cdrom                  47424  1 sr_mod
ata_generic            12490  0 
b44                    39568  0 
sdhci_pci              22097  0 
sdhci                  35153  1 sdhci_pci
libphy                 32268  1 b44
mii                    12675  1 b44
ssb                    61008  2 b43,b44
mmc_core              102374  4 b43,ssb,sdhci,sdhci_pci
pcmcia                 49012  2 b43,ssb
pata_atiixp            12747  0 
pcmcia_core            18392  1 pcmcia
thermal                17559  0 
wmi                    17339  1 dell_wmi
video                  18096  0 
thermal_sys            27642  3 video,thermal,processor
i2c_algo_bit           12751  0 
ttm                    77862  0 
ohci_pci               12808  0 
drm_kms_helper         49210  0 
drm                   249955  2 ttm,drm_kms_helper
ahci                   33291  2 
libahci                27158  1 ahci
libata                177457  4 ahci,libahci,ata_generic,pata_atiixp
ehci_pci               12512  0 
ohci_hcd               42982  1 ohci_pci
ehci_hcd               69837  1 ehci_pci
button                 12944  0 
i2c_core               46012  4 drm,i2c_piix4,drm_kms_helper,i2c_algo_bit
scsi_mod              191405  4 sg,libata,sd_mod,sr_mod
usbcore               195340  4 ohci_hcd,ohci_pci,ehci_hcd,ehci_pci
usb_common             12440  1 usbcore
Code:
MY GRUB (THIS MACHINE IS USING UDEV, NO XORG.CONF)
# If you change this file, run 'update-grub' afterwards to update
# /boot/grub/grub.cfg.
# For full documentation of the options in this file, see:
#   info -f grub -n 'Simple configuration'

GRUB_DEFAULT=0
GRUB_TIMEOUT=5
GRUB_DISTRIBUTOR=`lsb_release -i -s 2> /dev/null || echo Debian`
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT="radeon.modeset=0 quiet"
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX="initrd=/install/initrd.gz"

# Uncomment to enable BadRAM filtering, modify to suit your needs
# This works with Linux (no patch required) and with any kernel that obtains
# the memory map information from GRUB (GNU Mach, kernel of FreeBSD ...)
#GRUB_BADRAM="0x01234567,0xfefefefe,0x89abcdef,0xefefefef"

# Uncomment to disable graphical terminal (grub-pc only)
#GRUB_TERMINAL=console

# The resolution used on graphical terminal
# note that you can use only modes which your graphic card supports via VBE
# you can see them in real GRUB with the command `vbeinfo'
#GRUB_GFXMODE=640x480

# Uncomment if you don't want GRUB to pass "root=UUID=xxx" parameter to Linux
#GRUB_DISABLE_LINUX_UUID=true

# Uncomment to disable generation of recovery mode menu entries
#GRUB_DISABLE_RECOVERY="true"

# Uncomment to get a beep at grub start
#GRUB_INIT_TUNE="480 440 1"
thanks in advance.

Last edited by diegoh.vanni@gmail.com; 05-30-2015 at 12:17 AM. Reason: Add some commands outputs:
 
Old 05-30-2015, 04:57 AM   #11
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Hi,
the card is known to work. The radeonfb blacklisted make me think you had propertary drived installed, and that something is mixed. Also maybe you have some module missing/enabled disturbing the proper working of the card.

Way one, try to clean all better, and use opensource driver:

Quote:
sudo cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf.BAK
sudo apt-get remove --purge fglrx*
remove any fglrx reference, remove any video related blacklist entry ( from/etc/module .. )
sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-radeon
see: http://askubuntu.com/questions/68306...ry-ati-drivers


If the above continue to fail, the other chance is to re-install propertary drivers , open a console (ctrl + alt + f2) and try something like that:

Quote:
sudo service gdm stop
sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-ati
sudo apt-get purge xserver-xorg-video-radeon
sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx (to be downloaded, or sudo dpkg -i fglrx*.deb)
sudo service gdm start
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto/AMD


let us know

Last edited by _spectrum_; 05-30-2015 at 05:01 AM.
 
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Yeah, and in a pinch. I remove sis and savage drivers on my other boxes and run with vesa instead because the new xorg in Debian Testing does not play well with the sis and savage drivers supplied by Debian.

Try spectrums advice and see how it goes.
 
Old 05-30-2015, 11:14 AM   #13
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I found a solution:

- Remove the "radeonfb" module of blacklist (/etc/modeprobe.d/fbdev-blaclist.conf) and make a XORG file without pass the video driver, but passing "BusID":

Code:
Section "Device"
   Identifier    "Configured Video Device"
  #Driver        "radeonfb"
   BusID         "PCI:1:5:0"
   Option        "DRI"            "true"
   Option        "ColorTiling"    "on"
   Option        "EnablePageFlip" "true"
   Option        "AccelMethod"    "EXA"
   Option        "RenderAccel"    "true"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
   Identifier    "Configured Monitor"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
   Identifier    "Default Screen"
   Monitor       "Configured Monitor"
   Device        "Configured Video Device"
   Defaultdepth   24
   SubSection    "Display"
      Modes      "1280x800"
   EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "Module"
   Load "glx"
   Load "dri"
EndSection

Section "DRI"
   Group    "video"
   Mode     0660
EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"
   Option "DontZap"   "false"
EndSection

Section "Extensions"
   Option "Composite" "Enable"
EndSection
Important Notes:
1. To this solution I'm not using FGLRX or FIRMWARE-LINUX installed, I think I don't have any acceleration, but it's sufficient to me now.
2. To boot the sistem, I put "radeon.modeset=0" into grub file (/etc/default/grub.cfg)


Really thanks for your help!
 
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Install firmware-linux-nonfree then you'll get the additional resolutions inthe
"System Settings>>Displays", click on the display you want to adjust.
 
  


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