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linuxmigrant 06-19-2017 11:31 PM

Apple hardware good as a Linux box, or better off with something else?
 
I have a 2009 Mac Pro with dual Xeons. While I know that this machine will *run* linux, I can't tell whether it's the best choice for the job.

My concern has to do with hardware which may have MacOS-specific hardware bits that may make the machine less good for linux than another, non-apple computer with the same CPU.

Put another way, are intel computers which are not Macs better choices for Linux?

Thank you!

Laserbeak 06-20-2017 02:15 AM

Modern Macs are almost identical to PC hardware, they just run EFI (though can emulate BIOS) and have an SMC chip to monitor the system, run the fans, etc.

There would be absolutely no reason to throw away a perfectly good Mac Pro (and the old ones are quite solidly built, more so than any PC I've seen) and buy generic PC hardware to run Linux. You can even run Solaris on it, I'm running Solaris on my Mac Pro 2008.

serafean 06-20-2017 05:29 AM

I'd even go as far as saying that macbooks might be a bit easier to run linux on, because the hardware is the same across the entire line, which simplifies debugging.
You might lose a bit in power efficiency though.

DavidMcCann 06-20-2017 11:24 AM

A quick search revealed a business user who put Red Hat on the model that you have and had no problems. Some seem to have had problems with the video, but if you have the model with the Radeon 2600, that's supported nowadays.

Laserbeak 06-20-2017 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by serafean (Post 5724727)
I'd even go as far as saying that macbooks might be a bit easier to run linux on, because the hardware is the same across the entire line, which simplifies debugging.
You might lose a bit in power efficiency though.

He's talking about a Mac Pro, not a MacBook Pro:

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So power really isn't a concern, this thing is a beast anyway!

(Can you not post images to this site?)

Laserbeak 06-20-2017 03:33 PM

As an aside, I'm boycotting purchasing any more new model Mac Pros until they redesign them to include slots, I'd rather buy used older model ones. The last redesign eliminated the slots, Apple said the ThunderBolt connections would be sufficient, but that's a load of B.S.! Why would you pay the money they ask for a desktop computer with no PCIe (or any other) slots?

AwesomeMachine 07-01-2017 09:36 PM

Apple recently had 2 different processor platforms, PPC and Intel. Both platforms work well with Linux, at least with Debian.

Timothy Miller 07-02-2017 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by AwesomeMachine (Post 5729635)
Apple recently had 2 different processor platforms, PPC and Intel. Both platforms work well with Linux, at least with Debian.

I'd hardly call it recently. The last PowerPC apples were produced in 2006. 11 years ago. That's an ETERNITY for technology.

JJJCR 07-03-2017 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by linuxmigrant (Post 5724658)
I have a 2009 Mac Pro with dual Xeons. While I know that this machine will *run* linux, I can't tell whether it's the best choice for the job.

My concern has to do with hardware which may have MacOS-specific hardware bits that may make the machine less good for linux than another, non-apple computer with the same CPU.

Put another way, are intel computers which are not Macs better choices for Linux?

Thank you!

I think it should be okay, and your hardware chipsets should be supported by Linux.

But you need to backed up everything and make sure you can revert back to MAC if things go south. But I think it will work fine on Linux system.

Laserbeak 07-03-2017 04:53 AM

It's basically an off-the-shelf x86_64 computer. It may have a few extra things that allow it to run Mac OS without it being hacked, but those don't interfere with it running any other x86_64 operating system. It runs Windows fine, it runs Solaris fine, and it runs Linux fine.


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