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Old 04-23-2002, 03:46 AM   #16
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If it helps here is my Graphics and Screen sections in the XF86Config-4 file

# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic VGA"
Driver "vga"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Rage 128"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
Driver "r128"
# VideoRam 32768
# Clock lines


# Uncomment following option if you see a big white block
# instead of the cursor!
# Option "sw_cursor"

Option "UseCCEFor2D" "false"
Option "AGPMode" "1"
Option "DPMS" "on"
EndSection



# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************


Section "Screen"
Identifier "screen1"
Device "ATI Rage 128"
Monitor "Dell D1028L"
DefaultColorDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x400"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection
 
Old 04-23-2002, 06:35 PM   #17
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You may be right about having different monitors. Both my Samsung Syncmaster monitors blank out when testing X during configuration or "startx" after editing /etc/X11/Xfconfig-4 file. I unhooked the puter in my bedroom that I'm trying to get Mandrake 8.2 running on and took it to the cellar where my old Dell system with a 17" Dell Trinitron monitor sits- hooked it up- booted into X and KDE without a problem. All the time I've been screwing around thinking it was the video card > it turns out for some reason Mandrake doesn't want to cooperate with my Samsung Monitors.
Now that I've figured that out: is there a way to edit the configuration file to solve this problem?
Thank's- Tuzinor

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Old 04-24-2002, 02:06 PM   #18
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Hi,

Glad you have made some progress.
I am also given to believe that you can set your resolution as desired and then exit from X by saying NO to test.

It appears to then work. I have sort of tested this theory and it does seem to work
Give it a go and see how you get on.

Cheers
 
Old 04-24-2002, 05:57 PM   #19
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I now realize this problem is a combination of the ATI AGP cards/the Xfree drivers and the Samsung monitors. The monitor is detected. I have the horizontal and vertical rates entered.I did have Mandrake running without a problem on an older machine with a 4mb Matrox millenium card and the Samsung monitor.I'm currently running Windows at 800x600 > 37.9kHz/60Hz PP.
I've added specific modeline parameters for 1280x1024,1024x768,& 800x600 in the monitor section of the XFConfig-4 file. I used the info from the XFConfig file. No luck. I've tried commenting out DPMS in both the Monitor & Device sections-and tried other changes- again- no luck.
 
Old 04-24-2002, 06:24 PM   #20
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Have a look here there is some detailed info that might help.

http://www.xfree86.org/current/

Also I am not sure that you need modelines anymore (though I am not sure)

Here is my full XF86Config-4 file if it helps:

# File generated by XFdrake.

# **********************************************************************
# Refer to the XF86Config(4/5) man page for details about the format of
# this file.
# **********************************************************************

Section "Files"

RgbPath "/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb"

# Multiple FontPath entries are allowed (they are concatenated together)
# By default, Mandrake 6.0 and later now use a font server independent of
# the X server to render fonts.

FontPath "unix/:-1"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Server flags section.
# **********************************************************************

Section "ServerFlags"

# Uncomment this to cause a core dump at the spot where a signal is
# received. This may leave the console in an unusable state, but may
# provide a better stack trace in the core dump to aid in debugging
#NoTrapSignals

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><BS> server abort sequence
# This allows clients to receive this key event.
#DontZap

# Uncomment this to disable the <Crtl><Alt><KP_+>/<KP_-> mode switching
# sequences. This allows clients to receive these key events.
#DontZoom

# This allows the server to start up even if the
# mouse device can't be opened/initialised.
AllowMouseOpenFail

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Input devices
# **********************************************************************

# **********************************************************************
# Keyboard section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "Keyboard"
Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30"

Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "gb"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Pointer section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Keyboard1"
Driver "Keyboard"
Option "AutoRepeat" "250 30"

Option "XkbRules" "xfree86"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "gb"

EndSection

# **********************************************************************
# Pointer section
# **********************************************************************

Section "InputDevice"

Identifier "Mouse1"
Driver "mouse"
Option "Protocol" "PS/2"
Option "Device" "/dev/mouse"
Option "Emulate3Buttons"
Option "Emulate3Timeout" "50"

# ChordMiddle is an option for some 3-button Logitech mice

# Option "ChordMiddle"

EndSection



Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.
Load "dbe"

Load "glx"
Load "dri"


# This loads the miscellaneous extensions module, and disables
# initialisation of the XFree86-DGA extension within that module.

SubSection "extmod"
#Option "omit xfree86-dga"
EndSubSection

# This loads the Type1 and FreeType font modules

Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
EndSection


Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection


# **********************************************************************
# Monitor section
# **********************************************************************

# Any number of monitor sections may be present

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "Dell D1028L"
VendorName "Dell"
ModelName "Unknown"


# HorizSync is in kHz unless units are specified.
# HorizSync may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
HorizSync 30-69


# VertRefresh is in Hz unless units are specified.
# VertRefresh may be a comma separated list of discrete values, or a
# comma separated list of ranges of values.
# NOTE: THE VALUES HERE ARE EXAMPLES ONLY. REFER TO YOUR MONITOR'S
# USER MANUAL FOR THE CORRECT NUMBERS.
VertRefresh 48-120


# This is a set of extended mode timings typically used for laptop,
# TV fullscreen mode or DVD fullscreen output.
# These are available along with standard mode timings.

# Sony Vaio C1(X,XS,VE,VN)?
# 1024x480 @ 85.6 Hz, 48 kHz hsync
ModeLine "1024x480" 65.00 1024 1032 1176 1344 480 488 494 563 -hsync -vs
ync

# 768x576 @ 79 Hz, 50 kHz hsync
ModeLine "768x576" 50.00 768 832 846 1000 576 590 595 630
# 768x576 @ 100 Hz, 61.6 kHz hsync
ModeLine "768x576" 63.07 768 800 960 1024 576 578 590 616


EndSection



# **********************************************************************
# Graphics device section
# **********************************************************************

Section "Device"
Identifier "Generic VGA"
Driver "vga"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Rage 128"
VendorName "Unknown"
BoardName "Unknown"
Driver "r128"
# VideoRam 32768
# Clock lines


# Uncomment following option if you see a big white block
# instead of the cursor!
# Option "sw_cursor"

Option "UseCCEFor2D" "false"
Option "AGPMode" "4"
Option "DPMS" "on"
EndSection



# **********************************************************************
# Screen sections
# **********************************************************************


Section "Screen"
Identifier "screen1"
Device "ATI Rage 128"
Monitor "Dell D1028L"
DefaultColorDepth 24
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1280x1024" "1152x864" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
ViewPort 0 0
EndSubsection
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "layout1"
Screen "screen1"

InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"

InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

Here are some links I looked at when I was investigating my Problem. Hope it helps.

http://www.au.linuxvideo.org/lists/l.../msg00236.html
http://two.ucdavis.edu/~holland/unix/xpert2000.html
http://www.yk.rim.or.jp/~ishikawa/how-to-change-X.html
http://www.xfree86.org/current/
http://groups.google.com/groups?q=Id...cu.edu&rnum=12
http://www.ibiblio.org/pub/Linux/doc...are-HOWTO.html

http://wwwinfo.cern.ch/pdp/as/linux/...re/rage128pro/
http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/RageAHolic/88.html
http://www.linuxnewbie.org/nhf/intel...i_rage128.html
http://www.xfree86.org/pipermail/new...ay/007856.html
 
Old 04-24-2002, 07:09 PM   #21
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Updated post info- all pertinent info in one post- Hopefully!
mosaddique: Thank's for the links.
Mandrake 8.2 ATI AIW 128 Pro 32mb 4x AGP Card/Monitor Problem:
Samsung Syncmaster 955DF 19" monitor
Using r128 driver.
No matter what I do I the monitor goes into Standby mode after configuring X and "startx".
I do have an ATI Radeon 32mb AIW AGP card running on a Samsung Syncmaster 950p 19" monitor. Only problem is "out of sync range" messages when I shutdown from Mandrake.
I did have Mandrake running on an older computer with a PCI Matrox Millenium 4mb video card on the Samsung monitor without a problem. I have come to realize that this problem revolves around the ATI cards,the XFree86 r128 driver and the Samsung Monitors.I have tried editing the XFconfig-4 file several times.I have the correct specs for the monitor and have even added specific ModeLine info into the configuration file.No luck so far. Below is the pertinent info for the monitor and from the configuration file.HELP!
955DF Monitor Info:

CRT Tube DynaFlat™ IFT
Size 19" diagonal
Viewable Image Size 18.0"
Dot Pitch 0.20mm (Horizontal)
Surface Treatment Smart III™ Treatment (Anti-Static & Anti-Glare)
Deflection 90
CRT Type Indefinitely Flat INVAR Shadow Mask
Pixel Frequency Maximum 135 MHz
Scanning
Frequency
Auto Scanning Horizontal 30-85 KHz
Vertical 50-160 Hz
Compatibility Recommended Mode 1280 x 1024 / 75Hz
Supportable Refresh Rate Max 1600 x 1200 / 68Hz
VESA 1600 x 1200 / 65Hz
1280 x 1024 / 60, 70, 75, 80Hz
(80Hz max)
1024 x 768 / 87i, 60, 70, 75, 85Hz
800 x 600 / 56, 60, 72, 75, 85Hz
640 x 480 / 72, 75, 85Hz
XFConfig-4 Info:
Section "Module"

# This loads the DBE extension module.
Load "dbe"

Load "glx"
Load "dri"
Load "drm"
SubSection "extmod"
#Option "omit xfree86-dga"
EndSubSection
Load "type1"
Load "freetype"
Section "DRI"
Mode 0666
EndSection
Section "Monitor"
Identifier "monitor1"
VendorName "SAM"
ModelName "S/M 955df"
# Option "DPMS"
ModeLine "800x600" 40.00 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync
# 800x600, 60.0Hz; hfreq=37.879002, vfreq=60.317001
ModeLine "1024x768" 78.75 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync
ModeLine "1280x1024" 135.00 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync
HorizSync 30-85
VertRefresh 50-160
Section "Device"
Identifier "ATI Rage 128"
VendorName "ATI"
BoardName "ATI Rage 128 Pro"
Driver "r128"
VideoRam 32768
Chipset "ATI Rage 128 Pro PF (AGP)
ChipID 0x5046
BusID "PCI:01:0:0"
# Clock lines


# Uncomment following option if you see a big white block
# instead of the cursor!
# Option "sw_cursor"
# Option "noaccel"
Option "UseCCEFor2D"
Option "AGPMode" "1"
# Option "DPMS" "on"
EndSection
ection "Screen"
Identifier "screen1"
Device "ATI Rage 128"
Monitor "monitor1"
DefaultColorDepth 16
Subsection "Display"
Depth 8
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
ViewPort 0 0
# Virtual 800 600
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 15
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
ViewPort 0 0
# Virtual 800 600
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 16
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
ViewPort 0 0
# Virtual 800 600
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 24
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
ViewPort 0 0
# Virtual 800 600
EndSubsection
Subsection "Display"
Depth 32
Modes "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600"
ViewPort 0 0
# Virtual 800 600
EndSubsection
EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "layout1"
Screen "screen1"

InputDevice "Mouse1" "CorePointer"

InputDevice "Keyboard1" "CoreKeyboard"
EndSection

I look at the XFree log file for error messages- the only one that's always there is the "no DFP detected" for Flat panel setups.
I've tried commenting out DPMS from both the monitor and device sections. There must be a way to make this work. I'm hoping with the info provided the some Linux Guru has a solution for me- thank's.
 
Old 04-24-2002, 08:01 PM   #22
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Seeing as your ATI AIW is the same as mine but monitor is different, I suggest you copy my bits edit in you monitor information and try it.

I did notice that in your version you have got AGPMode set to Option "AGPMode" "1". This is a default used by X.

You can change this to either 2 or 4 depending on whether your motherboard supports 2x or 4x agp. I suggest you do this after you have got it working at single speed.

Also in my case "UseCCEFor2D" is set to false you don't appear to have a value there. I don't know what the default is. If default is true then that will effectively disable 2D hardware accelaeration. I suggest you set it to false.

Finally if you are going to use modelines then you need an entry that looks like

UseModes "modesection-id"

then you have to specify a Modes Section similar to a Monitor Section.

For more detail on this see
http://www.xfree86.org/current/XF86Config.5.html
 
Old 04-24-2002, 09:22 PM   #23
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mosaddique: thank's for the info- will let you know how I make out- Tuzinor

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Old 04-25-2002, 08:23 AM   #24
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Did what you said before I went to bed last nite- still no luck- Arrrgh! Is there a way to log the "startx" messages to a text file. I looked at the Xfree log file and didn't find any error messages.
Still determined- Tuzinor
 
Old 04-25-2002, 06:32 PM   #25
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Tuzinor,

I am sorry but I have run out of ideas now. You could do more research on the links I sent you and try out some different combinations.



I hope that somebody else can pick this up and try where I failed.
I hope you succeed.
 
Old 04-25-2002, 06:50 PM   #26
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I appreciate your help. This is really starting to aggravate me! I had FreeBSD 4.5 with XFree86 4.20 running on the same machine > have been comparing configuration files. Why FreeBSd works and Linux doesn't is beyond me. This has been a learning experience reading the config and log files. I think at this point I'm going to reformat the partition and take the puter to the cellar and hook it up to the 17" Dell Ultrascan monitor and reinstall > get everything up and running and THEN move it back upstairs and hook it back up to the Samsung Monitor and see what happens- will let you know how I make out- thank's for your efforts- Tuzinor
 
Old 09-30-2002, 12:50 PM   #27
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Angry Problems with All In Wonder 128 AGP 32MB + TV Tuner

i'm using All In Wonder 128 AGP 32MB + TV Tuner with RedHat 7.3... 1280*1024 working great.... but if i open a movie file, the system frozes and i have to reboot manually... i also dont have any TV functions... any drivers discovered?
 
  


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