LinuxQuestions.org
Latest LQ Deal: Latest LQ Deals
Go Back   LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Hardware
User Name
Password
Linux - Hardware This forum is for Hardware issues.
Having trouble installing a piece of hardware? Want to know if that peripheral is compatible with Linux?

Notices


Reply
  Search this Thread
Old 09-03-2004, 07:11 AM   #1
harry_fine
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Toronto
Distribution: Suse 9.1
Posts: 23

Rep: Reputation: Disabled
ATI All In Wonder Pro 3d Acceleration


Hello

In Yast, the graphics card is properly recognized as a Rage 128 RF (r128) . It doesn't want to let me enable 3D acceleration. It says it "The installed card cannot use hardware 3D/OpenGL acceleration." It's strange, cause it used to work fine unde Suse 9.0.

It's an older card, not one of the 9xxx series of ATI, but I used to play Tuxracer and BZFlag, and now I can't.

My XF86Config file modules section looks like this:

Section "Module"
Load "type1"
Load "dbe"
Load "freetype"
Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "v4l"
Load "speedo"
Load "extmod"
EndSection

and the device section like this:

Section "Device"
BoardName "Rage 128 RF"
BusID "1:0:0"
Driver "r128"
Identifier "Device[0]"
VendorName "ATI"
EndSection

and the DRI section like this:

Section "DRI"
Group "video"
Mode 0660
EndSection

Any ideas?

Thanks

Harry
 
Old 09-04-2004, 08:32 AM   #2
320mb
Senior Member
 
Registered: Nov 2002
Location: pikes peak
Distribution: Slackware, LFS
Posts: 2,577

Rep: Reputation: 48
have you tried re-compiling the kernel with support for your card???
 
Old 09-04-2004, 08:43 AM   #3
harry_fine
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Toronto
Distribution: Suse 9.1
Posts: 23

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: Disabled
It recognized my card, and seems to support my card. It's the 3d acceleration that says it's not supported.

Besides, compiling the kernel is not for me. Are you telling me that with that particular card, it won't work without a kernel re-compile, do you know that for a fact, because to suggest to a newcomer something like re-compiling the kernel when you are just grasping at straws, is neither helpful nor responsible.
 
Old 09-04-2004, 01:53 PM   #4
bobwall
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Milpitas, California
Distribution: 1/2 Debian 1/2 my own
Posts: 189

Rep: Reputation: 30
You might be able to manually install the dri/drm drivers which should be a lot less work than recompiling the kernel:

1. Goto http://www.freedesktop.org/~dri/snapshots/
2. Get the latest common and rage128 snapshots, open up a new console as root, and cd into
the directory where you downloaded those files.

3. untar common*.bz2 ("tar -jxf common*.bz2)

4. "cd dripkg"

5. run the installation script: "./install.sh"

6. "cd .."

7. untar rage128 package "tar -jxf rage128*.bz2"

8. "cd dripkg"

9. run installation script: "./install.sh"

10. "cd .."

11. delete the dripkg dir : "rm -rf dripkg"

The installation script makes backup copies of certain files in /usr/X11R6 with the extension .dri.old I think, so if you're paranoid about old files like me me, delete them.
 
Old 09-04-2004, 04:05 PM   #5
harry_fine
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Toronto
Distribution: Suse 9.1
Posts: 23

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: Disabled
Hi

I did exactly as you said. The first install.sh, for the common files was fine and gave no errors, but it aborted near the end of the procedure, and I got this message in the log files after running the second procedure for the Rage specific install script:

Cannot find a kernel config file.

Can you explain to me what this procedure does. I already seem to have dri files, named for the rage driver, in the /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri directory. I have the files:

-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1609469 2004-04-05 22:08 i810_dri.so
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1650542 2004-04-05 22:08 i830_dri.so
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1681314 2004-04-05 22:08 mga_dri.so
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1616715 2004-04-05 22:08 r128_dri.so
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1752563 2004-04-05 22:08 r200_dri.so
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1739613 2004-04-05 22:08 radeon_dri.so
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1632231 2004-04-05 22:08 sis_dri.so
-r--r--r-- 1 root root 1645088 2004-04-05 22:08 tdfx_dri.so

So what is it that you are trying to get me to install that is different than the r128_dri.so file I've already got? And...what is dri?
 
Old 09-04-2004, 04:55 PM   #6
bobwall
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2004
Location: Milpitas, California
Distribution: 1/2 Debian 1/2 my own
Posts: 189

Rep: Reputation: 30
DRI is for Direct Rendering Infrastructure. It is built on top of the drm (direct rendering modules). DRI drivers are basically accelerated OpenGL drivers (i.e. r128_dri.so) which corresponds to OpenGL instalable client drivers (ICDs) on Windows.

DRM modules are more low level drivers that does the actual interfacing with the hardware. The installation script needs to compile the drm module for your specific kernel version.

The problem about the kernel config not being found means that you need to install the MATCHING (first find your what your kernel version is) kernel source code for your kernel. You can do this by getting it from your distribution's install disk (or downloading the kernel sources themselves from www.kernel.org and configuring it).
 
Old 09-04-2004, 05:08 PM   #7
J.W.
LQ Veteran
 
Registered: Mar 2003
Location: Boise, ID
Distribution: Mint
Posts: 6,642

Rep: Reputation: 85
For more info on DRI -- http://dri.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/moin.cgi/

-- J.W.
 
Old 09-05-2004, 08:45 PM   #8
mshahwan
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2004
Distribution: SusE 9.1
Posts: 37

Rep: Reputation: 15
got this problem before.

open yast and search for drm, u will get one entry (unless you are using a personal CD, in that case u gora add suse ftp as installation resource) , install it(drm not installed in standard suse install). then go to system in yast and go to graphics card and monitor and lower ur resolution to 1024 X768( the rage 128 cards don't work well with 3d acceleration at higher resolutions). and then go and enable 3d acceleration from yast. this time it won't say no
 
Old 09-05-2004, 10:16 PM   #9
harry_fine
LQ Newbie
 
Registered: Aug 2004
Location: Toronto
Distribution: Suse 9.1
Posts: 23

Original Poster
Rep: Reputation: Disabled
You were right about DRM, it had not been installed by default, but after I installed it from the installation CD's (professional), and re-booted, it still would not let me change the 3d acceleration from Yast or SaX2. Gives me the same message. Also, resolution was already at 1024 x 768, with 16 bit color. I tried it at 24 bit as well.

Is there anything else you can suggest, any logs for clues, now that the DRM package is installed.
 
Old 01-10-2006, 11:26 AM   #10
mshahwan
Member
 
Registered: Jul 2004
Distribution: SusE 9.1
Posts: 37

Rep: Reputation: 15
is ur card a PCI card by any chance?? If it is you have to add this to the configurations:

Option "ForcePCIMode" "1"
 
Old 01-10-2006, 12:37 PM   #11
stress_junkie
Senior Member
 
Registered: Dec 2005
Location: Massachusetts, USA
Distribution: Ubuntu 10.04 and CentOS 5.5
Posts: 3,873

Rep: Reputation: 335Reputation: 335Reputation: 335Reputation: 335
Go to ati.com, get the drivers, and install them. The drivers that come with SuSE don't allow acceleration. The official ATI drivers will enable OpenGL and hardware acceleration.

As far as the extra All In Wonder features are concerned, they aren't supported by ATI yet. You can use Gatos project drivers for them. They are available at gatos.sourceforge.net

Last edited by stress_junkie; 01-10-2006 at 12:39 PM.
 
  


Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off



Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
3D Acceleration on S3 UniChrome Pro sw67 Linux - Laptop and Netbook 4 01-09-2007 09:11 PM
No 3d Acceleration for ATI 9800 pro on Fedora3 DoctorWho Linux - Hardware 19 09-10-2005 12:59 AM
ati radeon 9800 pro acceleration? Ninwa Linux - Software 5 03-21-2004 04:55 PM
ATI Radeon 9000 Pro 3d acceleration verigoth Linux - Hardware 0 02-06-2003 03:02 PM
3D acceleration in linux with an ATI Rage 128 PRO? leeman_s Linux - General 2 01-25-2003 04:52 PM

LinuxQuestions.org > Forums > Linux Forums > Linux - Hardware

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:46 PM.

Main Menu
Advertisement
My LQ
Write for LQ
LinuxQuestions.org is looking for people interested in writing Editorials, Articles, Reviews, and more. If you'd like to contribute content, let us know.
Main Menu
Syndicate
RSS1  Latest Threads
RSS1  LQ News
Twitter: @linuxquestions
Open Source Consulting | Domain Registration