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05-14-2006, 02:18 AM
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Registered: May 2005
Distribution: Ubuntu 6.06
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annoying sound in 100GB TOSHIBA MK1031GAS HDD
I have this really annoying sound coming from the hdd. hard to describe... kinda buzzing, high frequency low volume... like buzzing or something. gives me headache after an hour or so. I saw a post that recommended muting all sound options, but that didn't work.
This happens all the time in zenwalk (based on slackware). in ubuntu, happens from time to time. in windows, never happens.
Weirdly, sound stops when, for example, I scroll up and down in firefox. maybe hard cpu usage stops the sound? but ????
This is the hard disk: 100GB TOSHIBA MK1031GAS HDD
Laptop: hp pavilion zv5120us
Video Card: Ati radeon Mobility 9100
Any help truly appreciated, or I will need plenty of painkillers...
Outputs:
Code:
# cat /proc/ide/hda/cache
0
# cat /proc/ide/hda/capacity
195371568
# cat /proc/ide/hda/driver
ide-disk version 1.18
# cat /proc/ide/hda/geometry
physical 16383/16/63
logical 16383/255/63
]# cat /proc/ide/hda/settings
name value min max mode
---- ----- --- --- ----
acoustic 0 0 254 rw
address 1 0 2 rw
bios_cyl 16383 0 65535 rw
bios_head 255 0 255 rw
bios_sect 63 0 63 rw
bswap 0 0 1 r
current_speed 69 0 70 rw
failures 0 0 65535 rw
init_speed 69 0 70 rw
io_32bit 0 0 3 rw
keepsettings 0 0 1 rw
lun 0 0 7 rw
max_failures 1 0 65535 rw
multcount 16 0 16 rw
nice1 1 0 1 rw
nowerr 0 0 1 rw
number 0 0 3 rw
pio_mode write-only 0 255 w
unmaskirq 0 0 1 rw
using_dma 1 0 1 rw
wcache 1 0 1 rw
]# lsmod
Module Size Used by
ppp_deflate 2560 0
bsd_comp 3584 0
xt_limit 1024 8
ipt_LOG 4096 8
ipt_MASQUERADE 1152 0
ipt_TOS 1024 0
ipt_REJECT 2432 1
ip_conntrack_irc 2800 0
ppp_async 4992 1
crc_ccitt 1152 1 ppp_async
thermal 6920 0
processor 11584 1 thermal
radeon 86176 1
drm 40852 2 radeon
snd_seq_oss 18688 0
snd_seq_midi_event 3072 1 snd_seq_oss
snd_seq 28112 4 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq_midi_event
snd_seq_device 3596 2 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq
snd_pcm_oss 31264 0
snd_mixer_oss 10240 3 snd_pcm_oss
xt_tcpudp 1792 14
iptable_mangle 1024 0
ip_conntrack_ftp 3440 0
xt_state 768 6
iptable_nat 3588 0
ip_nat 8108 2 ipt_MASQUERADE,iptable_nat
ip_conntrack 25388 6 ipt_MASQUERADE,ip_conntrack_irc,ip_conntrack_ftp,xt_state,iptable_nat,ip_nat
iptable_filter 1024 1
ip_tables 7384 3 iptable_mangle,iptable_nat,iptable_filter
x_tables 4996 9 xt_limit,ipt_LOG,ipt_MASQUERADE,ipt_TOS,ipt_REJECT,xt_tcpudp,xt_state,iptable_nat,ip_tables
nls_iso8859_1 3072 1
vfat 6656 1
fat 29724 1 vfat
fan 1796 0
button 2960 0
battery 5380 0
ac 1924 0
pcmcia 17684 0
8139cp 10624 0
ehci_hcd 18696 0
yenta_socket 14092 2
rsrc_nonstatic 5376 1 yenta_socket
pcmcia_core 19728 3 pcmcia,yenta_socket,rsrc_nonstatic
8139too 13056 0
mii 2688 2 8139cp,8139too
joydev 5312 0
evdev 4864 0
tsdev 3392 0
snd_atiixp_modem 5896 5
snd_atiixp 7820 2
snd_ac97_codec 60448 2 snd_atiixp_modem,snd_atiixp
snd_ac97_bus 1024 1 snd_ac97_codec
snd_pcm 46344 6 snd_pcm_oss,snd_atiixp_modem,snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec
snd_timer 12164 2 snd_seq,snd_pcm
snd 26340 18 snd_seq_oss,snd_seq,snd_seq_device,snd_pcm_oss,snd_mixer_oss,snd_atiixp_modem,snd_atiixp,snd_ac97_codec,snd_pcm,snd_timer
soundcore 3552 3 snd
snd_page_alloc 4616 3 snd_atiixp_modem,snd_atiixp,snd_pcm
ati_agp 3596 1
agpgart 15664 2 drm,ati_agp
ohci_hcd 12420 0
# hdparm /dev/hda
/dev/hda:
multcount = 16 (on)
IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit)
unmaskirq = 0 (off)
using_dma = 1 (on)
keepsettings = 0 (off)
readonly = 0 (off)
readahead = 256 (on)
geometry = 16383/255/63, sectors = 195371568, start = 0
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05-14-2006, 10:03 PM
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Registered: Oct 2003
Location: Texas (central)
Distribution: ubuntu,Slackware,knoppix
Posts: 323
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Is it really the hard disk you hear? Or is it the cpu being picked up by the speakers?
If it is the hard disk. Try running the SMART utilities to make sure you don't have a real problem.
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05-14-2006, 11:04 PM
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Member
Registered: May 2005
Distribution: Ubuntu 6.06
Posts: 129
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thanks for the reply
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerre Cope
Is it really the hard disk you hear? Or is it the cpu being picked up by the speakers?
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I'm pretty sure. The sound comes from where the hdd is located in the laptop. the cpu and the fans are on the other corner and the speakers (in front of the laptop) don't make any sound.
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Originally Posted by Jerre Cope
If it is the hard disk. Try running the SMART utilities to make sure you don't have a real problem.
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smart? I'll look into that -seems to be in the ubuntu repos-. thanks for the suggestion.
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05-14-2006, 11:28 PM
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Registered: May 2005
Distribution: Ubuntu 6.06
Posts: 129
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smart says everything is ok -selftest and error- (thank god for gentoo documentatiosn). where to go next? can this be related to acpi, even though the sound isn't coming from cpu not fan? and, again, weirdly, this sound is mostly absent in ubuntu, but always there in zenwalk...
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05-14-2006, 11:32 PM
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Registered: May 2005
Distribution: Ubuntu 6.06
Posts: 129
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smartctl -A /dev/hda gives these, are they relevant/important?
Code:
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Attributes Data Structure revision number: 16
Vendor Specific SMART Attributes with Thresholds:
ID# ATTRIBUTE_NAME FLAG VALUE WORST THRESH TYPE UPDATED WHEN_FAILED RAW_VALUE
1 Raw_Read_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0
2 Throughput_Performance 0x0005 100 100 050 Pre-fail Offline - 0
3 Spin_Up_Time 0x0027 100 100 001 Pre-fail Always - 1181
4 Start_Stop_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 407
5 Reallocated_Sector_Ct 0x0033 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0
7 Seek_Error_Rate 0x000b 100 100 050 Pre-fail Always - 0
8 Seek_Time_Performance 0x0005 100 100 050 Pre-fail Offline - 0
9 Power_On_Hours 0x0032 096 096 000 Old_age Always - 1742
10 Spin_Retry_Count 0x0033 108 100 030 Pre-fail Always - 0
12 Power_Cycle_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 401
192 Power-Off_Retract_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 8
193 Load_Cycle_Count 0x0032 099 099 000 Old_age Always - 17544
194 Temperature_Celsius 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 35 (Lifetime Min/Max 15/48)
196 Reallocated_Event_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
197 Current_Pending_Sector 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
198 Offline_Uncorrectable 0x0030 100 100 000 Old_age Offline - 0
199 UDMA_CRC_Error_Count 0x0032 200 200 000 Old_age Always - 0
220 Disk_Shift 0x0002 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 120
222 Loaded_Hours 0x0032 097 097 000 Old_age Always - 1411
223 Load_Retry_Count 0x0032 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
224 Load_Friction 0x0022 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 0
226 Load-in_Time 0x0026 100 100 000 Old_age Always - 313
240 Head_Flying_Hours 0x0001 100 100 001 Pre-fail Offline - 0
smartctl -l selftest /dev/hda gave this
Code:
=== START OF READ SMART DATA SECTION ===
SMART Self-test log structure revision number 1
Num Test_Description Status Remaining LifeTime(hours) LBA_of_first_error
# 1 Short offline Completed without error 00% 1742 -
# 2 Short offline Completed without error 00% 0 -
Last edited by towsonu2003; 05-14-2006 at 11:34 PM.
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05-14-2006, 11:53 PM
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Location: Texas (central)
Distribution: ubuntu,Slackware,knoppix
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Well at least your hard drive is safe.
Zenwalk, looks kinda like Slax.
I'm still sticking with my cpu theory as that's the only high frequency oscillation I've ever heard from a PC. Sometimes when the right screen saver is on or some other process is driving the cpu hard.
Also I think your acpi theory is sensible. Maybe the acpi is doing weird things to the cooling fans.
All I can think of to try next to to compare the process tables between the various linux.
Also, is one of the differences in sound on whether you're running from the hard drive or running from the CDROM. When running off the CDROM are you using a swap file on the hard disk?
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05-15-2006, 12:08 AM
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Registered: May 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerre Cope
Well at least your hard drive is safe.
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good to know, believe me
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerre Cope
Zenwalk, looks kinda like Slax.
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it's pretty much Slackware + kernel 2.6 + a few tools and scripts to ease configurations.
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Originally Posted by Jerre Cope
I'm still sticking with my cpu theory as that's the only high frequency oscillation I've ever heard from a PC. Sometimes when the right screen saver is on or some other process is driving the cpu hard.
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should I do anything about that (in a laptop, it's hard to change cables etc) or is it okay (except the headache)?
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Originally Posted by Jerre Cope
Also I think your acpi theory is sensible. Maybe the acpi is doing weird things to the cooling fans.
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I'll try that when I boot to Zenwalk again (and learn how to append parameters in lilo.conf)
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerre Cope
All I can think of to try next to to compare the process tables between the various linux.
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they were pretty much the same (I was comparing them to see if zenwalk launches less program, but it doesn't). where should I look (or, what should I look for)?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jerre Cope
Also, is one of the differences in sound on whether you're running from the hard drive or running from the CDROM. When running off the CDROM are you using a swap file on the hard disk?
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if by running from cdrom you mean a livecd, zenwalk is installed to my harddrive. if you mean if I insert a CD, no swap is used. if you meant livecd, no livecds I tried so far used swap (1 GB RAM seems to be enough for now).
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05-15-2006, 12:26 AM
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Location: Texas (central)
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Sorry. I incorrectly assumed Zenwalk was a Live CD. I'm out of gas. I'm not up on taking apart laptops. If it were a desktop, I'd open it up and listen and look for hot chips or other components.
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